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Seeing your response, you seem to actually be projecting. Read it again maybe this time you'll understand before jumping to a reply.
Mate those "extremists" are people protesting for a reduction of price for wheat and electricity and pakistani are shooting them like dogs in the street. No media aint gonna cover this or anyother human right abuse in Pak occupied kashmir. If this was india global media along with many in this forum would have been blasting indians for this.Thats the selective bias he wanted to show not some religious stuff 😅.Most of you guys will talk all day about secularism and will favor pakistan for "certain reasons" and Erdogan will go to the UN and preach on us while his piehole will remain shut on the same issues in Balochistan or POK.
 
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You are all for what? People getting shot? I think you know this is provocative.
How is it provocative? According to the narrative if it aint indians shooting kashmiris then there is no problem to anyone. Pakistan is the champ of kashmiri human rights in UN but when kashmiris asked for some basic deeds they got George floyd treatment and if anyone saw it as being provocative then it is up to you.
 

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Our beloved neighbors to the west recently announced that there economy has been now 374 billion dollars from 340 billion last year. A growth of unprecedented 10%. IMF had projected 1% growth.
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People used to shit on Bangladesh for fudging economic numbers but their growth rate is always near the ball park of IMF and other estimates.
 

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Hope the coast guard get some footage of this British retard getting cooked.Then these right wing British idiots will know that Britania cant even rule a pothole.
 
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Rahul Gandhi's Unexpected Crawl Back to Partial Success

Following the recent parliamentary elections, there is a narrative that the Congress Party has triumphed and that Rahul Gandhi is a prime minister in waiting. However, with 99 seats compared to the BJP's 240, this is far from true. While the opposition alliance has gained ground and come back to life, the Congress Party and Rahul Gandhi have a long way to go. Yet the party's resources have projected him as successful, although other INDI Alliance leaders like Mamata Banerjee are unhappy about it. Nevertheless, some credit is due to Rahul Gandhi.

Did Rahul Gandhi win anything?

Not significantly, except for reclaiming his family's seat in Uttar Pradesh, which he had previously lost. He collaborated with other leftist parties, securing 6 out of 80 seats. The real winner in Uttar Pradesh is SP's Akhilesh Yadav, who captured 37 seats compared to BJP's 33. This success was driven by the combined votes of Muslims and OBCs. Muslims traditionally do not vote for BJP, and OBCs were persuaded that a BJP majority would threaten their constitutional reservations. This SP narrative resonated with the OBC voters, better.

What happened elsewhere?

Many parties opposing BJP are family enterprises. The Congress Party is a Nehru family enterprise; SP in Uttar Pradesh is led by the Mulayam Singh family; RJD in Bihar is controlled by the Lalu Yadav family; DMK in Tamil Nadu is managed by the Karunanidhi family; and Shiv Sena in Maharashtra (before the split) is a Thackeray family enterprise.

These parties hold significant influence over local voters, addressing issues like inflation and youth unemployment—problems that are not easily solved without attracting substantial business investments (the BJP's platform). Rahul Gandhi's promise of INR 100,000 annually to women also played a significant role.

BJP remained confident that their focus on industrial development, infrastructure, and Modi's popularity would attract voters. However, the election results indicate this strategy had limited success.

Where did BJP succeed?

BJP swept a full house in Madhya Pradesh and Himachal Pradesh. In Andhra Pradesh, Odisha, Chhattisgarh, Gujarat, Delhi, and other regions, they won close to the whole house. However, they did not perform well in Tamil Nadu, Kerala, and West Bengal. Overall, they succeeded in 240 seats. Their major loss was in Uttar Pradesh, where successful misinformation campaigns cost them ground.

What should we expect next?

There is a distinct possibility that the NDA alliance, which includes BJP and other parties, might face internal conflicts, potentially leading to some partners leaving the alliance. This could threaten the stability of the Modi government. However, this scenario is unlikely. On the other hand, the Congress Party's alliance is a loosely-knit group of diverse, dynastic parties with differing objectives, united primarily to oust BJP. This scenario is more likely to happen, ensuring the survival of the Modi government, though BJP’s economic agenda may suffer due to a lack of a strong majority. Alternatively, unhappy Congress Party allies may opt out of the INDI Alliance and send feelers to join the NDA. That possibility is more likely to happen than not.

In short Rahul Gandhi’s unexpected crawl back to power as leader of the opposition is highly appreciated but how long can he keep the diverse alliance together in an unknown factor.
 

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Well the events happening are sure gonna have repercussions on our foreign policy regarding our neighbourhood. I can totally see a siege mentality popping up in Government circles.
 

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We never learn do we. If our "neighbours" wants to hate us we should make it free for them to do so not pay them money for that.

These things can only be judged in hindsight. There are always moves going on in Maldives politics for India to play the longer game always, its a tiny country.

The problem with Maldives was its autocratic govt for longest period of time and now with democracy in some operation, India has to long term make sure being pro-India is a bipartisan thing as far as possible....that was not required with say Gayoom "all in".

For that India needs to keep growing and playing its long term game well without getting too swept up by cheapshot theatrics.

Let us see the developments, and wait for a full tenure to judge upon.

 

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Interesting talk. General seems to be assuming PLA rocket force's weapons may or may not work.
 

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Interesting talk. General seems to be assuming PLA rocket force's weapons may or may not work.

Not as some totality either way.

But some % will be failed launches (or failure somewhere after launch) if push comes to shove.... significant part of the strategic rocket carriers were manufactured in the 80s and 90s and 00s when Chinese military budget was much smaller (and intense pressing needs competing in non-rocket bulk of military RnD and production).

The tooling, machining of multiple crucial parts needing to work together....and what China had access to here during this period and how that is analysed by other countries intel and analysis at their tiers. i.e its above our paygrade to know the % estimate as to how each major country top domain evaluates others with info they have.

The less chance gauged for nuclear warfare or strategic rocket during this ramping up by China (of its military vis a vis growing economy to do it)....compared to likelihood of conventional/limited warfare also restricts the finance for the former i.e prioritization element (from likelihoods and what you gauge you are most behind on defence wise) during the ramping.

It would affect final E(X), which is probably stochastic modelled by say RAND et al. for say (especially) China and Russia to degree they can do.

This impacts strategic contours between the countries (in whatever prevailing tier of conflict they have ongoing).

One guy I know that works in something like a RAND affiliate, told me basically Russia is saddled by its decades low budgeting to its strategic forces and it has impacted its deterrence (along with overall tier adjudged to the Delta SSBNs etc).... compared to say 80s USSR. It all came out into discussion much more ever since the RUS/UKR war started as you can imagine.

Its kind of reverse of China (Russia de-ramped, and China ramped)....but same ramping pressure (with tooling, machining and capital production inertias)... to consider on the systems in deployment and impact of what your and others understanding is, given the saturations needed to overcome BMD that are critical in that domain....with or without a larger MAD deterrent.
 

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Not as some totality either way.

But some % will be failed launches (or failure somewhere after launch) if push comes to shove.... significant part of the strategic rocket carriers were manufactured in the 80s and 90s and 00s when Chinese military budget was much smaller (and intense pressing needs competing in non-rocket bulk of military RnD and production).

The tooling, machining of multiple crucial parts needing to work together....and what China had access to here during this period and how that is analysed by other countries intel and analysis at their tiers. i.e its above our paygrade to know the % estimate as to how each major country top domain evaluates others with info they have.

The less chance gauged for nuclear warfare or strategic rocket during this ramping up by China (of its military vis a vis growing economy to do it)....compared to likelihood of conventional/limited warfare also restricts the finance for the former i.e prioritization element (from likelihoods and what you gauge you are most behind on defence wise) during the ramping.

It would affect final E(X), which is probably stochastic modelled by say RAND et al. for say (especially) China and Russia to degree they can do.

This impacts strategic contours between the countries (in whatever prevailing tier of conflict they have ongoing).

One guy I know that works in something like a RAND affiliate, told me basically Russia is saddled by its decades low budgeting to its strategic forces and it has impacted its deterrence (along with overall tier adjudged to the Delta SSBNs etc).... compared to say 80s USSR. It all came out into discussion much more ever since the RUS/UKR war started as you can imagine.

Its kind of reverse of China (Russia de-ramped, and China ramped)....but same ramping pressure (with tooling, machining and capital production inertias)... to consider on the systems in deployment and impact of what your and others understanding is, given the saturations needed to overcome BMD that are critical in that domain....with or without a larger MAD deterrent.

Yes. It's been reverse for PLA. DF-41 has been replacing all the old stuff in their arsenal in the strategic domain since 2017. Also recently we have been reading about Hundreds are new silos are being built for it. IMO, DF-41 should transform the PLA's land based strategic deterrence. Of course, there must be a significant C2 modernization behind the scene to back it up. I imagine it is Also going on in full swing.
 

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Boys in the forum wanted maldives to host a rocket launching pad and naval base for turkey But seems that is not gonna go anywhere 🙃.

This is why patience is important like I said before. Maldives is simply too small and close to India to not be bipartisan on good relations with India.

Lot of Maldivians were putting pressure on Muizzu for a while now w.r.t India.
 

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Modi’s Retirement: Who’s Next?

(I mourn Ratan Tata's demise; but I am worried about Narendra Modi's replacement soon)

As Prime Minister Narendra Modi passes 75 years of age, a potential retirement looms, aligning with his belief that leaders should step down by that age. This raises the critical question of succession in the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) ahead of the 2029 general elections. The RSS, a powerful influence in BJP affairs, is expected to play a significant role in determining future leadership. In contrast, the opposition’s INDI Alliance, a coalition of regional parties united by a desire to defeat the BJP, lacks ideological coherence. While they came close to a breakthrough in the 2024 elections, their long-term success remains uncertain.

In the 2024 elections, the Congress Party secured 99 seats, the Samajwadi Party 37, and the Trinamool Congress 29, while the BJP was reduced to a minority with 240 seats. This outcome has prompted speculation about the future of BJP leadership and whether the party can maintain its dominance beyond Modi’s tenure. The expectation is that Modi will hand over leadership by 2029, and several potential successors are already being considered.

Key figures within the BJP who could replace Modi include Yogi Adityanath, the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh; Himanta Biswa Sarma, the chief minister of Assam; and Shivraj Singh Chouhan, the former chief minister of Madhya Pradesh. Additionally, federal ministers Amit Shah and Nitin Gadkari are seen as strong contenders. All these individuals have strong leadership credentials, having held significant administrative roles, and are closely aligned with the Modi-style governance model. Chandrababu Naidu, while a part of the National Democratic Alliance (NDA), may also be considered, though his lack of RSS backing could be a disadvantage.

On the other side, the INDI Alliance’s leadership faces its own challenges. Rahul Gandhi remains a central figure in the Congress Party but lacks substantial administrative experience, which has led to repeated political setbacks. Other experienced politicians in the alliance, such as P. Chidambaram, Shashi Tharoor, and Jairam Ramesh, may provide stability, but the party’s reliance on Gandhi continues to be a point of concern. Additionally, leaders like M.K. Stalin of Tamil Nadu and Mamata Banerjee of West Bengal are potential candidates for national leadership roles, though Banerjee’s numerous political obstacles may hinder her chances.

The Congress Party, out of power for over 15 years, faces the challenge of adapting to governance if they return to power. Rahul Gandhi’s leadership, largely inherited and shaped without extensive practical experience, has contributed to the party’s struggles. In contrast, the BJP appears more prepared for a leadership transition, with several seasoned leaders ready to step up. While the INDI Alliance has successfully challenged the BJP’s dominance, their internal coherence and leadership remain in question. Both parties have time to refine their strategies for the next electoral contest, but for now, BJP’s succession plans seem more robust than the Congress Party’s reliance on Rahul Gandhi.
 

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