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If the STM "next generation" Milgem concept is on scale it must be a huge ship about same size of TF2000, aprox. 170m long.

I start to wonder whether the TF2000 design is going to be scrapped and replaced by STM Milgem design
I would prefer “Zumwalt” design of US destroyer.
 

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If even the Poles are impressed by the Turkish defense industry...

"Our President @IsmailDirSSB Met with Dariusz PLUTA, Deputy Chief of the Polish General Staff, and his accompanying delegation hosted at our institution. The competencies of the two countries in the field of defense industry were discussed at the meeting."

 

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Here is an 1,5 years old news (at least I missed even though I was constantly checking for this)

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Oyak's Finnish investment Miilux's Manisa Factory started manufacturing and We can produce armor steel plates locally Since August 2019,.

Hammaddesi Ereğli Demir Çelik A.Ş.’de üretilen zırh levhaları, Miilux Manisa fabrikamızda ısıl işlem ve gerekli şekillendirmeleri yapacak şekilde tüm yetkinlere haiz olup Ağustos 2019 tarihinden bu yana üretim yapmaktadır. Bir başka söylem ile bu tarihten itibaren OYAK Miilux, Türkiye’nin zırh çeliği dahil tüm yüksek dayanımlı çelik ihtiyacını, dış kaynaklara gerek kalmadan karşılayabilir durumdadır.

 

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Here is an 1,5 years old news (at least I missed even though I was constantly checking for this)

Annocument from Miilux

Oyak's Finnish investment Miilux's Manisa Factory started manufacturing and We can produce armor steel plates locally Since August 2019,.

Hammaddesi Ereğli Demir Çelik A.Ş.’de üretilen zırh levhaları, Miilux Manisa fabrikamızda ısıl işlem ve gerekli şekillendirmeleri yapacak şekilde tüm yetkinlere haiz olup Ağustos 2019 tarihinden bu yana üretim yapmaktadır. Bir başka söylem ile bu tarihten itibaren OYAK Miilux, Türkiye’nin zırh çeliği dahil tüm yüksek dayanımlı çelik ihtiyacını, dış kaynaklara gerek kalmadan karşılayabilir durumdadır.


I shared the issue of technology transfer from Oyak and Finland in Defence.pk. Of course, my sharing flew when I changed the forum. The Turkish version is here. The English version remained in Defence.pk.
 

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Nordic countries are very developed in the steel industry. You see Turkish companies buying armor steel from Finnish companies on the list. But now the factory in Manisa now Oyak Miilux steel armor is no longer a problem for Turkey. Oyak acquired 70% of Miilux in December-2018. In addition, in January 2019, SSB and Coşkunöz Holding signed a domestic armor steel development R&D project.
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Nordic countries are very developed in the steel industry. You see Turkish companies buying armor steel from Finnish companies on the list. But now the factory in Manisa now Oyak Miilux steel armor is no longer a problem for Turkey. Oyak acquired 70% of Miilux in December-2018. In addition, in January 2019, SSB and Coşkunöz Holding signed a domestic armor steel development R&D project.
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What type of steel are they producing?
 

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I class will be launched soon and one slot will be available. I was personally expecting 4th ship of Pakistan's corvette project to be laid in that position.

Also such a short time may indicate the design will not be altered and will be delivered as is.
I think I saw in a thread that Ukraine's Corvette is going to be longer by 10-15m, wouldn't that indicate that it'll have VLS. Could Ukraine have asked for the PN version ?

I would imagine that Ukraine would want the VLS.
 

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I think I saw in a thread that Ukraine's Corvette is going to be longer by 10-15m, wouldn't that indicate that it'll have VLS. Could Ukraine have asked for the PN version ?

I would imagine that Ukraine would want the VLS.
most probably.. as Russia is famous for anti ship missiles...
 

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I think I saw in a thread that Ukraine's Corvette is going to be longer by 10-15m, wouldn't that indicate that it'll have VLS. Could Ukraine have asked for the PN version ?

I would imagine that Ukraine would want the VLS.
Their own frigate-corvette design is 112 meters and similar to Ada-Class in tonnage between of I-Class / Ada Class, I think they will complete project 58250 following the know-how they have gained from Ada-Class project.

I will post main dimensions of the vessel if it can be verified.

They have earlier asked for assistance and ToT/Know-how without purchasing any vessels from Turkey but it has been concluded differently.

If it is different from Ada or I Class we will hear about it soon. On the other hand construction starts too soon which may indicate minor modifications (replacement of Anti-ship missiles, FCR, etc)
What i wonder ,whether it is going to have a different main radar similar to APAR Ukraine has shown on project 58250


I am more skeptic about delivering a critical know-how to a private shipyard in a foreign country owned by God knows who, while Naval shipyard in Turkey used to have hesitations of ToT to Turkish private shipyards and didn't transfer the same know-how without a critical project (such as , production being awarded by SSB).
Such a know-how should be delivered to a state-military owned shipyard with dedicated security protocols.
We should consider why this shipyard was avoided by western countries in local production of some assets. And which shipyard was chosen by British for local production of FAC
 
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Their own frigate-corvette design is 112 meters and similar to Ada-Class in tonnage between of I-Class / Ada Class, I think they will complete project 58250 following the know-how they have gained from Ada-Class project.

I will post main dimensions of the vessel if it can be verified.

They have earlier asked for assistance and ToT/Know-how without purchasing any vessels from Turkey but it has been concluded differently.

If it is different from Ada or I Class we will hear about it soon. On the other hand construction starts too soon which may indicate minor modifications (replacement of Anti-ship missiles, FCR, etc)
What i wonder ,whether it is going to have a different main radar similar to APAR Ukraine has shown on project 58250


I am more skeptic about delivering a critical know-how to a private shipyard in a foreign country owned by God knows who, while Naval shipyard in Turkey used to have hesitations of ToT to Turkish private shipyards and didn't transfer the same know-how without a critical project (such as , production being awarded by SSB).
Such a know-how should be delivered to a state-military owned shipyard with dedicated security protocols.
We should consider why this shipyard was avoided by western countries in local production of some assets. And which shipyard was chosen by British for local production of Island-Class
Perhaps that is one reason for building it in Turkey.
 

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