all Azerbaijani jets are needed to be changed.. soo old.. i hope Azerbaijan switch to Akinji and other products,, it can start using Turkish Kalkan radar and modernize Russian systems. Russia never make a contract when they sell products about their modernization and limitations, only thing they might be serious is s300 and s400 which could also be used as stand alone system for ballistic missiles..
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Bro maybe Turkish and Azeri Airforces can have later down road something like NORAD?
Combined airspace monitoring for command and control...
after Armenia using several ballistic missiles on Azerbaijan cities that has no military nearby but just because it is the second most populated city(Ganja) and the water electric station that if got heated, 26 cities will be under water(Mingechevir,also 4th biggest city and hold the electricity that gives more than 50% of all Azerbaijan), seems Azerbaijan takes it serious as there might be another war in Karabakh and Azerbaijan could also use Turkish satellites against them and at the same time purchase Turkish air defense missiles if its allowed to sell. Iran understand that once there is way to Nakhchivan from Azerbaijan given by Armenia, it will be encircled by all Turkish friendly countries.. so they also work with Russia these days. even today as soon as Erdogan mentioned that he talked with Aliyev, Iranian foreign minister called to Russia. I think Russians would never make that mistake, because there is no local people who wants to die for that, same would be for Russia, as local Russian people totally against any war in Caucasus..
my only estimation, Azerbaijan and Turkey could start some operation with excuses again which will live short but might push Russia to stop playing games.. it also work for Russia, as any new operation would be resulted with end of current Armenian president, or could diminish his reputation.. i think Azerbaijan also work so they might ask for more land to do it
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after Armenia using several ballistic missiles on Azerbaijan cities that has no military nearby but just because it is the second most populated city(Ganja) and the water electric station that if got heated, 26 cities will be under water(Mingechevir,also 4th biggest city and hold the electricity that gives more than 50% of all Azerbaijan), seems Azerbaijan takes it serious as there might be another war in Karabakh and Azerbaijan could also use Turkish satellites against them and at the same time purchase Turkish air defense missiles if its allowed to sell. Iran understand that once there is way to Nakhchivan from Azerbaijan given by Armenia, it will be encircled by all Turkish friendly countries.. so they also work with Russia these days. even today as soon as Erdogan mentioned that he talked with Aliyev, Iranian foreign minister called to Russia. I think Russians would never make that mistake, because there is no local people who wants to die for that, same would be for Russia, as local Russian people totally against any war in Caucasus..
my only estimation, Azerbaijan and Turkey could start some operation with excuses again which will live short but might push Russia to stop playing games.. it also work for Russia, as any new operation would be resulted with end of current Armenian president, or could diminish his reputation.. i think Azerbaijan also work so they might ask for more land to do it
Honestly I have little to no understanding of Aliyev and his coterie, they are from USSR era, I just know that...and they are operating on some inertia from it.
How Turkey handles it to make better inroad, lets see I guess. This 2020 war has given a big outreach for it to get azeri public more cognisant on it at any rate....but Russia and whatever levers it has in Azeri "Deep state" will need to be understood well by Turkey for formation of east-west axis in region....and contrasted well with any overt north south axis russia-armenia-iran does.
Like who is even 2nd/3rd/4th in line etc after Aliev in Azeri power circles, are they more pro-Turkey than Aliev? Do they take good reference from Azeri people etc? Things like that....maybe you can tell me some more on it. I find that kind of stuff in machiavellian corridors somewhat fascinating (beyond the names of the countries, wars, issues themselves)
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It says "system".... like I'm guessing all the relevant architecture for C4I etc. (as used by both airforces)
But actual coordinated centre (at least officially + overt) needs more work + legislation etc (I think).
I have studied NORAD quite a bit...quite a fascinating subject how they made this work between two countries.
You dont understand Azerbaijan. Azerbaijani public fully support Turkey. even if We are oil and gas rich, believe me, if tomorrow they say join with Turkey and 1 country, 99% wouldnt even mind about money, they would be more than happy to do it. they really look at it as their country.
just imagine that we are the only country(taking out Belarus) that still in any school you choose to speak Russian or Azeri language to continue studying. I dont like it. but the thing is even though Russia tried its best to change the public to its favor, not a single people like Russia. even people, those cannot speak Azeri, only speak Russian, they even hate Russia and love Turkey.
Russia and Iran knows that even if they invest billions to put their people, it will not change anything. whole population dont like them, they simply love Turkey and everybody had Turan in mind. as if you dont know, Turan is powered from Azerbaijan by ELchibey. if you see Karabakh war, every single soldier in their videos show wolf sign, simply huge local support for Turkey. Anything Turkey does they dont even judge it, they know that its something good for them, including the airbase or something else.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but apart from that badge I have not seen any news or report confirming this so far?
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Well we can pick it up some more in another thread maybe. Of course I don't understand Azerbaijan like most here...I don't live there...I only got 1 good friend from there (who I learned most things from but its just 1 person with only some time for it).
But tbh, something went on w.r.t Aliev given AZ military had Armenia dead to rights on N-K but stopped and let Russia "intervene". It is just what I see being removed from it. Either earlier agreement or pressure applied somewhere....because it made no sense on the ground situation at that time.
Anyway thread is about Turkey defence exports, we can pick this up in more appropriate thread, maybe mod can move these replies to one.
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One thing I was wondering is ; During the Azerbaijan/Karabagh and Libya conflict, Turkey sold hundreds of millions dollar worth of equipment and ammunition to these two countries. Does any body know where this money was channelled to? Or what we have done with it? Who has benefited from it?
I would rather think that this money was put towards delayed programs . But do we know if it was so?
I would rather think that this money was put towards delayed programs . But do we know if it was so?
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It is impossible for a citizen to know where that money was directed.
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Not impossible if “Court of Accounts” (Sayıştay) reports were allowed to happen. Normally these are actual exports made by the individual companies even if they were government owned. So their exports would be registered and shown on their accounts ledger. We know these sales occurred since our defence exports are published. So whether this money was channelled to ongoing defence programs or spent elsewhere would be shown in “Courts of Accounts” reports.
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There was/is a UN resolution on not arming AZ and ARM as I know it, so no record of it would be made. Correct me if I am wrong though.
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Actually 10th point says:
10. Urges States to refrain from the supply of any weapons and munitions which might lead to an intensification of the conflict or the continued occupation of territory;
”Urges” being the operative word.
Since Russia was the country that was supplying arms to Armenia, they would have vetoed any move stopping Arms shipment to Armenia.
1993 UN Security Council Resolutions on Nagorno-Karabakh
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Turkey’s SAHA Expo draws attention - Latest News
Turkey’s largest defense fair, organized by the Istanbul Defence and Aerospace Cluster Association, SAHA, has drawn greater attention from both domestic and foreign investors.
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ASELSAN Chairman of the Board and General Manager Prof. Dr. Görgün said, "ASELSAN signed over $ 450 million export contracts in 2020 despite the pandemic."
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ASELSAN geçen yıl 450 milyon doları aşkın ihracat sözleşmesi imzaladı
ASELSAN Yönetim Kurulu Başkanı ve Genel Müdürü Prof. Dr. Görgün, "ASELSAN 2020 yılında, pandemiye rağmen 450 milyon doların üzerinde ihracat sözleşmesi imzaladı. Normalleşmeyle birlikte gelecek yıllarda bu rakam daha da artacaktır." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı
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The alleged new military hardware exports from Turkey to Bangladesh
T.C. Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu made an official visit to Bangladesh to open the Turkish Embassy in Bangladesh in December 2020. During his visit, Çavuşoğlu had a meeting with Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheick Hasina and Foreign Minister AK Abdullah Momen. It was stated that the cooperation between the two countries in defense and health issues was discussed at the meeting. The trade volume between the two countries will reach $ 2 billion a year in the near future, which was said at the joint press conference held after the meeting.
During the talks said, as quoted by Turkey's My Defcesa.co, 2030 within the scope of the defense industry targets allegedly offered to cooperate in Bangladesh. It is alleged that during Çavuşoğlu's visit to Bangladesh, cooperation offers such as military equipment and technology transfer at affordable prices and conditions were presented for Bangladesh. In addition to the news of late claims, any requirement in Turkey to Bangladesh for the use of the aforesaid equipment is said to be transferred will run.
According to the news, the Turkish production of the Bangladesh Army; It is stated that he is interested in aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, attack helicopters, air defense systems, armored vehicles, artillery systems, small and medium-sized warships, electronic warfare systems, radio communication equipment and ammunition.
It is claimed that the Bangladesh Army signed a contract with Turkish defense industry companies such as ROKETSAN and ASELSAN for the supply of medium-range guided rocket / missile systems and medium-range land-to-air missile systems. The staff of the Bangladesh army, in the alleged information was sent to Turkey to receive training in this regard.
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T.C. Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu made an official visit to Bangladesh to open the Turkish Embassy in Bangladesh in December 2020. During his visit, Çavuşoğlu had a meeting with Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheick Hasina and Foreign Minister AK Abdullah Momen. It was stated that the cooperation between the two countries in defense and health issues was discussed at the meeting. The trade volume between the two countries will reach $ 2 billion a year in the near future, which was said at the joint press conference held after the meeting.
During the talks said, as quoted by Turkey's My Defcesa.co, 2030 within the scope of the defense industry targets allegedly offered to cooperate in Bangladesh. It is alleged that during Çavuşoğlu's visit to Bangladesh, cooperation offers such as military equipment and technology transfer at affordable prices and conditions were presented for Bangladesh. In addition to the news of late claims, any requirement in Turkey to Bangladesh for the use of the aforesaid equipment is said to be transferred will run.
According to the news, the Turkish production of the Bangladesh Army; It is stated that he is interested in aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, attack helicopters, air defense systems, armored vehicles, artillery systems, small and medium-sized warships, electronic warfare systems, radio communication equipment and ammunition.
It is claimed that the Bangladesh Army signed a contract with Turkish defense industry companies such as ROKETSAN and ASELSAN for the supply of medium-range guided rocket / missile systems and medium-range land-to-air missile systems. The staff of the Bangladesh army, in the alleged information was sent to Turkey to receive training in this regard.
Türkiye'den Bangladeş'e yeni askerî donanım ihracatı iddiası
Türkiye’nin, 2030 yılı savunma sanayii hedefleri kapsamında Bangladeş’e iş birliği teklif ettiği iddia ediliyor.
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The Kenyan army announced that it will purchase 118 HIZIR armored personnel carriers from Katmerciler. The total price is said to be 518 million lira.
Kenya, Türkiye'den 118 zırhlı personel taşıyıcı satın alacak
Kenya Savunma Kuvvetleri Sözcüsü Kioko, The Star gazetesine yaptığı açıklamada, sınırların korunması ve terör örgütü Eş-Şebab'la etkin mücadele için Türk savunma sanayisi şirketlerinden Katmerciler'in ürettiği "Hızır"ı satın alacaklarını söyledi. - Anadolu Ajansı
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That is $590000 per piece or 488000 Euro's per piece. I wonder if they've chosen the Aselsan SARP option.
The Kenyan army announced that it will purchase 118 HIZIR armored personnel carriers from Katmerciler. The total price is said to be 518 million lira.
Kenya, Türkiye'den 118 zırhlı personel taşıyıcı satın alacak
Kenya Savunma Kuvvetleri Sözcüsü Kioko, The Star gazetesine yaptığı açıklamada, sınırların korunması ve terör örgütü Eş-Şebab'la etkin mücadele için Türk savunma sanayisi şirketlerinden Katmerciler'in ürettiği "Hızır"ı satın alacaklarını söyledi. - Anadolu Ajansı
