TR Defence Exports & Updates

[cr33pt3d]

I guess you refering to the requirements? No official information regarding your question however it should have all the modern features you can think off including long range missiles with a range exceeding 8+km. The light attack helicopter will accompany the apaches, and replace the old gazelle.

so you guys have 24 active gazelles right, seems unlikely the US allows engine delivery for such big contract. let's hope this will go through . probably 1+ billion dollar at stake here. uncle sam seems to not give a fuck when TAI sells 3-6 here an there, but this time, they will force AH-1Z

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

so you guys have 24 active gazelles right, seems unlikely the US allows engine delivery for such big contract. let's hope this will go through . probably 1+ billion dollar at stake here. uncle sam seems to not give a fuck when TAI sells 3-6 here an there, but this time, they will force AH-1Z

The interest of the ATAK has been there since 2017-2018. If the interest is still there then it means that Morocco have got guarantees.

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1663653755651325954

Another NATO member purchased TB2 from Baykar.

 

[Peter66]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1663653755651325954

Another NATO member purchased TB2 from Baykar.

any ideas on who?

 

[Agha Sher]

any ideas on who?

People are speculating the country to be Hungary.

 

[Hepdert]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1663955566757019648

 

[Anmdt]

Defence industry press attention and company PR is same old, not surprised me;

STM has presented Ada Class based corvette solution for Malaysia's corvette tender, no pictures taken, no questions asked. Congrats.

Finally:

Note the 16 VLS in the back. We can choose GOKDENIZ or different solution on this with 8 AShM.

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[Afif]

Finally:

@Anmdt what are you implying?
@Isa Khan is talking about BD navy.


And i don't see any bloody VLS, or do I need to check my eyes?

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt what are you implying?
@Isa Khan is talking about BD navy.


And i don't see any bloody VLS, or do I need to check my eyes?

The quoted post within the quoted post refers to Malaysian LMS tender, which STM submitted an Ada Class based design, showcased in LIMA but wasn't captured by anyone.

 

[Lordimperator]

@Anmdt what are you implying?
@Isa Khan is talking about BD navy.


And i don't see any bloody VLS, or do I need to check my eyes?

This one?

 

[Afif]

View attachment 57866
This one?

Probbaly.

 

[Stimpy75]

MFR 56 by System Defence Phillipine....to replace the FN Minimi

 

[Anmdt]

As required by tender;
8 VLS - VL MICA ( Project requires 8, there could 8 in picture but seemed as 16 due to the imagery alias)
30 mm
2 x 2 Exocet SSM
76 mm
Sensor suite by Thales (3D radar, STIR - EO)

Another feature, now Ada-Class is presented in CODAD or CODELAD, similar to ADKG of ASFAT. This is a key feature for enabling exports.

 

[Tornadoss]

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As required by tender;
8 VLS - VL MICA ( Project requires 8, there could 8 in picture but seemed as 16 due to the imagery alias)
30 mm
2 x 2 Exocet SSM
76 mm
Sensor suite by Thales (3D radar, STIR - EO)

Another feature, now Ada-Class is presented in CODAD or CODELAD, similar to ADKG of ASFAT. This is a key feature for enabling exports.

Isn't 4 SSM is too little?

 

[Anmdt]

Isn't 4 SSM is too little?

It's their requirement.

 

[Tornadoss]

It's their requirement.

Yeah I know but I wonder what is their reasoning.

 

[Sanchez]

View attachment 57880

As required by tender;
8 VLS - VL MICA ( Project requires 8, there could 8 in picture but seemed as 16 due to the imagery alias)
30 mm
2 x 2 Exocet SSM
76 mm
Sensor suite by Thales (3D radar, STIR - EO)

Another feature, now Ada-Class is presented in CODAD or CODELAD, similar to ADKG of ASFAT. This is a key feature for enabling exports.

Fully French loadout maybe except for the 76mm. Seems they are the winners no matter who comes up on top for LMS Batch 2.

 

[Agha Sher]

Fully French loadout maybe except for the 76mm. Seems they are the winners no matter who comes up on top for LMS Batch 2.

This is the issue. Most navies when purchasing new platforms will seek to have weapon and sensor commonality with their existing platforms. This gives a significant unfair competitive advantage to countries which have been in the business for a long time.

Turkiye needs to somehow break the chain. One way could be to give a massive discount on ATMACA, HISAR etc. on the first sale. Then later on the customer would be more inclined to buy form you again at full price (due to weapon and sensor commonality preferences).

 

[cr33pt3d]

can't blame them, Hisar D is not fully operational in our navy, and atmaca's just starting.

 

[Anmdt]

can't blame them, Hisar D is not fully operational in our navy, and atmaca's just starting.

Other customers are willingly receiving Atmaca and Turkish sensors, Malaysia had put specific brands in the bidding documents. Pakistan have got Albatros NG, Ukraine has got VL MICA and both ships are also equipped with Turkish systems in extend. Looks like it is not the issue here.