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Kyrgyzstan procured Bayraktar TB2 SİHA from Turkey. The statement was made by Kamchybek Tashiev, Chairman of the Kyrgyzstan National Security Committee.

According to the information shared by the Chairman of the Kyrgyzstan National Security Committee Kamchybek Tashiev , Kyrgyzstan purchased a total of 300 million Kyrgyzstani Som ($33.4 million) worth of military equipment.
According to Tashiev, Kyrgyzstan announced for the first time that in addition to 40 armored vehicles, they bought Bayraktar TB2 S/UAVs from Turkey. Tashiev also stated that Kyrgyzstan's TB2s are on the production line. Noting that Bayraktar TB2s are in the inventory of only 5 countries, Tashiev confirmed that Kyrgyzstan will join these countries.

“To Be Delivered Soon”​

The information that the TB2s produced for Kyrgyzstan will be delivered soon was also shared by Tashiev. Tashiev also noted that they have procured Orlan-10 UAVs from Russia.

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Kyrgyzstan procured Bayraktar TB2 SİHA from Turkey. The statement was made by Kamchybek Tashiev, Chairman of the Kyrgyzstan National Security Committee.

According to the information shared by the Chairman of the Kyrgyzstan National Security Committee Kamchybek Tashiev , Kyrgyzstan purchased a total of 300 million Kyrgyzstani Som ($33.4 million) worth of military equipment.
According to Tashiev, Kyrgyzstan announced for the first time that in addition to 40 armored vehicles, they bought Bayraktar TB2 S/UAVs from Turkey. Tashiev also stated that Kyrgyzstan's TB2s are on the production line. Noting that Bayraktar TB2s are in the inventory of only 5 countries, Tashiev confirmed that Kyrgyzstan will join these countries.

“To Be Delivered Soon”​

The information that the TB2s produced for Kyrgyzstan will be delivered soon was also shared by Tashiev. Tashiev also noted that they have procured Orlan-10 UAVs from Russia.

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The video of kamchybek tashiev where he talks about bayraktar from 0:50 minute
 

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Sadly it seems that T129 deal with Pakistan is cancelled. They waited too long, can't blame them..

We shall wait for something more official than a Twitter post with pictures, till then;

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We shall wait for something more official than a Twitter post with pictures, till then;

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Pakistan already has some Z-10s which donated by China for evaluation purposes. For some time there were rumours about Z-10ME procurement (which is an different version with upgrades different from the ones Pakistan has). It's been years and engine problem hasn't solved yet and it seems it won't.
 

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181 billion TL is almost 17 billion euros. Thats not much.

USA: 778 billion
China: 252 billion
India: 73 billion
Russia: 62 billion
You would be right "IF" I say again "IF" Turkiye try to buy products from foreigner.
As we know Turkiye develop, produce own product and pay with Lira-> which COST less and products are COMPETITIVE even some of them are BETTER than foreigner ones.

So comparing TL with euro -> 181 billion TL is NOT EQUAL to 17 billion euros.Why?
Because if you are foreigner and want to buy a Turkiye product you have to pay the price equal or little bit less then foreigner product in euro,dollar etc.
But if you are Turkiye army you are not.

So 181 bil TL is ~ equal of 120 bil euro.
Just using raw calculation on the basis that 75% of Military products are local it mean Turkish products
If you don't know Ismail Demir said -> we are closed for buying foreigner products -> IF there is need we produce it locally. Of course there are "exceptions", but they can't change 181 bil TL Military value that much
 

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Ufuk Aibar, Member of the Board of Otokar Central Asia, informed about the investment objectives in Kazakhstan and the successful completion of testing of Arma 8x8 armored vehicles
 

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Should we open up another thread in which we can discuss the overall effects of Embargoes on the Turkish Defence Industry?


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The activities carried out within the Turkish defence industry and the localization of critically important subsystems and units continue unabated.​


Turkish engineer 'turned the power' overcame the embargo


Ankara​

The difficulties that arise from time to time for military vehicles and equipment procured from abroad for the needs of the security forces are also experienced in the supply of subsystems and units used in these platforms in the future. Turkish defense industry companies are doing localization studies for platforms developed nationally in order to prevent such situations.
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Power management is of great importance in all electronic systems. "Military AC/DC converters" designed in accordance with military and aviation standards are used for both energy management and energy conversion. Anova R&D Technologies has created a domestic product family from converters that were supplied from abroad in the past but could not be obtained recently.
İbrahim Altunsoy, Anova R&D Technologies Electronic Design Manager, told Anadolu Agency (AA) that there are 2 main manufacturers of AC/DC converters in the world.
Emphasizing that there were no offers for products whose intellectual property rights are abroad, and that there were supply problems, Altunsoy pointed out that even if the products are found today, it is unclear whether they will be found in the future.
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Produced for the first time in the world​

Explaining that solutions can be produced for different current and voltage levels with modular AC/DC converters, Altunsoy stated that they have been working on developing these products, which are widely used in the Turkish defense and aerospace industry, for a while.
Stating that they produced 2500-watt modular AC/DC converters for the first time in the world to meet the special needs of the platform on which they will be located, Altunsoy said:
"Thus, we localized a product that was not produced by current manufacturers, upon need. Later, we expanded our work for a domestic product family with smaller 50, 100, 250, and 500 watt versions. The 500 watt AC/DC converter had been used on an aerial platform for 10 years. The converter inside can no longer be supplied. A power unit that manages the helicopter's weapon system. Without this, the platform would either fly unarmed or a new solution had to be developed. We produced this product in a short time with the experience we gained. It will be attached to the platform soon. The deliveries of the 2500-watt product have begun, the 500-watt We will also start the deliveries of the version of this year. The qualification of our domestic AC/DC converters has been completed, and the platform-level tests are continuing.As a result of the activities started in Istanbul, we both meet the domestic product needs in current projects and we have created a domestic product family."
Stating that there is a need for power converters wherever there are electronic systems, weapons, radar, navigation systems, all kinds of computers, calculations and sensor units are fed from these power converters, Altunsoy said, "Our products will be released in the first quarter of next year on the DC/DC side. AC/DC is relatively difficult. It's an area. The number of producers is very limited. We prioritized it because we needed it ourselves." said.

Delivery times and costs are reduced​

Noting that when AC/DC converters are wanted to be purchased from abroad, delivery times can take up to 30-40 weeks, Altunsoy said that the delivery time of domestic products is limited to 4-6 weeks. Stating that they will deliver 30 products in a short time, Altunsoy noted that this way, disruptions in the project calendars will be prevented.
Stating that besides delivery times, significant cost advantage will be achieved with domestic products, Altunsoy stated that domestic AC/DC converters can be supplied at a price of one third.
Altunsoy stated that AC/DC converters are widely used in aircraft as well as platforms with limited space such as ships, submarines, and electric rail transport vehicles.
Altunsoy underlined that the product, whose number of producers is very limited, also has a serious export potential.

Export time in military fan​

Anova R&D Technologies has recently created a product family by localizing the most frequently used fans for military purposes.
While the cost is halved with domestic fans, the product family with 14 different fans attracts great attention. There are more than 2,000 open orders for fans in the country. Foreign talks for fans have also started. Anova aims to export its first fan this year.
Another localized product, the Ammunition Flex Chute, was exported to 15 countries.

 

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Untel has exported Military Grade Cables to;
  • Dutch Navy JSS (Joint Support Ship) Project
  • Egyptian Ministry of Defense
  • Indonesian Navy
  • Ukrainian Navy

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AC/DC is relatively difficult.

The whole article does not make any sense as more or less every single electronics equipment in the world have some form of AC/DC, DC/AC or DC/DC converters. These are really easy and cheap to design, specially the AC/DC converters are easy as you need very few parts. I'm sure that every single one of you tons of AC/DC converters in your home right now.

I'm personally working on a 10-30kW passively cooled 3 phase AC/DC and DC/AC converter for 800V DC-grid distribution in micro-grids (including your typical PV installation at home). It is not the best inverter in the world but it does the job for industrial applications. A 500W unit for rough outdoor application would cost $20-200 and maybe $1000 with military or medical grade components.

A company like Aselsan should have zero problem of designing and producing their own AC/DC, DC/AC, DC/DC converters as these must be part of their equipment.
 

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The whole article does not make any sense as more or less every single electronics equipment in the world have some form of AC/DC, DC/AC or DC/DC converters. These are really easy and cheap to design, specially the AC/DC converters are easy as you need very few parts. I'm sure that every single one of you tons of AC/DC converters in your home right now.

I'm personally working on a 10-30kW passively cooled 3 phase AC/DC and DC/AC converter for 800V DC-grid distribution in micro-grids (including your typical PV installation at home). It is not the best inverter in the world but it does the job for industrial applications. A 500W unit for rough outdoor application would cost $20-200 and maybe $1000 with military or medical grade components.

A company like Aselsan should have zero problem of designing and producing their own AC/DC, DC/AC, DC/DC converters as these must be part of their equipment.

I think you should point Main and Important information mentioned. Which is missing at all in you explanation.
Let me give you some directions. It may give you personally some thought for "I'm personally working on a 10-30kW passively cooled 3 phase AC/DC and DC/AC converter for 800V DC" checking it.


So

1. Detail is "90+" efficiency. I will try to explain what this mean and it is a BIG FACTOR.
it is a path -> Let say you pass through AC/DC then DC/DC then Impotent is here "LOAD is connected" and test begin if load connected is used as test simulating 100% load for let say 6-7 hours. Then LOSS from AC/DC then DC/DC to provide to LOAD at 100% consumption DOES NOT DROP in ANY TIME bellow 90+% . This thing is hard to achieve (You need to have Software and good design to all above elements to ACHIEVE 90+% Energy conversion efficiency to LOAD connected making All of shits to Device providing the power all time with 90+% Energy conversion efficiency)



2. It is about that they have Control of "RAILS" each "RAIL" provide 2500W. On picture it show 3xRails . They control activating/deactivating each Rail dynamically depending on connected LOAD and if more or less power is need it. Dynamically they connect/disconnect each Rail. This Software contorting the Hardware in such way for LONG period and providing 90+% Energy conversion efficiency on EXTREME.


I would could add more details what they achieved there from share news which got my eye, but I have to stop explaining.
There are imporntent details which it is seems you don't able to see. it is not about AC/DC DC/DC thingy
 

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I think you should point Main and Important information mentioned. Which is missing at all in you explanation.
Let me give you some directions. It may give you personally some thought for "I'm personally working on a 10-30kW passively cooled 3 phase AC/DC and DC/AC converter for 800V DC" checking it.


So

1. Detail is "90+" efficiency. I will try to explain what this mean and it is a BIG FACTOR.
it is a path -> Let say you pass through AC/DC then DC/DC then Impotent is here "LOAD is connected" and test begin if load connected is used as test simulating 100% load for let say 6-7 hours. Then LOSS from AC/DC then DC/DC to provide to LOAD at 100% consumption DOES NOT DROP in ANY TIME bellow 90+% . This thing is hard to achieve (You need to have Software and good design to all above elements to ACHIEVE 90+% Energy conversion efficiency to LOAD connected making All of shits to Device providing the power all time with 90+% Energy conversion efficiency)

2. It is about that they have Control of "RAILS" each "RAIL" provide 2500W. On picture it show 3xRails . They control activating/deactivating each Rail dynamically depending on connected LOAD and if more or less power is need it. Dynamically they connect/disconnect each Rail. This Software contorting the Hardware in such way for LONG period and providing 90+% Energy conversion efficiency on EXTREME.


I would could add more details what they achieved there from share news which got my eye, but I have to stop explaining.
There are imporntent details which it is seems you don't able to see. it is not about AC/DC DC/DC thingy
The unit i'm working on have +99% peak efficiency and 98% efficiency at full load. It is a bi-directional 3-phase unit with load balancing with 5-10kW on each phase and up to 30kW on the DC rail at 800V. This unit DO NOT DISCONNECT any phase or DC rail as that would be AGAINST grid-codes (EN50549-1) unless the grid fails. It just shift power between the phases so that the primary energy source can have a balanced load (I assume that you know what the primary energy source is on an air-craft and why it is important with balanced load on a rotary power generator). If needed, software can be used to prioritize certain loads (phase) on the AC side. Additional equipment can be attached to the DC rail to prioritize DC loads. Like I said, it is bi-directional. All this is standard for power electronics and not something very difficult, you can literally find 1000s of schematics on Google for such circuits. Air-craft power electronics is even lighter than grid connected units as they work on higher frequency.

Furthermore, even a relatively cheap 1kW AC/DC PSU have +90% efficiency which is always at a certain load. The efficiency of all PSUs will drop for low load and and very high load, this is just pure physics.

But please explain what they have achieved instead of us reading such a misleading article written by journalist without any knowledge. Or you could link to some article describing the performance of the unit if you dont want to write something yourself. I'm genuinely interested in this product in order to understand it, I might even be able to help.


Btw, nobody talks about a 2.5kW unit and mean 3x2.5kW. You would ALWAYS say that it is a 7.5kW unit in that case.
The unit on the picture is simply 2.5kW unit with a single 270VDC output, as it say on the label. The efficiency is probably well above 98% due to the high output voltage.


Dynamically they connect/disconnect each Rail.
This is a $1 relay or mosfet you are talking about. not very impressive to be honest.
 

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