As mentioned in the original article:
I don't think that missiles would be that different, nor the missile subsystems, the main difference will be TELs, links and radar systems
Just me trying to get this right though
They have different needs obviously
I think it is likely to be modified hisar rf and siper to meet indonesian requirement with a new name tag on it.
literally from Morrocco to Indonesia in the actual sense! nobody seems to wanna miss out!
Embargoes and threat of getting embargoed has always been the number one problem for militaries whose country that is not aligned with either China or Russia but at the same time not necessarily part of the western world.Damm! It seems turkish defence industry truly became Noah's ship for muslim majority countries!
Who would have thought something like that 20 years ago !
I should tell you guys, It is not just you who are experiensing something new and exceptional in a long time!
But I think in some sense, it is more or less every muslim country from morrocco to Indonesia!
No doubt that, the spectacular rise of turkish defence industry is a very positive development for the Republic of turkey as a nation state.
A comparative contemporary case like turkey can be found in other part of the world. I think it would be fair to say south korea also had a similar rise in defence industry like turkey.
However, unlike south korea, the rise of turkish defence industry having ( slowly but surely ) an unprecedented impact on the geopolitical and security power dynamics between North African, central asian, south east asian, middle eastern countries and the great powers. ( Especially the west )
Think about it, ten years ago if you wanna buy any world class strategic defence equipment from the west how much geopolitical and other compromise you needed to make to the great powrs for that!
Take for example KSA or other Gulf countries! They have the world's best weapons but they can't even do a shit with it ! Except serving western interests with it in expense of their very own interest. ( of course, very recently it is changing little by little )
Western power enjoyed more or less similar monopoly over mejority of muslim countries for a long time.
Except now it is started to change recently by the rise of turkish defence industry.
Now muslim countries can have highly sophisticated strategic equipments like, long range air defence, modern frigate, submarine ( and fifth gen fighter in the near future ) from a brotherly country.
Thus, we don't have to make unacceptable geopolitical compromise to the west anymore to get these strategically vital equipments! Or We don't have to give up a big chunk of our national resources to big western companies! Nor we have to live in constant fear that, they can cripple our strategic assets by simply cutting of the spare parts or just messing up the softwares, if we move slightly against their interest!
The more success turkish defence industry has from morrocco to Indonesia, the more century old western monopoly fades away.
If you loot at it in this broader sense, the extremely embargo happy behaviors of the most western countries would become more obvious!
For them, Strong turkish defence not just a 'strong turkey problem' on its own! but also, it creates hell of a lot more broader issues for them to deal with! They definitely fear that, an strong and cooperative turkish defence industry would fuel rise of some other 'unfriendly' defence industries around thee world in near future!
I know, the significance of the concept i am describing here maybe little difficult for turks to understand, given turkey has never been colonized nor it has been under such heavy monopoly. But for others, for the first time in hundred years they are having a chance to gain more control and sovereignty from the west over their own affairs, their own national security and geopolitical choices. And this is huge! Really really huge!
Of course, all of these giving birth to 'NEW TURKIYE' in great power's geopolitics given the amount of significant influence Turkiye is gaining through these strategic security cooperation with brotherly countries.
And of course, overall most of the muslim countries won't mind turkish influence for the same reason most of the west by and large don't mind US influence. ( which is, having more or less similar geopolitical amd geoeconomic interests )
Didn't Indonesia refuse to join the Turkish drone journey even though Ankara invited your politicians publicly?
I don't remember when we are invited, but here's what I know. Indonesian defense supplier has always been dominated by European companies (Thales, MBDA etc) and historically American (during the new order era, before the embargo).
This is not entirely true, there had been talks between the two parties with defence minister Prabowo visiting Turkiye and its arms industry several times, its just it took so long for Indonesia from "showing interest" and the signing of deals. So long many have come to the conclusion that Indo-Turkiye cooperation will remain hot air, one huge skeptic of Indonesia signing major defense deals with Turkiye that I know is @Anmdt .
Damm! It seems turkish defence industry truly became Noah's ship for muslim majority countries!
Who would have thought something like that 20 years ago !
I should tell you guys, It is not just you who are experiensing something new and exceptional in a long time!
But I think in some sense, it is more or less every muslim country from morrocco to Indonesia!
Western power enjoyed more or less similar monopoly over mejority of muslim countries for a long time.
but, overall most of the muslim countries won't mind turkish influence for the same reason most of the west by and large don't mind US influence. ( which is, having more or less similar geopolitical amd geoeconomic interests )
This is not possible for foundation companies (Aselsan, Roketsan, Havelsan, Aspilsan, TAI, etc.). However, we observe that these companies have established joint companies with the partner companies in the relevant countries. For example, Aselsan's JV in KSA. There many other examples.
Damm! It seems turkish defence industry truly became Noah's ship for muslim majority countries!
Who would have thought something like that 20 years ago !
I don't mind if the old man in ankara's palace woke some morning in his bed and mistake himself as a sultan for couple of moments!
Jokes aside No doubt that, the spectacular rise of turkish defence industry is a very positive development for the Republic of turkey as a nation state.
A comparative contemporary case like turkey can be found in other part of the world. I think it would be fair to say south korea also had a similar rise in defence industry like turkey.
However, unlike south korea, the rise of turkish defence industry having ( slowly but surely ) an unprecedented impact on the geopolitical and security power dynamics between North African, central asian, south east asian, middle eastern countries and the great powers. ( Especially the west )
Think about it, ten years ago if you wanna buy any world class strategic defence equipment from the west how much geopolitical and other compromise you needed to make to the great powers for that!
Take for example KSA or other Gulf countries! They have the world's best weapons but they can't even do a shit with it ! Except serving western interests with it in expense of their very own interest. ( of course, very recently it is changing little by little )
Western power enjoyed more or less similar monopoly over mejority of muslim countries for a long time.
Except now it is started to change recently by the rise of turkish defence industry.
Now these countries can have highly sophisticated strategic equipments like, long range air defence, modern frigate, submarine ( and fifth gen fighter in the near future ) from a brotherly country.
Thus, they don't have to make unacceptable geopolitical compromise to the west anymore to get these strategically vital equipments! Or they don't have to give up a big chunk of our national resources to big western companies! and more importantly they can alos get rid of the fear that, west can cripple their strategic assets by simply cutting of the spare parts or just messing up the softwares, if we move slightly against their interest!
The more success turkish defence industry has from morrocco to Indonesia, the more century old western monopoly fades away.
If you loot at it in this broader sense, the extremely embargo happy behaviors of the most western countries would become more obvious!
For them, Strong turkish defence industry not just a 'strong turkey problem' on its own! but also, it creates hell of a lot more broader issues for them to deal with!
They definitely fear that, an strong and cooperative turkish defence industry would fuel the rise of some other 'unfriendly' defence industries around thee world in near future!
I know, the significance of the concept i am describing here maybe little difficult for turks to understand, given turkey has never been colonized nor it has been under such heavy monopoly. But for others, for the first time in hundred years they are having a chance to gain more control and sovereignty from the west over their own affairs, their own national security and geopolitical choices. And this is something really special! that feeling!
Of course, all of these giving birth to 'NEW TURKIYE' in great power's geopolitics given the amount of significant influence Turkiye is gaining through these strategic security cooperation with brotherly countries.
but, overall most of the muslim countries won't mind turkish soft power influence for the same reason most of the west by and large don't mind US influence. ( which is, having more or less similar geopolitical amd geoeconomic interests )
