TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Agha Sher]

Fully French loadout maybe except for the 76mm. Seems they are the winners no matter who comes up on top for LMS Batch 2.

This is the issue. Most navies when purchasing new platforms will seek to have weapon and sensor commonality with their existing platforms. This gives a significant unfair competitive advantage to countries which have been in the business for a long time.

Turkiye needs to somehow break the chain. One way could be to give a massive discount on ATMACA, HISAR etc. on the first sale. Then later on the customer would be more inclined to buy form you again at full price (due to weapon and sensor commonality preferences).

 

[cr33pt3d]

can't blame them, Hisar D is not fully operational in our navy, and atmaca's just starting.

 

[Anmdt]

can't blame them, Hisar D is not fully operational in our navy, and atmaca's just starting.

Other customers are willingly receiving Atmaca and Turkish sensors, Malaysia had put specific brands in the bidding documents. Pakistan have got Albatros NG, Ukraine has got VL MICA and both ships are also equipped with Turkish systems in extend. Looks like it is not the issue here.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Are the Turkish armed forces gonna join the African lion exercise, or are we talking about the delivery of weapon systems?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665471859377225736

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr. Haluk Görgün is the new head of SSB.
Congratulation...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665804979343355904

 

[AWP]

I am happy for Mr Gorgun , but no so happy unless we know where will Prof Ismail Demir go

 

[Sanchez]

Greater baykar effect on the industry. Aselsan will get bigger. Not great for meteksan. Hopefully Sage survives.
Not a great fan of this. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[Baryshx]

Greater baykar effect on the industry. Aselsan will get bigger. Not great for meteksan. Hopefully Sage survives.
Not a great fan of this. Hope I’m wrong.

I don't know if he will remain connected to Aselsan, because Aselsan will have a new president. Now he has to think in general...

 

[AzeriTank]

Greater baykar effect on the industry. Aselsan will get bigger. Not great for meteksan. Hopefully Sage survives.
Not a great fan of this. Hope I’m wrong.

he deserve it by making all important projects finish in 2023 as planned before as aesa radar, eots, stealth coating, irst, even the akkor and so on. I really want to see where he can take Turkish tech further, he is the guy that able to make the magic happen

 

[fushkee]

Good news. At least, Someone from the industry will lead the industry. Ismail Demir has been in duty for 9 years.
I don't think the other companies will be effected in negative way. It will boost everyone.

 

[Olaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665814425062764544

 

[uçuyorum]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665814425062764544

That's what came to my mind immediately too, but might they sanction him too? Isn't entire SSB sanctioned

 

[Anastasius]

That's what came to my mind immediately too, but might they sanction him too? Isn't entire SSB sanctioned

These US sanctions apply to the job position not the individual themselves. Demir was sanctioned as president of the agency and Haluk will be the same.

 

[fushkee]

Yeah, There is a misinterpreting here. Individuals are not sanctioned but positions.

 

[Yasar_TR]

The United States Sanctions Turkey Under CAATSA 231 - United States Department of State

Today, the United States is imposing sanctions on the Republic of Turkey’s Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) pursuant to Section 231 of the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) for knowingly engaging in a significant transaction with Rosoboronexport, Russia’s main...

2017-2021.state.gov

The Caatsa paper clearly states asset freeze and visa restrictions on individuals as well as the position they hold in the last sentence of first paragraph. Yes. The sanctions are there for the position too, as stated in the first sentence of the same paragraph. But people are sanctioned too. Albeit due to their position within the company.

quote:

Today, the United States is imposing sanctions on the Republic of Turkey’s Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) pursuant to Section 231 of the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) for knowingly engaging in a significant transaction with Rosoboronexport, Russia’s main arms export entity, by procuring the S-400 surface-to-air missile system. The sanctions include a ban on all U.S. export licenses and authorizations to SSB and an asset freeze and visa restrictions on Dr. Ismail Demir, SSB’s president, and other SSB officers.

unquote.

 

[abbatee]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666152627296428032

 

[Sanchez]

And a possible FAC 46 sale under their “light frigate” program as per Jake. Great news!

 

[TheInsider]

According to some Temel Kotil played a role in the departure of İsmail Demir.

 

[Agha Sher]

According to some Temel Kotil played a role in the departure of İsmail Demir.

Really seems like Demir was demoted. He is now the chairman of a steel producing conglomerate. What a step backwards for a man who did his job well for so many years. Quite sad

 

[dBSPL]

The Nigerian Navy signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Dearsan Shipyard, for the modernization of its flagship NNS ARADU (F98).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666128354699882496

MEKO 360H1 is the oldest MEKO frigate in active service, in fact, the first MEKO built. If Nigeria plans to keep this ship in active service for more than 10 years, I think we should consider modernizing and selling Yavuz class frigates through Dearsan after similar modernization package.