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I am thinking uav or other unmanned stuff. Not sure if Vietnam would buy OPV from us.
 

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It's interesting. It is clearly on the British armed forces pavilion "Land Static Display" section alongside Ajax, Boxer and Challenger but noone else is reporting it. NMS is showcased both in this pavilion and also by Nurol alongside Ejder in their own section. So it's clear that NMS is in extensive testing with UK MoD; but unclear why NMS is shown at the pavilion alongside already actively in use vehicles while other contenders from the same program are missing.

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Where I got the screenshots from. Pretty big showing from Turkish companies, BMC, Aselsan and Roketsan are also visible.

Finally able to see the poster next to it, it's a sales pitch for Nurol UK and its offered vehicles, Ejder(Dragon), NMS(Nomad) and NMS-L(Lurcher). Still very interesting:

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“Turkey has officially applied to join the EU's SAFE defense program...
According to Euractiv's news, Turkey and South Korea have officially applied to join the 150 billion euro SAFE program for European defense. The news also included statements from European Commission Spokesperson Thomas Rainier regarding the applications being received “
 

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“Turkey has officially applied to join the EU's SAFE defense program...
According to Euractiv's news, Turkey and South Korea have officially applied to join the 150 billion euro SAFE program for European defense. The news also included statements from European Commission Spokesperson Thomas Rainier regarding the applications being received “
Probably Greece and SC will block it.
 

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Vietnam bought NATO-standard ammunition production line from Atesci Company of Turkey. An important milestone in the defense partnership between Vietnam and Turkey. (y)

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He referred to export revenues, not price tag.

I also asked Özgür Güleryüz about Turkey’s warship ecosystem and its size. According to the information he provided, an average warship is valued at around 300 million dollars. Currently, more than 30 warships are being built in Turkey. According to our calculations, this represents a total value of 9 billion dollars. Güleryüz said that the company achieved a turnover of 550 million dollars in 2024, with 65-70% of that coming from export revenues, and added: “We aim to double that amount in warship exports.”

Are you sure he's not talking about selling 300 million dollar ship as 600 million dollar ?
 

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He referred to export revenues, not price tag.

I also asked Özgür Güleryüz about Turkey’s warship ecosystem and its size. According to the information he provided, an average warship is valued at around 300 million dollars. Currently, more than 30 warships are being built in Turkey. According to our calculations, this represents a total value of 9 billion dollars. Güleryüz said that the company achieved a turnover of 550 million dollars in 2024, with 65-70% of that coming from export revenues, and added: “We aim to double that amount in warship exports.”

Are you sure he's not talking about selling 300 million dollar ship as 600 million dollar ?
Because this is what shows when you read CNN Turk news using Google translate
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STM General Manager Özgür Güleryüz announced the company's new goals at TEKNOFEST. Güleryüz noted that more than 30 warships are currently being produced in Türkiye, with the average value of a single ship being $300 million. He emphasized that Türkiye plans to export these ships for twice that amount, approximately $600 million.
 

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Because this is what shows when you read CNN Turk news using Google translate
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STM General Manager Özgür Güleryüz announced the company's new goals at TEKNOFEST. Güleryüz noted that more than 30 warships are currently being produced in Türkiye, with the average value of a single ship being $300 million. He emphasized that Türkiye plans to export these ships for twice that amount, approximately $600 million.
Export prices are always higher, twice the local price is probably very cheap and it could probably sell for more. A price that is more attractive than a competing product's price is a good price also comparing quality of products.
 

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Export prices are always higher, twice the local price is probably very cheap and it could probably sell for more. A price that is more attractive than a competing product's price is a good price also comparing quality of products.
True but also depends on who you are selling to and if you're still the best option in terms of price/quality. If you are selling to saudi arabia you can make more money than selling to pakistan or indonesia but still have to outbid the italians and french and koreans unless its also got political interest than thats also a driving factor. but overall we undercut most nations even the south koreans but they are just way faster
 

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There's no frigate to be had for 300 million. There are only a handful frigates to be had for 600 million. An equivalent, bit larger European design will go for 800.

STM is very competitive, their prices and deals they offer reflect that. Filipino Malvars are overgrown OPVs with CODAD and without any actual armament. They carry export spec sensors, and are not actual "warships" in the true sense of the word re survivability. If one wants a ship like that, Hisar Class already exists. For a frigate, Istif is probably the cheapest you can find.
 

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There's no frigate to be had for 300 million. There are only a handful frigates to be had for 600 million. An equivalent, bit larger European design will go for 800.

STM is very competitive, their prices and deals they offer reflect that. Filipino Malvars are overgrown OPVs with CODAD and without any actual armament. They carry export spec sensors, and are not actual "warships" in the true sense of the word re survivability. If one wants a ship like that, Hisar Class already exists. For a frigate, Istif is probably the cheapest you can find.
I know but if you need arms fast than Korea is the place to go they build a destroyer in under 2 years but they are more expensive than us
 
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