TR Economy & Updates

[Heartbang]

Erdoğan kept getting involved in the Palestinian-Israel conflict despite Palestinians always siding with the enemies of Turkey. In fact, the Palestinians were the ones who trained Armenians and PKK terrorists to kill Turks.

What Erdogan is really good at is to cover purely geopolitical moves under an obfuscation cover of ideology and narrative.
He claims that he's against Israel under the guise of "muh ummah" and stuff, but the motive of his involvement here is purely to defend Turkiye. Its sort of an open secret now that once Israel is sure that it's through with Gaza, they'll go north, taking over Lebanon and Syria, and then they'll try their chances with us.
Even Cyprus is in their sights, and the Greeks over there are quite happy and willing to be cucked by them any chance they get.

As for the Armenians and the PKK, they clearly did a shite job.

Turkey had a US $4 billion trade surplus with Israel. All Turkey did was harm itself.

"You fixin' to sodomize a guy, might as well pay them for his troubles."

 

[Tornadoss]

Israel is hostile to Turkiye. We are just defending ourselves.

If Turkey won't be too pro-Hamas maybe Israel would not be that hostile? Turkey harbor the head of terrorist having meetings with them which Israel considered as terrorists. We would be rightfully furious if they do the same with pkk.

What Erdogan is really good at is to cover purely geopolitical moves under an obfuscation cover of ideology and narrative.
He claims that he's against Israel under the guise of "muh ummah" and stuff, but the motive of his involvement here is purely to defend Turkiye. Its sort of an open secret now that once Israel is sure that it's through with Gaza, they'll go north, taking over Lebanon and Syria, and then they'll try their chances with us.
Even Cyprus is in their sights, and the Greeks over there are quite happy and willing to be cucked by them any chance they get.

As for the Armenians and the PKK, they clearly did a shite job.

"You fixin' to sodomize a guy, might as well pay them for his troubles."

It would be harder if we didn't help Syria getting screwed.

 

[Iskander]

I don't understand why Turkey is hostile to Israel to the point that it is willing to harm its trade with a country which Turkey has a large trade surplus with but is Okay with China, which not only genocides Turkic people but Turkey has a massive trade deficit with.

Turkey exports around US $2.93 billion to China while imports around US $41.35 Billion, and over 13 years, China has only invested around US $15 billion in Turkey.

This is largely due to the foreign policy of Turkey itself (very significant changes have occurred there over the past 10-12 years). As for Israel, this is Ankara’s reaction to the war in Gazza. In addition, the government must also take into account the mood in society.
The war will end, and over time everything related to trade will return to its previous state.
As for China, Turkey has no ability to influence it.

 

[Heartbang]

We would be rightfully furious if they do the same with pkk.

They already do so, not with their own hands though. They puppeteer the US.
Their cahootery is in the open now:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780200975195664620

 

[what]

A competitor to TOGG.

They've been a competitor without the factory too. Competition is good for the consumer, investments and jobs. Win-win.

 

[Tornadoss]

They already do so, not with their own hands though. They puppeteer the US.
Their cahootery is in the open now:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780200975195664620

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These are both after Turkey take an hostile attitude against Israel starting from Mavi Marmara and Davos. Israel was more pro-Turkey. Akp just screwed the relations with them for nothing. It was making more sense geopolitically to cooperate with Israel, they are holding the strings of US politics.

 

[Huelague]

They've been a competitor without the factory too. Competition is good for the consumer, investments and jobs. Win-win.

Yain (Yes and no). We have to establish and protect our own brand first.

 

[Lool]

After Togg's potential has been proven and its ability to swallow the whole markets with its high-quality yet cheaper state of the art EV vehicles
Second Automotive company, after BYD, to announce its intention of investing in Turkey. Soon, Turkey will swallow the whole EV production market for the Med East, Asia, and Europe


Translation:
Italian SWM Motor, operating under Shineray Group, one of China's leading automotive manufacturers, has completed its applications for production in Turkey.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813829877285507077

 

[Saithan]

After Togg's potential has been proven and its ability to swallow the whole markets with its high-quality yet cheaper state of the art EV vehicles
Second Automotive company, after BYD, to announce its intention of investing in Turkey. Soon, Turkey will swallow the whole EV production market for the Med East, Asia, and Europe


Translation:
Italian SWM Motor, operating under Shineray Group, one of China's leading automotive manufacturers, has completed its applications for production in Turkey.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813829877285507077

we'll see about that.

Let me just add that unless TOGG is of the VW or even Suzuki Quality as an EV AND with a pricetag WAY below any competitor meaning 20-30% cheaper than any other, then it won't amount to much.

 

[Lool]

we'll see about that.

Let me just add that unless TOGG is of the VW or even Suzuki Quality as an EV AND with a pricetag WAY below any competitor meaning 20-30% cheaper than any other, then it won't amount to much.

Lets have faith in Togg
Most assumed that it would fail yet it took over nearly 50% of the Turkish EV market in only 1.5 years

If Togg's quality or price was bad, then it wouldnt have reached this level of sucdess in such a short span. I even saw Turks posting videos on Twitter while driving Togg vehicles within EU countries like Germany and were quite satisfied with the ride

 

[Lool]

Turkey is slowly but surely recovering

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816030747439829081

 

[No Name]

Turkey is slowly but surely recovering

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816030747439829081

What is happening with Turkey's Tourism sector it seems that most western articals purclaime that the sector is faling apart such as this one from Euronews.

turkish tourists flock to Greece as inflation drives hotel prices through the roof

But Dailysabah claims that the industry has started to recover after a rocky start, yet all the Western papers are still publishing claims that it is still failing, so which is it?

dailysabah.com Antalyas tourism benefits as market rebounds after euro 2024

 

[Saithan]

What is happening with Turkey's Tourism sector it seems that most western articals purclaime that the sector is faling apart such as this one from Euronews.

turkish tourists flock to Greece as inflation drives hotel prices through the roof

But Dailysabah claims that the industry has started to recover after a rocky start, yet all the Western papers are still publishing claims that it is still failing, so which is it?

dailysabah.com Antalyas tourism benefits as market rebounds after euro 2024

There are or have been places that has not behaved properly, so those places are suffering. If the prices has been kept at fair level instead of greed deciding for them. They'd have had a more fair life.

So if TC wants tourists to come visit the country, we need to introduce tourism police that will monitor local people and shops behavior towards tourists.

Let me tell you that even if Morocco has corrupt police, they still don't want to argue with tourists, especially if they haven't done anything wrong. So it should be in TC.

 

[YeşilVatan]

The businesses that have been "hit hard" are parasitic and destructive in nature. Most of them are run by Kurdish tribal gangs, cause criminal problems, image problems, and never pay tax. If they all close up shop tomorrow, the country would benefit greatly.

 

[B_A]

Lets have faith in Togg
Most assumed that it would fail yet it took over nearly 50% of the Turkish EV market in only 1.5 years

If Togg's quality or price was bad, then it wouldnt have reached this level of sucdess in such a short span. I even saw Turks posting videos on Twitter while driving Togg vehicles within EU countries like Germany and were quite satisfied with the ride

We need a cheaper model soon.

 

[Bogeyman]

We put the bill for 28 cubic meters of natural gas and 28 cubic meters of water in Istanbul side by side.

28 cubic meters of natural gas 176 TL
28 cubic meters of water 1043 TL

Can someone explain to me how water can be 10 times more expensive than natural gas?

 

[Yasar_TR]

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We put the bill for 28 cubic meters of natural gas and 28 cubic meters of water in Istanbul side by side.

28 cubic meters of natural gas 176 TL
28 cubic meters of water 1043 TL

Can someone explain to me how water can be 10 times more expensive than natural gas?

1m3 of water weighs ~1000kg.
1m3 of natural gas weighs less than 8.3 kg.

In UK 1m3 of gas is ~ 0.55gbp
But 1m3 of water is ~1.80gbp


So I guess that gives some perspective

also pls do not exaggerate. Your example shows 5.9 times. Not 10.
within the water bill you have shared there’s is waste water cost as well.
UK water price I gave is without waste water.

 

[I_Love_F16]

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We put the bill for 28 cubic meters of natural gas and 28 cubic meters of water in Istanbul side by side.

28 cubic meters of natural gas 176 TL
28 cubic meters of water 1043 TL

Can someone explain to me how water can be 10 times more expensive than natural gas?

How good is the water distribution system in Istanbul ? Maybe it is very old and needs a lot of repairs and reworks, which means substantial increase in cost I guess ? I don’t know, I’m not sure.

 

[Rooxbar]

Greed is not a thing; all humans on average have the same amount of greed. Attributing inflation to greed is just a sign of economic illiteracy. 5 years ago these same people had a different nature and suddenly they became greedy?

 

[Bogeyman]

1m3 of water weighs ~1000kg.
1m3 of natural gas weighs less than 8.3 kg.

In UK 1m3 of gas is ~ 0.55gbp
But 1m3 of water is ~1.80gbp


So I guess that gives some perspective

also pls do not exaggerate. Your example shows 5.9 times. Not 10.
within the water bill you have shared there’s is waste water cost as well.
UK water price I gave is without waste water.

The cost of extracting, processing and storing natural gas is not the same as the cost of extracting and processing water. You also import natural gas in dollars. Likewise, most of the processing and extraction costs of natural gas (Black Sea gas) are probably calculated in dollars.

Therefore, I think it is impossible to compare quantitative value with qualitative value.