TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[BaburKhan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744683979989520826

Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia want to increase Defence Cooperation.

 

[Ryder]

Just yesterday NATO/America and their global media instruments were stirring the narrative of kicking Turkey out of NATO. Russia is the not threat she once was and from the looks of it she is going to continue decades of decay and regression. Do not open the black sea to America, they already set bases up with the PKK in syria and protect them against us. Don't let their navy entrench themselves in the black sea. It will in the long term only be used against us.

As long as the EU/US continue to side with terrorists against us, undermining us. Eventually when Russia weakens to such a point that she cannot challenge Turkey, it may be in our interest to create some kind of alliance in the blacksea together to defend against an US/EU coalition.

Moving forward i suspect the US/EU are going to turn into our major foe in the region, if they are not already.

Turkiye, China and Russia are considered threats to the White Race, Western civilisation and Europe in general.

Japan would be considered but it is now firmly under Western domination. So no chance of Japan challenging the World order like they did when Emperor Meiji modernised and industrialised the country.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Logic dictates when dealing with the US/EU that whatever they praise you for means you are doing against your own interests. Then depending on the level of pressure and threats they place against Turkey dictates how vital doing those things are to your interests. So when the Americans threaten or at the very least imply war against you when say moving on the PKK, then its vital you pursue those interests.

When the US/EU threaten us not to do something in "OUR" region, then its vital we do it.

A few years ago the west was pressuring Azerbaijan from the first second to ceasefire in liberating her occupied lands. Today the Isrealis are committing an open genocide with the intent to usurp yet more lands that don't belong to these predominantly somewhat mixed white eastern euro types. No mention or pressure of ceasefire, none whatsoever.

See the agenda for what it is, imperialism is more alive then its ever been in the region. All that's changed is an era of mass media and social media its face had to adapt.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Logic dictates when dealing with the US/EU that whatever they praise you for means you are doing against your own interests. Then depending on the level of pressure and threats they place against Turkey dictates how vital doing those things are to your interests. So when the Americans threaten or at the very least imply war against you when say moving on the PKK, then its vital you pursue those interests.

When the US/EU threaten us not to do something in "OUR" region, then its vital we do it.

A few years ago the west was pressuring Azerbaijan from the first second to ceasefire in liberating her occupied lands. Today the Isrealis are committing an open genocide with the intent to usurp yet more lands that don't belong to these predominantly somewhat mixed white eastern euro types. No mention or pressure of ceasefire, none whatsoever.

See the agenda for what it is, imperialism is more alive then its ever been in the region. All that's changed is an era of mass media and social media its face had to adapt.

Might makes right. Doesn't matter if you're wrong or right only the ability to kill millions will give you respect.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Might makes right. Doesn't matter if you're wrong or right only the ability to kill millions will give you respect.

The rise and fall of a people is based on incremental steps. The Ottomans were a tiny tribe on the western fringe, but you make the correct decisions step by step and eventually they became a massive power. Then the decline happens the same way, you incrementally make the wrong moves, you keep making them and then you find yourself at the end of world war one with the 4 corners occupied.

You get Ataturk and the men around him making the right moves in the next decade or two and here you are 1 hundred years later and your back at the table again. Not only at the table but your talking about building 5th gen fighter jets, something only a few nations of the world can do. With a mindset where its no longer to sit on the outside watching, but instead with a drive to start getting active again regionally.

The PKK agenda is exactly the same. Its no good going after Turkey unless you break iraq and syria first. So let me put it this way, if the PKK had been successful at completely making it to the med sea and a similar state was formed as the one in Northern Iraq. The next phase of the anglo-american agenda moves into play. At this point whoever our leader is will become the next saddam Hussein.

This is why when Turkey was going to move east Trump sent that letter, because the americans know that if we destroy their plans in Syria they cannot start the next phase against Turkey directly. They would have to go back to pretending they are our friends allies.

The best way to have a good relationship with the USA is to roll back their regional agenda as much as possible. The further they are in that agenda the more aggressive they will behave towards us.

On a side note an example of the regional agenda being rolled back against us was Azerbaijans victory against Armenian/Russian occupiers or Turkeys intervention in Cyprus 1974.

Imagine if Turks didnt move into Cyprus in 1974 can you imagine how more heavy the east med agenda would be against Turkey, then it is currently.

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744683979989520826

Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia want to increase Defence Cooperation.

ISPR
2nd Meeting of Pakistan, KSA and Turkiye Trilateral Defence Collaboration was held at GHQ, Rawalpindi on 8 January 2024.
The meeting provided an opportunity to discuss prospective collaboration in defence equipment technologies including research & development.
The three sides reaffirmed the importance of combining the intellectual, technical, financial and human resource of the three friendly nations towards the achievement of shared objectives and attainment of self sufficiency in the defence domain.
Acknowledging the historical brotherly relations, the three sides reiterated the strategic intent to increase the scope of trilateral cooperation and the need to enhance the pace of collaboration in pursuit of common goals.
Three sides agreed to convene next meeting on Trilateral Defence Industrial Collaboration during World Defence Show at Riyadh, KSA during Feberuary 2024.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744652976810291485

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I dont know where to post it so i post here at geopolitics Globalfirepower 2024 and Turkiye is 8th place

 

[Zafer]

Imagine what happens in ten years when ongoing development projects come online; fifth position and even fourth position is possible.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1743716156916068729

Greece is seen as the regional leader by USA

USA: Turkey is a guarantor force in Palestine!​

AN UNPLEASANT surprise awaited Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, when he received the American Secretary of State Anthony Blinken at his house in Chania. Coming from Turkey, the American official had already formed an important role for the neighboring country, while in Greece he simply reserved participation in the naval operation to protect navigation in Eritrea. And in fact without any substantial exchange, apart from some compliments. Instead, it expects Turkey to exploit its ties and influence, both for preventing the expansion of the war and for shaping the "tomorrow day" that the Americans envision with the Palestinians having their own state entity. However, all this was discussed with the Turkish President. Not with the Greek Prime Minister... However, the day after Anthony Blinken's visit to Athens, "government sources" and pro-government publications focus on whether we will get new F-35 fighters! This was also the issue that brought the American Minister of Foreign Affairs to the region. So we are understandably worried that something has gone wrong in this meeting and an attempt is being made to distract the attention of the citizens from the main issue.

In fact, when the government's "story" about fighter jets is not supported by statements from Anthony Blinken himself, our concerns increase. Unfortunately, the American minister came to Crete to declare on Greek soil how important Turkey is for developments in the Middle East. In fact, in the official American text, Turkey is referred to with the Turkish pronunciation of its name, as President Erdogan wants to impose Türkiye. No Turkey. But Greece is just Greece. So since Anthony Blinken excludes the fact that Mr. Erdogan and Mitsotakis brought Greece and Turkey closer together (Türkiye always so as not to displease the President of the neighbor), it highlights it as a guarantor force for the Middle East. He states specifically: "In Turkey (Türkiye) we focused, in fact giving great scope to what Turkey (Türkiye) can do using its influence, using its ties, in order to help not to expand the conflict in the Middle East. And we also discussed the role that Turkey (Türkiye) can play both in the next day for Gaza and in dealing with the demanding questions of governability under Palestinian control, security and reconstruction as well as cooperation with others in the framework of the effort to create conditions of durable and lasting peace and security in the region". He had nothing to say about Greece. He preferred to thank Mr. Mitsotakis because he "welcomed him into his home"!

And after the usual platitudes about Greek-American friendship and cooperation followed, he told us that one way to declare the continuation of this joint action is the participation of the Greek frigate in operations for the safety of navigation in Eritrea. For Turkey, therefore, a role of guarantor power with influences and ties that it can utilize, and for Greece a role of simple participation in an operation to keep the navigation channels open. Something that as a maritime country we had to do one way or another, but where we would expect it to be appreciated. And to bring diplomatic and other exchanges. Not mere compliments. Just as it had happened in 1990, when the late Konstantinos Mitsotakis, by sending a frigate to Eritrea, secured, among others, the granting of seven warships for the renewal of our Fleet and a large number of fighter and transport aircraft. Now, nothing.

No wonder that afterwards there were no questions from journalists about Greece, but only about Turkey and whether it showed that it intends to undertake obligations as of the next day in Gaza and the prevention of the expansion of the conflicts. In this regard, Mr. Blinken said: "From our discussions today, it appears that Turkey (Türkiye) is ready to play a positive and productive role in the work that must be undertaken the day after the end of the conflict, but also more broadly in the effort to find a way to ensure durable peace and security. We talked about it. I cannot give more details than that they are clearly willing to play a productive role. I think they are also ready to use the connections and influence they have, as well as their relationships with some of the most important players and some important states in the region, and do everything possible to de-escalate and prevent the conflict from expanding . Turkey can play a vital role in achieving this. A large part of our conversations was dedicated to this. They (the Turks) also share our interest in achieving this and I am sure that they will make every possible effort."

In particular, questions are raised by Anthony Blinken's overall position on the situation where he essentially equates Israel with Hamas, which he continues to include in the list of terrorist organizations. Is it a coincidence that this - verbal turn - occurs after Blinken's visit to Turkey and his discussions with Erdogan? In this regard, he states: "There are different perspectives, different needs, different requirements. But it is vital that we engage in this diplomacy now both for the sake of the future of Gaza itself, and more broadly for the sake of the future of Israelis and Palestinians and for the region as a whole. There is clearly a strong desire among the majority of people in the region for a future of peace, security, de-escalation of conflicts, integration of countries, and this is one way. This is a future".

His reference to "integration of the countries" is clear support for the intention of the Palestinians for secession and the creation of states with complete self-sufficiency. Although it is certain that in such a case Hamas will continue to dominate.

ΗΠΑ: Ἐγγυήτρια δύναμις ἡ Τουρκία στήν Παλαιστίνη! | ΕΣΤΙΑ ΗΜΕΡΗΣΙΑ ΕΦΗΜΕΡΙΣ

Τί ἀνεκοίνωσε ἐπί ἑλληνικοῦ ἐδάφους ὁ ὑπουργός Ἐξωτερικῶν Ἄντονυ Μπλίνκεν μετά τήν συνάντηση μέ τόν Πρωθυπουργό Κυριάκο Μητσοτάκη στά Χανιά – Πενιχρά τά κέρδη γιά τήν ἑλληνική ἐξωτερική πολιτική ΜΙΑ ΔΥΣΑΡΕΣΤΗ ἔκπληξις περίμενε τόν Πρωθυπουργό Κυριάκο Μητσοτάκη, ὅταν ἐδέχθη τόν Ἀμερικανό ὑπουργό...

www.estianews.gr

Even the Greek newspapers don't believe what you wrote. You're just deceiving yourself.

 

[Ecderha]

These motherfckers have turned our Kaan plane into the next independance war.

Turkiye will not be independant until it fully builds everything itself.

This is the next independance war.

I just want Turkiye to build its own stuff I dont care if the Kaan is not on par with the F35 or the F22. As long as it works and does its job Im more than happy than seeing Turkiye beg for jets.

These motherfckers will constantly be moving the goalposts.

Not to mention they tied the Eurofighter to Israel's security shows once again what a bunch of motherfckers they are.

No offense mate, but you are here in this forum from many years. There were so many FACTs about psudo allies and their systematic brutal anti Turkiye actions.
My questions:
Why people here trying to LIE yourself?
When you see again and again and again psudo allies official doing action against Turkiye and you forget it, you think that next time the matter will be different?
I really do not understand how you trying to be naive?

If you logically Think and WE also see it. The last couple of years of history show it to all of us and more then that there are FACTS.
"This is the next independence war" is Cristal Clear action to all Turk engineers and managers and politicians involved in Turkiye military products.

I really really do not understand people here which think that WEST changed. They keep do it -> systematically any new initiative or request from Turkiye WILL BE REACTED by psudo allies with embargoes, delays, bad treatment, sabotages, siding with Turkiye enemies, misleading, cheating, liying etc.

Do not expect and Do not lie youself about them, ever!

it is next independance war.
It is cold war.
It is what psudo allies do now days when come to Turkiye
it will NOT change untill there are Many FACTs - I saying again MANY MANY FACTS - initiated by psudo allies and prodvided by them which means many years pass and Turkiye then can see that and say " O yea, fact last 5-10 years show that psudo allies can be trust it".
Untill that happening -> Do not believe and do not expect any help from psudo allies.
They showed thier faces and proved that they can not be trusted and can not be added as ally

 

[B_A]

Imagine what happens in ten years when ongoing development projects come online; fifth position and even fourth position is possible.

Let Chinese Japanese westerner taiwanese to fight,we will get everything.

 

[Zafer]

Let Chinese Japanese westerner taiwanese to fight,we will get everything.

At that point we will probably be selling stuff rather than buying.

 

[B_A]

At that point we will probably be selling stuff rather than buying.

I have great confidence in conventional weapons. We must find ways to obtain nuclear power.

 

[Ecderha]

Let Chinese Japanese westerner taiwanese to fight,we will get everything.

Lie
you will not
pseudo allies will trigger documents that you Country have to join (obey) and to send you people, soldiers to go there and die or psudo allies
Then they will promise you what ever you want.
Remember "only promise". This mean "get nothing" only you are thinking that you will get everything.
Get real, stop dreaming. Stop relay on lies and officials which already saying you face that they hate you

 

[Zafer]

I have great confidence in conventional weapons. We must find ways to obtain nuclear power.

Once we have everything conventional we should look into that too.

 

[Rooxbar]

Just wanted to leave here two recent pieces of evidence showcasing the integrated nature of Western Intelligence alliance with Israel.

In the first one Al-Jazeera reports that Mossad agents were promising young Arab students in Turkey easy access to consulate meetings and visas in several European countries, including specifically Switzerland. They report how one of these students goes to the interview and to his own surprise bypasses any obstacles or queues.

Second one was published a couple of days ago and it concerns the infamous Stuxnet virus which brought Iranian nuclear efforts to a standstill damaging it to the tune of billions of dollars. This joint Israeli-American project (with the virus having a price tag of 1 billion $) was implemented by a Dutch intelligent officer, in undercover employment for a company in Dubai who used the Iranian status of his wife to get a job in Iran and infiltrate Natanz facilities.

The Stuxnet Mystery... Dutch Engineer Disrupted Iranian Uranium Enrichment

Sixteen years after the largest operation targeting the Iranian nuclear program, a new investigative report by a Dutch newspaper revealed the identity of the agent who introduced the “Stuxnet” computer worm to the main uranium enrichment facility in Natanz, central Iran, in a process that took...

english.aawsat.com

 

[GoatsMilk]

No offense mate, but you are here in this forum from many years. There were so many FACTs about psudo allies and their systematic brutal anti Turkiye actions.
My questions:
Why people here trying to LIE yourself?
When you see again and again and again psudo allies official doing action against Turkiye and you forget it, you think that next time the matter will be different?
I really do not understand how you trying to be naive?

If you logically Think and WE also see it. The last couple of years of history show it to all of us and more then that there are FACTS.
"This is the next independence war" is Cristal Clear action to all Turk engineers and managers and politicians involved in Turkiye military products.

I really really do not understand people here which think that WEST changed. They keep do it -> systematically any new initiative or request from Turkiye WILL BE REACTED by psudo allies with embargoes, delays, bad treatment, sabotages, siding with Turkiye enemies, misleading, cheating, liying etc.

Do not expect and Do not lie youself about them, ever!

it is next independance war.
It is cold war.
It is what psudo allies do now days when come to Turkiye
it will NOT change untill there are Many FACTs - I saying again MANY MANY FACTS - initiated by psudo allies and prodvided by them which means many years pass and Turkiye then can see that and say " O yea, fact last 5-10 years show that psudo allies can be trust it".
Untill that happening -> Do not believe and do not expect any help from psudo allies.
They showed thier faces and proved that they can not be trusted and can not be added as ally

The Turks biggest enemy is his naivety when looking at his enemies. This is why I really like the posts where people share the history of whose behind what and whose done what. Because the best way to help Turks is to make them see who their enemies are. We don't need outside help, we don't need coalitions to come and fight for us, we just need to see the reality of the situation.

Just like the Turks saw the reality with the weapons embargoes on the 1970's, it allowed us to be here today talking about a 5th gen fighter jet.

Honestly, its better for us for our enemies to be so open, to hold open meetings with PKK leaders and shove it in our faces, to write us letters and make threats of war against us. This wakes us up collectively and were exactly the kind of people who get excited at serious challenges.

Just like in 2016 when so called attempted coup happened, it didn't matter the reality of the situation what mattered is once the Turk feels he's under attack he will even throw himself under tanks to defeat it. He needs to see that threat/challenge to find the drive to do something about it.

And when you look back our internal enemies have done everything to make us think our biggest enemies are our closet allies. This is because the enemy understands our character, they use it against us. Well no more and it starts with each individual, don't accept their bullshit, don't accept their lies. Enough is enough.

 

[Bozan]

USA: Turkey is a guarantor force in Palestine!​

AN UNPLEASANT surprise awaited Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, when he received the American Secretary of State Anthony Blinken at his house in Chania. Coming from Turkey, the American official had already formed an important role for the neighboring country, while in Greece he simply reserved participation in the naval operation to protect navigation in Eritrea. And in fact without any substantial exchange, apart from some compliments. Instead, it expects Turkey to exploit its ties and influence, both for preventing the expansion of the war and for shaping the "tomorrow day" that the Americans envision with the Palestinians having their own state entity. However, all this was discussed with the Turkish President. Not with the Greek Prime Minister... However, the day after Anthony Blinken's visit to Athens, "government sources" and pro-government publications focus on whether we will get new F-35 fighters! This was also the issue that brought the American Minister of Foreign Affairs to the region. So we are understandably worried that something has gone wrong in this meeting and an attempt is being made to distract the attention of the citizens from the main issue.

In fact, when the government's "story" about fighter jets is not supported by statements from Anthony Blinken himself, our concerns increase. Unfortunately, the American minister came to Crete to declare on Greek soil how important Turkey is for developments in the Middle East. In fact, in the official American text, Turkey is referred to with the Turkish pronunciation of its name, as President Erdogan wants to impose Türkiye. No Turkey. But Greece is just Greece. So since Anthony Blinken excludes the fact that Mr. Erdogan and Mitsotakis brought Greece and Turkey closer together (Türkiye always so as not to displease the President of the neighbor), it highlights it as a guarantor force for the Middle East. He states specifically: "In Turkey (Türkiye) we focused, in fact giving great scope to what Turkey (Türkiye) can do using its influence, using its ties, in order to help not to expand the conflict in the Middle East. And we also discussed the role that Turkey (Türkiye) can play both in the next day for Gaza and in dealing with the demanding questions of governability under Palestinian control, security and reconstruction as well as cooperation with others in the framework of the effort to create conditions of durable and lasting peace and security in the region". He had nothing to say about Greece. He preferred to thank Mr. Mitsotakis because he "welcomed him into his home"!

And after the usual platitudes about Greek-American friendship and cooperation followed, he told us that one way to declare the continuation of this joint action is the participation of the Greek frigate in operations for the safety of navigation in Eritrea. For Turkey, therefore, a role of guarantor power with influences and ties that it can utilize, and for Greece a role of simple participation in an operation to keep the navigation channels open. Something that as a maritime country we had to do one way or another, but where we would expect it to be appreciated. And to bring diplomatic and other exchanges. Not mere compliments. Just as it had happened in 1990, when the late Konstantinos Mitsotakis, by sending a frigate to Eritrea, secured, among others, the granting of seven warships for the renewal of our Fleet and a large number of fighter and transport aircraft. Now, nothing.

No wonder that afterwards there were no questions from journalists about Greece, but only about Turkey and whether it showed that it intends to undertake obligations as of the next day in Gaza and the prevention of the expansion of the conflicts. In this regard, Mr. Blinken said: "From our discussions today, it appears that Turkey (Türkiye) is ready to play a positive and productive role in the work that must be undertaken the day after the end of the conflict, but also more broadly in the effort to find a way to ensure durable peace and security. We talked about it. I cannot give more details than that they are clearly willing to play a productive role. I think they are also ready to use the connections and influence they have, as well as their relationships with some of the most important players and some important states in the region, and do everything possible to de-escalate and prevent the conflict from expanding . Turkey can play a vital role in achieving this. A large part of our conversations was dedicated to this. They (the Turks) also share our interest in achieving this and I am sure that they will make every possible effort."

In particular, questions are raised by Anthony Blinken's overall position on the situation where he essentially equates Israel with Hamas, which he continues to include in the list of terrorist organizations. Is it a coincidence that this - verbal turn - occurs after Blinken's visit to Turkey and his discussions with Erdogan? In this regard, he states: "There are different perspectives, different needs, different requirements. But it is vital that we engage in this diplomacy now both for the sake of the future of Gaza itself, and more broadly for the sake of the future of Israelis and Palestinians and for the region as a whole. There is clearly a strong desire among the majority of people in the region for a future of peace, security, de-escalation of conflicts, integration of countries, and this is one way. This is a future".

His reference to "integration of the countries" is clear support for the intention of the Palestinians for secession and the creation of states with complete self-sufficiency. Although it is certain that in such a case Hamas will continue to dominate.

ΗΠΑ: Ἐγγυήτρια δύναμις ἡ Τουρκία στήν Παλαιστίνη! | ΕΣΤΙΑ ΗΜΕΡΗΣΙΑ ΕΦΗΜΕΡΙΣ

Τί ἀνεκοίνωσε ἐπί ἑλληνικοῦ ἐδάφους ὁ ὑπουργός Ἐξωτερικῶν Ἄντονυ Μπλίνκεν μετά τήν συνάντηση μέ τόν Πρωθυπουργό Κυριάκο Μητσοτάκη στά Χανιά – Πενιχρά τά κέρδη γιά τήν ἑλληνική ἐξωτερική πολιτική ΜΙΑ ΔΥΣΑΡΕΣΤΗ ἔκπληξις περίμενε τόν Πρωθυπουργό Κυριάκο Μητσοτάκη, ὅταν ἐδέχθη τόν Ἀμερικανό ὑπουργό...

www.estianews.gr

Even the Greek newspapers don't believe what you wrote. You're just deceiving yourself.

Blinked is putting the bill on TR for Palestinian reconstruction and refugees, I don't think Greece particularly cares about this.

That publication is trying to make agitprop. Most of the paragraphs are nothing, just speculation. An entire paragraph on how Turkiye is spelt, an entire paragraph on how Blinken may have equated Israel with Hamas and how this may have occurred due to Erdogan.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Imagine what happens in ten years when ongoing development projects come online; fifth position and even fourth position is possible.

india is big we cant catch it but others is possible so 5 th position is very possible .
We just need 5-10 years .
Reaching 2+ Trillion economy and 6 Trillion ppp , becaming 100 million population and fullfill every military tech .

 

[Zafer]

india is big we cant catch it but others is possible so 5 th position is very possible .
We just need 5-10 years .
Reaching 2+ Trillion economy and 6 Trillion ppp , becaming 100 million population and fullfill every military tech .

India is big but we are moving faster in military technology.