TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752727634323136518

 

[Rooxbar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752021755995025689

See how weird and crazy she looks when saying that? Now, it wouldn't look as crazy if you knew that Nancy Pelosi has read the article below the day before about Code Pink and its relations to a shady Chinese philanthropist.

A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul (Published 2023)

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

www.nytimes.com

Pelosi has read that, but most Americans who will see her whine about the Chinese when it is just plain normal Americans who are protesting her will not have known about any of that. They will think she's just flailing and accusing anything she can to evade criticism. Most will not take her seriously.

I make the post to underline a point about how Western institutions put pressure on their adversaries, and how China seems to be learning from them. They do lots more of the stuff like China is trying to do here. They do so much of it that it becomes very hard for even professionals to decipher it, let alone the populace. One simple instance is how they can create and amplify social unrest in a flick of a finger because of the networks of media, local actors and elites that they create and sustain, e.g. in the Tibet situation for the past couple of decades. U.S. milked that situation as hard as they could to suddenly completely abandon it when they concluded that the attempts are futile. You can read about the sudden decision to reduce Tibet aid to zero by U.S. government here: https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/did-the-us-just-abandon-tibet/; but it should be noted that the decision was preceded by several years of media silence on the issue.

Now when a country in the periphery and its leaders start ranting about the West and their actors disrupting the country, and start seeing clandestine hands behind every act, their populace cannot and do not take them seriously; this is most of the time warranted as although those clandestine hands do exist, more times than not the politicians will use it only as an excuse to cover their own wrongdoings and mistakes. But just like Pelosi here, they do not realize that most of their populace cannot and will not take these accusations seriously, so using them only can work within the limits of preaching to your own choir, even if that.

Now China seems to be learning, and Russia has been quite successful in creating discord and using culture war debates to look sympathetic to a minority of populace in several European countries. But the more of these playing cards you have in your hand and the more sinister and distant your use of them is, the harder it is to irrefutably trace them back to your adversary in front of the gazing eyes of your population; the paranoia and the evidence that feeds it will make your politicians seem delirious and the frustration will lead them to sound like a broken clock always blaming "China" or some other country. I have not seen any credible connection between BLM and China yet for instance, so it seems they are only at the start of their journey. I think this code pink stuff, the NYT "expose" and the Pelosi reaction are only the first chapter of this new delirium in American politics.

 

[Sai]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752021755995025689

See how weird and crazy she looks when saying that? Now, it wouldn't look as crazy if you knew that Nancy Pelosi has read the article below the day before about Code Pink and its relations to a shady Chinese philanthropist.

A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul (Published 2023)

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

www.nytimes.com

Pelosi has read that, but most Americans who will see her whine about the Chinese when it is just plain normal Americans who are protesting her will not have known about any of that. They will think she's just flailing and accusing anything she can to evade criticism. Most will not take her seriously.

I make the post to underline a point about how Western institutions put pressure on their adversaries, and how China seems to be learning from them. They do lots more of the stuff like China is trying to do here. They do so much of it that it becomes very hard for even professionals to decipher it, let alone the populace. One simple instance is how they can create and amplify social unrest in a flick of a finger because of the networks of media, local actors and elites that they create and sustain, e.g. in the Tibet situation for the past couple of decades. U.S. milked that situation as hard as they could to suddenly completely abandon it when they concluded that the attempts are futile. You can read about the sudden decision to reduce Tibet aid to zero by U.S. government here: https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/did-the-us-just-abandon-tibet/; but it should be noted that the decision was preceded by several years of media silence on the issue.

Now when a country in the periphery and its leaders start ranting about the West and their actors disrupting the country, and start seeing clandestine hands behind every act, their populace cannot and do not take them seriously; this is most of the time warranted as although those clandestine hands do exist, more times than not the politicians will use it only as an excuse to cover their own wrongdoings and mistakes. But just like Pelosi here, they do not realize that most of their populace cannot and will not take these accusations seriously, so using them only can work within the limits of preaching to your own choir, even if that.

Now China seems to be learning, and Russia has been quite successful in creating discord and using culture war debates to look sympathetic to a minority of populace in several European countries. But the more of these playing cards you have in your hand and the more sinister and distant your use of them is, the harder it is to irrefutably trace them back to your adversary in front of the gazing eyes of your population; the paranoia and the evidence that feeds it will make your politicians seem delirious and the frustration will lead them to sound like a broken clock always blaming "China" or some other country. I have not seen any credible connection between BLM and China yet for instance, so it seems they are only at the start of their journey. I think this code pink stuff, the NYT "expose" and the Pelosi reaction are only the first chapter of this new delirium in American politics.

Who is Neville Roy Singham, accused of funding Chinese propaganda in India and abroad? - BusinessToday

In 1993, Neville Roy Singham founded ThoughtWorks, a technology consultancy firm that provides custom software, software tools, and consulting services. He served as the chairman of the firm until he sold it to Apax, a British private equity firm, in 2017 for $785 million.

www.businesstoday.in

This guy was in Indian news a few months ago for spreading Chinese propaganda.

 

[Rooxbar]

Who is Neville Roy Singham, accused of funding Chinese propaganda in India and abroad? - BusinessToday

In 1993, Neville Roy Singham founded ThoughtWorks, a technology consultancy firm that provides custom software, software tools, and consulting services. He served as the chairman of the firm until he sold it to Apax, a British private equity firm, in 2017 for $785 million.

www.businesstoday.in

This guy was in Indian news a few months ago for spreading Chinese propaganda.

It says he's a Marxist who was pushing Chinese propaganda. Does that mean he was defending China in Indian media?

 

[Sai]

It says he's a Marxist who was pushing Chinese propaganda. Does that mean he was defending China in Indian media?

He financed a news website called NewsClick which has a global network and sprinkles its coverage with Chinese government talking points. it is currently under investigation for alleged money laundering and foreign funding violations in India. He has links to several American charities and non-profit groups that are working to promote his agenda. These propaganda groups are funded by American non-profits that have received millions in donations.

 

[Rooxbar]

He financed a news website called NewsClick which has a global network and sprinkles its coverage with Chinese government talking points. it is currently under investigation for alleged money laundering and foreign funding violations in India. He has links to several American charities and non-profit groups that are working to promote his agenda. These propaganda groups are funded by American non-profits that have received millions in donations.

You see what I meant is kind of the opposite of that. You don't hire Marxists as China to do your propaganda. All aspects of that operation ooze amateurism. You help an Indian magnate of sorts and help him establish media targeting Hindutvas, hire known Indian pundits who may question, say, secular nature of the constitution and start dividing. Copy/paste for other divisive issues (and other more niche local issues), argue for the most extreme positions on both sides of the isle, positions that might have a base of support on the ground, creating demand gaps that certain politicians will feel the need to fill in, dragging the country into more and more divisive heated fights with the help of genuine willing local participants, making the probability of stupid decisions go higher and higher. There should be no talk of China, Marxism or anything that might point to China; I would give them money to attack China actually, well from time to time and in inconsequential ways.

 

[Afif]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752021755995025689

See how weird and crazy she looks when saying that? Now, it wouldn't look as crazy if you knew that Nancy Pelosi has read the article below the day before about Code Pink and its relations to a shady Chinese philanthropist.

A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul (Published 2023)

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

www.nytimes.com

Pelosi has read that, but most Americans who will see her whine about the Chinese when it is just plain normal Americans who are protesting her will not have known about any of that. They will think she's just flailing and accusing anything she can to evade criticism. Most will not take her seriously.

I make the post to underline a point about how Western institutions put pressure on their adversaries, and how China seems to be learning from them. They do lots more of the stuff like China is trying to do here. They do so much of it that it becomes very hard for even professionals to decipher it, let alone the populace. One simple instance is how they can create and amplify social unrest in a flick of a finger because of the networks of media, local actors and elites that they create and sustain, e.g. in the Tibet situation for the past couple of decades. U.S. milked that situation as hard as they could to suddenly completely abandon it when they concluded that the attempts are futile. You can read about the sudden decision to reduce Tibet aid to zero by U.S. government here: https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/did-the-us-just-abandon-tibet/; but it should be noted that the decision was preceded by several years of media silence on the issue.

Now when a country in the periphery and its leaders start ranting about the West and their actors disrupting the country, and start seeing clandestine hands behind every act, their populace cannot and do not take them seriously; this is most of the time warranted as although those clandestine hands do exist, more times than not the politicians will use it only as an excuse to cover their own wrongdoings and mistakes. But just like Pelosi here, they do not realize that most of their populace cannot and will not take these accusations seriously, so using them only can work within the limits of preaching to your own choir, even if that.

Now China seems to be learning, and Russia has been quite successful in creating discord and using culture war debates to look sympathetic to a minority of populace in several European countries. But the more of these playing cards you have in your hand and the more sinister and distant your use of them is, the harder it is to irrefutably trace them back to your adversary in front of the gazing eyes of your population; the paranoia and the evidence that feeds it will make your politicians seem delirious and the frustration will lead them to sound like a broken clock always blaming "China" or some other country. I have not seen any credible connection between BLM and China yet for instance, so it seems they are only at the start of their journey. I think this code pink stuff, the NYT "expose" and the Pelosi reaction are only the first chapter of this new delirium in American politics.

You see what I meant is kind of the opposite of that. You don't hire Marxists as China to do your propaganda. All aspects of that operation ooze amateurism. You help an Indian magnate of sorts and help him establish media targeting Hindutvas, hire known Indian pundits who may question, say, secular nature of the constitution and start dividing. Copy/paste for other divisive issues (and other more niche local issues), argue for the most extreme positions that might have a base of support on the ground, creating demand gaps that certain politicians will feel the need to fill in, dragging the country into more and more divisive heated fights with the help of genuine willing local participants, making the probability of stupid decisions go higher and higher. There should be no talk of China, Marxism or anything that might point to China; I would give them money to attack China actually, well from time to time and in inconsequential ways.

That is a great observation.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1752683569426600224

In order to increase Turkey's influence in the axis of Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger, it sent a delegation to the region under the leadership of Ambassador Ahmet Yıldız. It is also said that among the issues discussed with Mali is the efficient use of natural resources.

 

[Iskander]

Armenia nevertheless decided to change the national anthem and coat of arms. References to the Türkiye Mount Agrydag (Ararat in Armenian) have already been removed from the video version of the anthem broadcast on Armenian public television.
But there is one nuance here: What to do with the head of the Armenian Foreign Ministry Mirzoyan? His name is... Ararat! Should Ankara insist on changing the name of Mr. Ararat Mirzoyan?

 

[Iskander]

T.C. Millî Savunma Bakanlığı

@tcsavunma

Azerbaycan Silahlı Kuvvetlerinde görevli Generaller, Cumhuriyetimizin kurucusu Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’ün ebedî istirahatgâhı olan Anıtkabir’i ziyaret etti.

The generals of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan visited the Anitkabir mausoleum, where the founder of the Turkish Republic Mustafa Kemal Ataturk rests.

 

[Rooxbar]

Reminding people of this old piece.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/defense-minister-its-not-good-for-israel-if-other-countries-get-f-35/

 

[GoatsMilk]

T.C. Millî Savunma Bakanlığı
@tcsavunma

Azerbaycan Silahlı Kuvvetlerinde görevli Generaller, Cumhuriyetimizin kurucusu Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’ün ebedî istirahatgâhı olan Anıtkabir’i ziyaret etti.

The generals of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan visited the Anitkabir mausoleum, where the founder of the Turkish Republic Mustafa Kemal Ataturk rests.

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If anyone is going to have respect for Ataturk, its the soldier.

 

[Kartal1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753488738876100787

 

[Iskander]

NATO is discussing a future without the US.

Politicians in Germany, due to the possibility of Donald Trump returning to the presidency of the United States, began an informal discussion of the prospects for NATO without the United States, writes The New York Times.

And the very next day...

EU wants 'close relationship' with Turkey

The day before, the foreign ministers of the European Union countries gathered in the capital of Belgium, Brussels... One of the issues on the agenda was relations with Turkey.
According to Anadolu, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell said: “We need to interact with Turkey taking into account the Cyprus issue in order to avoid conflicts and expand cooperation. We need to engage more with Turkey, work in areas where our interests coincide, and avoid issues that alienate us."

What suddenly happened?
What!? Oh yes, you are afraid without the USA... What about “Erdogan’s authoritarianism”? Or have you already forgotten everything?
Well, okay, okay, since you're so scared, then hide behind the mighty Sultan...
Türkiye will not leave you orphans in trouble

 

[Asena_great]

NATO is discussing a future without the US.

Politicians in Germany, due to the possibility of Donald Trump returning to the presidency of the United States, began an informal discussion of the prospects for NATO without the United States, writes The New York Times.

And the very next day...

EU wants 'close relationship' with Turkey

The day before, the foreign ministers of the European Union countries gathered in the capital of Belgium, Brussels... One of the issues on the agenda was relations with Turkey.
According to Anadolu, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell said: “We need to interact with Turkey taking into account the Cyprus issue in order to avoid conflicts and expand cooperation. We need to engage more with Turkey, work in areas where our interests coincide, and avoid issues that alienate us."

What suddenly happened?
What!? Oh yes, you are afraid without the USA... What about “Erdogan’s authoritarianism”? Or have you already forgotten everything?
Well, okay, okay, since you're so scared, then hide behind the mighty Sultan...
Türkiye will not leave you orphans in trouble

if they want to improve relationship with turkey they better start with

1) sell Eurofighter
2) recognize Blue homeland
3) recognize Turkish Cyprus as independent country and accept her into EU along with turkey
4) sell air defense system

even doing one of these above is good start to warm the relationship with turkey

 

[GoatsMilk]

out the USA... What about “Erdogan’s authoritarianism”? Or have you already forgotten everything?
Well, okay, okay, since you're so scared, then hide behind the mighty Sultan...
Türkiye will not leave you orphans

What your seeing is the strategy they always use, sticks and carrots. Threaten us, harm us, then just as its reaching boiling point and your ready to do something, or even to just walk away, the kind words come back rinse and repeat. All that happens is we stagnant or regress and our enemies are given years to further their agenda.

Had they just constantly been nasty to us, we would end up walking away from their "alliance/friendship" then they got big problems to deal with, big problems. You would force Turkey onto the side of Iran, Russia and China and considering our geography much of Europe suffer dearly for this.

don't sell us planes, well we got no choice but to buy russian and chinese. OK, your building up greece against us with all sorts of bases, you will be forced to invite russian and chinese bases, maybe even iranian bases into the region. Then their trying to cut you off in the east med, maybe its time to close the boshperous down to europe etc etc.

Its not good for us and this is where they have leverage, but losing Turkey to the east is a great disaster for the Europeans. The problem with Turkish leadership is that they don't really know how to play the game.

 

[Scott Summers]

if they want to improve relationship with turkey they better start with

1) sell Eurofighter
2) recognize Blue homeland
3) recognize Turkish Cyprus as independent country and accept her into EU along with turkey
4) sell air defense system

even doing one of these above is good start to warm the relationship with turkey

5.- ugrade the Custom Union.

 

[Iskander]

DUBAI, February 5. /TASS/. Iran, China and Russia will hold joint naval exercises by the end of March. This was announced by the Commander-in-Chief of the Iranian Navy, Rear Admiral Shahram Irani.

“We also invite other countries to take part in the naval exercises of Iran, China and Russia, which will take place before the end of March,” he was quoted as saying by the Tasnim agency.
Where will it be? Pacific Ocean? Atlantic or already close to Miami? they haven't decided yet.
On land, a testing ground has long been chosen - Ukraine.
Poor country

 

[MhhJA]

The visit of Putin to Turkey was postponed again. The second time since September 2023.
Hakan Fidan had told in an interview that Syria would be the main topic of the negotiations, there was a visit of a russian state plane to Ankara yesterday, my guess is that it were russian diplomats who tried to find an agreement before the meeting of Putin and Erdogan.
Seems like talks have failed.
Our forces in Syria should be extra careful in the next days, we know how treacherous the russians can be.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755276068741931513

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755216687316545900

Good sum of money for reconstruction

"Candidate country"