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Well that youth union has been around since 90s (at least), so I'm guessing he's a veteran. Or he goes with the "40 is the new 20" trend.I am more concerned about the mustache guy being part of 'youth union'.
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Well that youth union has been around since 90s (at least), so I'm guessing he's a veteran. Or he goes with the "40 is the new 20" trend.I am more concerned about the mustache guy being part of 'youth union'.
You are mixing Soviets with USA.If my understanding of the kurdish issue is right, then you are partially wrong
The PKK, in 1991, was officially founded as a political entity that envisioned the formation of Kurdistan on Turkish and other lands by force/military intervention. Such an entity couldnt have been formed without arming, training, finance, and logistics which has all been supplied by the USA; thus, making the USA its maker
From my understanding, it seems that you are talking about the pre-1991 period when those who announced the creation of the PKK like Ocalan was involved in political turmoil with the Turkish state in different forms albeit non-violent in nature.
When I say the US made the PKK; I meant that it was the US who convinced them, radicalised them, and encouraged them to hold a gun and shoot at other soldiers/citizens within the Turkish state which began the period of real havoc and actual blood being spilled as explained in the video shared before
According to Wikipedia, in pre 1991, core PKK members like Ocalan mainly established multiple student organisations that aimed in instilling the false belief that Turks were oppressing kurds. While it was certainly radicalising the minorities in Turkey, it was peaceful in nature with every time the govt closes such institutions, ppl like Ocalan just creates a new one
What to think?Thoughts?
The Turkish Youth Union put a sack on the US soldier on duty on the USS Wasp ship anchored in the port of Izmir.
If you want to harm murderous USA, fine go ahead but use your brain on how to achieve this. Hurting an individual soldier is pointless and acts only as a fuel to anti-turkish sediments. If you want to go after an individual soldier then arrest him for the murder of the kids if he was involved in it. But better yet, become a powerfull and independent country to hurt on a strategic level. For example, stop using the dollar.Is this new? I thought this was from a few years ago.
Anyway, respect for those guys to harrass and attack US pedophilian and childkilling marines. Those marines are no hair better than those Syrian and Afghan criminals coming to our country.
Remember the Abu Grayb prison.
and just when trump coming to office these stupid people do this im sure greek armeni and and jewish lobby will have a field day with this video in congressThoughts?
The Turkish Youth Union put a sack on the US soldier on duty on the USS Wasp ship anchored in the port of Izmir.
Congratulations, you just demolished the entire Turkish tourism industry.You are 100% right to the bottom.
But we all know our President cant do anything to them.
So sometimes if your country cant do anything, its good to take little action as people.
You cant beat the USA with this, but at least for a little time those US personnel know they are not safe in Turkey.
Like those Israeli tourists and sport clubs know they are not safe.
Congratulations, you just demolished the entire Turkish tourism industry.
This is seriously underreported because talking about kurdish gangs dominating coastal cities is 'racist'. I expect tourism to tank within 5 years because no one will take their businesses and exile them off like we did in 1999. Year 2000 is still legendary in tourism industry, because state literally cleared this problem and it was like new car smell.The tourism industry was destroyed years ago thanks to our cabdrivers, Kurdish hotel-lords and scamming restaurant owners (1200 lira for 2 cups of juice for example or 900 lira for a lahmacun) and the Youtube floggers who filmed and reported this.
That's too easy..... I don't want to defend or accuse the social or anti-social Kurds as I am of Turkish/Kurdish origin myself. I was born and live in Germany and have a house in Antalya (summer house) since 2006.The tourism industry was destroyed years ago thanks to our cabdrivers, Kurdish hotel-lords and scamming restaurant owners (1200 lira for 2 cups of juice for example or 900 lira for a lahmacun) and the Youtube floggers who filmed and reported this.
That's too easy..... I don't want to defend or accuse the social or anti-social Kurds as I am of Turkish/Kurdish origin myself. I was born and live in Germany and have a house in Antalya (summer house) since 2006.
Prices in general have been extremely high for the last 2 years.
Everyone's greed has increased so that you can eat and drink on the beach + sun lounger, or in a restaurant in the evening and cab money.
They take advantage of the people there and this is not a phenomenon that only this or that person does.
If I didn't have a house with a pool, I would easily have to spend over 2500-3500€ in a hotel for a 3-week vacation with 3 people (my family) including me, and in my opinion that's just too much money for a 3-week vacation in a country like Turkey. My best friend from Kayseri has already made this acquaintance, he spent over 3000€ and he didn't go on a cheap/savings vacation or luxury vacation, but he had to eat out or in the hotel every day, then there's the classic shopping + gifts for the family that costs and the prices in the tourist areas have become really expensive.
And the alternative of going into town and eating out there doesn't help much, because the cab ride there and back makes up for the saving.
Looks like no delays or last minute cancellations. Sisi is set to visit Turkey for the first time since 2014. Multiple topics on agenda from energy, security, trade and a possible big weapons sale.Sisi to visit Turkey as a president for the first time ever since he assumed office after the coup more than 10 years ago. He'll be in Ankara in Sept 4. They have much to discuss like Gaza, Israel, Iran, Gulf, Libya, Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia. As well as further partnerships in energy and defence.
It was always a necessity to keep good relations with Egypt. And with everything going on around the region, process increased momentum. TCG Kınalıada's visit to Egypt instead of Jordan on its return from Japan was also surely related to the rapprochement when it wasn't planned originally. Wonder if Rabia supporters will stage a protest or two against the butcher. I'm sure the Egyptian Ikhwan members residing in Turkey are pretty much in unease right about this moment. Maybe even an extradition treaty is in the works for greater cooperation between two newly found partners.
First of all, I am sorry for the late answer as I am pretty busy these couple of weeks.If my understanding of the kurdish issue is right, then you are partially wrong
The PKK, in 1991, was officially founded as a political entity that envisioned the formation of Kurdistan on Turkish and other lands by force/military intervention. Such an entity couldnt have been formed without arming, training, finance, and logistics which has all been supplied by the USA; thus, making the USA its maker
From my understanding, it seems that you are talking about the pre-1991 period when those who announced the creation of the PKK like Ocalan was involved in political turmoil with the Turkish state in different forms albeit non-violent in nature.
When I say the US made the PKK; I meant that it was the US who convinced them, radicalised them, and encouraged them to hold a gun and shoot at other soldiers/citizens within the Turkish state which began the period of real havoc and actual blood being spilled as explained in the video shared before
According to Wikipedia, in pre 1991, core PKK members like Ocalan mainly established multiple student organisations that aimed in instilling the false belief that Turks were oppressing kurds. While it was certainly radicalising the minorities in Turkey, it was peaceful in nature with every time the govt closes such institutions, ppl like Ocalan just creates a new one
That being said, it would be pure delusion to think that Armenians didn't back PKK at some point. May be intelligence, financial, training or outright armaments. But Armenia is a small country, I doubt it was ever a main factor.The "PKK was actually created by armenians" is nothing more than an islamist conspiracy theory, trying to paint a picture of "muslim brotherhood" against "christians that try to divide us". Same logic as labeling everyone they don't like as "secret zionists".
Both armenian and kurdish nationalists quite literally claim the same parts of Turkey as theirs, they would be at each others throats if it weren't for them having Turks as a unified enemy. Even then, they don't see eye-to-eye.
1.- Is there a chance that the PKK was born from ASALA or is a continuation from ASALA? Because they look similar, but the PKK has a more 'heroic' look and better public relations office (women members, lgbt's, foreign volunteers etc).
2. - Is there a chance that Abdullah Öcalan is a covert-up or a Armenian? Because his surname is very surreal: Öcalan means 'revenge taker' or 'avenger'. Mostly pawns from the intelligence choose such names. Because Öcalan's past and his carreer is very mysterious and partly unknown and he doesnt have any charisma and isnt handsome, so how could so much people follow him?
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