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It's fucking 2025 and i still see people mentioning joining the EU, we know this will not happen, the turkish goverment knows that will never happen and the europeans know that they will never let Turkey join, let's fucking move on. Turkey will never be let into the EU without major concessions such as giving autonomy to "some certain minorities", giving up on Cyprus issue and sucking to Greek ass over Aegean and Israeli and Cyprus ass over Mediterranean.


What Turkey should do regardless if it joins the EU or not is that it should improve it's democratic roots and reset to Republic settings instead of AKP nepotism.
What Turkey is doing correct, now, is that it's trying to diversify it's export market to other than EU, such as ASEAN, MENA, Latin America and increase it's trade capacity with the US.

The Europe's ruling elite is simply living in another reality to come to fair deal with Turkey, what do you expect of the EU when "it's ruled" by Von der Leyen.

Once the Palestinians have been completely destroyed/murdered by Isreal, expect EU membership to be offered to Iseal. Some Turks will claim how can you offer Isreal membership but not us, the Europeans will parrot bullshit about judeo-christian values etc. The point im making is that you are correct, its all about geopolitical advantage. The EU at its core is an imperial project which hides behind nonsense like "values" and "superior morality". The "values" narratives and such are not just about bullshitting Turkiye, its also about bullshitting 90% of the EU nations who are forming her vassals too.

Hungary gives Europe a small taste of what is to come, you either accept what germany/france want or you will be ostracised. But the EU doesn't have total power or control yet over her smaller vassals, but she's working on it.

Cyprus, Into Isreal will give the EU direct control/access to the east med and middle east. Its partly why the EU is helping Isreal. Arabs were so dumb for supporting the greeks against the Turks in Cyprus. Turks its also why the EU will never recognise the north, they want to use cyprus to cut you out your backyard.

Just like the recent Turkic nations disgraced themselves, Muslims must understand that any action their nations and people take to undermine Turkiye, ultimately in the long run will undermine the entire Islamic world.

 
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Nah come on mate. It won't happen.

You already did something similar in Cyprus. Cyprus is nothing compared to Isreal. And the greeks don't even have 1% of the power and influence that Zionism has over Europe. Truth be told Zionism is more powerful and influential in europe then any of her individual members.

If germany wants something, but the zionists want something else, my money is on the zionists getting it.
 

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Why? Israel has nothing to earn with an EU membership.

Because Isreal can then easily and openly use the political and diplomatic as well as economic weight in her favour. Isreal won't enter the EU as a vassal state like most members, she will enter it as a controlling partner. Zionism already picks and chooses many leaders in europe. Despite the UK not being in the EU anymore we even get leaders openly declaring that they are zionists.

At the end of the day Jews are smart, they are organised, they know how to dominate business. As movement they are one of the most powerful entities on earth.

Failure to recognise this is why i think most Muslims who have gone up against Isreal lose, they fail to understand the power and influence of their enemy. They see that power but they don't really understand what it means.
 

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Once the Palestinians have been completely destroyed/murdered by Isreal, expect EU membership to be offered to Iseal. Some Turks will claim how can you offer Isreal membership but not us, the Europeans will parrot bullshit about judeo-christian values etc. The point im making is that you are correct, its all about geopolitical advantage. The EU at its core is an imperial project which hides behind nonsense like "values" and "superior morality". The "values" narratives and such are not just about bullshitting Turkiye, its also about bullshitting 90% of the EU nations who are forming her vassals too.

Hungary gives Europe a small taste of what is to come, you either accept what germany/france want or you will be ostracised. But the EU doesn't have total power or control yet over her smaller vassals, but she's working on it.

Cyprus, Into Isreal will give the EU direct control/access to the east med and middle east. Its partly why the EU is helping Isreal. Arabs were so dumb for supporting the greeks against the Turks in Cyprus. Turks its also why the EU will never recognise the north, they want to use cyprus to cut you out your backyard.

Just like the recent Turkic nations disgraced themselves, Muslims must understand that any action their nations and people take to undermine Turkiye, ultimately in the long run will undermine the entire Islamic world.

Why don't we hear anyone parroting about despotism, dictatorism and some countries being not "democratic" in this case, i wonder?

Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.
 

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Why? Israel has nothing to earn with an EU membership.
It does
With Israel's accession into the EU, Israel will be able to legitimately force not only the US but also the whole West to fight for it if Israel was ever attacked by the other nations considering that they are the most hated nation in the Med East and probably one of the most hated worldwide

Moreover, it provides further legitimacy of a unified Israel on palestinian lands; i-e, official recognition that there was, is, and will never be something called Palestine

Finally, for Europe, it will be the gateway to the Med East's enormous resources especially when you put into consideration that EU in general lacks raw materials and energy. Having an EU member controlling such factors is a gift from God in EU's eyes. This is also one of the numerous reasons why they support Greece's and Cyrpus's maximalist demands against Turkey; since having such lucrative resources under EU territory is better than importing it from Turkey and giving Turkey a pressure card against Europe
 

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Why don't we hear anyone parroting about despotism, dictatorism and some countries being not "democratic" in this case, i wonder?

Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.
No one has published a scale of so-called "European values." Obviously, the first point here is the geopolitical interests of the so-called First World countries. European leaders are used to manipulating them ("values") like master gamblers.
 
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Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.

Hungary has acted against the interests of fellow EU members for too long, and it is working as a Trojan Horse inside the EU at the command of Putin. It’s about time they are put in their place and stripped of their voting power, until they come to their senses and stop being traitors.

They should have been expelled from the EU long time ago, considering how much they abused their position and how hostile they are to their neighbors.
 

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Why don't we hear anyone parroting about despotism, dictatorism and some countries being not "democratic" in this case, i wonder?

Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.

Nigel Farage is no doubts a shithead and unlike most Europeans he's at least an "open" enemy of Turkiye, but i cant lie his days as an EU mep really exposed what a load horseshit the EU is.

 

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