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It's fucking 2025 and i still see people mentioning joining the EU, we know this will not happen, the turkish goverment knows that will never happen and the europeans know that they will never let Turkey join, let's fucking move on. Turkey will never be let into the EU without major concessions such as giving autonomy to "some certain minorities", giving up on Cyprus issue and sucking to Greek ass over Aegean and Israeli and Cyprus ass over Mediterranean.


What Turkey should do regardless if it joins the EU or not is that it should improve it's democratic roots and reset to Republic settings instead of AKP nepotism.
What Turkey is doing correct, now, is that it's trying to diversify it's export market to other than EU, such as ASEAN, MENA, Latin America and increase it's trade capacity with the US.

The Europe's ruling elite is simply living in another reality to come to fair deal with Turkey, what do you expect of the EU when "it's ruled" by Von der Leyen.

Once the Palestinians have been completely destroyed/murdered by Isreal, expect EU membership to be offered to Iseal. Some Turks will claim how can you offer Isreal membership but not us, the Europeans will parrot bullshit about judeo-christian values etc. The point im making is that you are correct, its all about geopolitical advantage. The EU at its core is an imperial project which hides behind nonsense like "values" and "superior morality". The "values" narratives and such are not just about bullshitting Turkiye, its also about bullshitting 90% of the EU nations who are forming her vassals too.

Hungary gives Europe a small taste of what is to come, you either accept what germany/france want or you will be ostracised. But the EU doesn't have total power or control yet over her smaller vassals, but she's working on it.

Cyprus, Into Isreal will give the EU direct control/access to the east med and middle east. Its partly why the EU is helping Isreal. Arabs were so dumb for supporting the greeks against the Turks in Cyprus. Turks its also why the EU will never recognise the north, they want to use cyprus to cut you out your backyard.

Just like the recent Turkic nations disgraced themselves, Muslims must understand that any action their nations and people take to undermine Turkiye, ultimately in the long run will undermine the entire Islamic world.

 
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Nah come on mate. It won't happen.

You already did something similar in Cyprus. Cyprus is nothing compared to Isreal. And the greeks don't even have 1% of the power and influence that Zionism has over Europe. Truth be told Zionism is more powerful and influential in europe then any of her individual members.

If germany wants something, but the zionists want something else, my money is on the zionists getting it.
 

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Why? Israel has nothing to earn with an EU membership.

Because Isreal can then easily and openly use the political and diplomatic as well as economic weight in her favour. Isreal won't enter the EU as a vassal state like most members, she will enter it as a controlling partner. Zionism already picks and chooses many leaders in europe. Despite the UK not being in the EU anymore we even get leaders openly declaring that they are zionists.

At the end of the day Jews are smart, they are organised, they know how to dominate business. As movement they are one of the most powerful entities on earth.

Failure to recognise this is why i think most Muslims who have gone up against Isreal lose, they fail to understand the power and influence of their enemy. They see that power but they don't really understand what it means.
 

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Once the Palestinians have been completely destroyed/murdered by Isreal, expect EU membership to be offered to Iseal. Some Turks will claim how can you offer Isreal membership but not us, the Europeans will parrot bullshit about judeo-christian values etc. The point im making is that you are correct, its all about geopolitical advantage. The EU at its core is an imperial project which hides behind nonsense like "values" and "superior morality". The "values" narratives and such are not just about bullshitting Turkiye, its also about bullshitting 90% of the EU nations who are forming her vassals too.

Hungary gives Europe a small taste of what is to come, you either accept what germany/france want or you will be ostracised. But the EU doesn't have total power or control yet over her smaller vassals, but she's working on it.

Cyprus, Into Isreal will give the EU direct control/access to the east med and middle east. Its partly why the EU is helping Isreal. Arabs were so dumb for supporting the greeks against the Turks in Cyprus. Turks its also why the EU will never recognise the north, they want to use cyprus to cut you out your backyard.

Just like the recent Turkic nations disgraced themselves, Muslims must understand that any action their nations and people take to undermine Turkiye, ultimately in the long run will undermine the entire Islamic world.

Why don't we hear anyone parroting about despotism, dictatorism and some countries being not "democratic" in this case, i wonder?

Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.
 

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Why? Israel has nothing to earn with an EU membership.
It does
With Israel's accession into the EU, Israel will be able to legitimately force not only the US but also the whole West to fight for it if Israel was ever attacked by the other nations considering that they are the most hated nation in the Med East and probably one of the most hated worldwide

Moreover, it provides further legitimacy of a unified Israel on palestinian lands; i-e, official recognition that there was, is, and will never be something called Palestine

Finally, for Europe, it will be the gateway to the Med East's enormous resources especially when you put into consideration that EU in general lacks raw materials and energy. Having an EU member controlling such factors is a gift from God in EU's eyes. This is also one of the numerous reasons why they support Greece's and Cyrpus's maximalist demands against Turkey; since having such lucrative resources under EU territory is better than importing it from Turkey and giving Turkey a pressure card against Europe
 

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Why don't we hear anyone parroting about despotism, dictatorism and some countries being not "democratic" in this case, i wonder?

Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.
No one has published a scale of so-called "European values." Obviously, the first point here is the geopolitical interests of the so-called First World countries. European leaders are used to manipulating them ("values") like master gamblers.
 
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Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.

Hungary has acted against the interests of fellow EU members for too long, and it is working as a Trojan Horse inside the EU at the command of Putin. It’s about time they are put in their place and stripped of their voting power, until they come to their senses and stop being traitors.

They should have been expelled from the EU long time ago, considering how much they abused their position and how hostile they are to their neighbors.
 

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Why don't we hear anyone parroting about despotism, dictatorism and some countries being not "democratic" in this case, i wonder?

Hungary is using it's democratic right to oppose anything that doesn't suit them, the hypocrisy of the EU is out of this world.

Nigel Farage is no doubts a shithead and unlike most Europeans he's at least an "open" enemy of Turkiye, but i cant lie his days as an EU mep really exposed what a load horseshit the EU is.

 

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No such option,is there?

There is no such option because so far the EU has tried to work on consensus, but it is obvious that such a system is very limited in what it can achieve, especially when you have a higher number of countries involved.

The rules need to be adapted to the current reality. The EU clearly needs an upgrade that would make it more functional, and reduce the veto power that enables bad actors to block initiatives that have wide support. The EU needs to switch to a majority, or at least a qualified majority system, if it wants to be able to get anything done.

Orban and Fico have shown that the consensus system can be easily abused by foreign agents.
 

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A unionist region within Somaliland was recognized as a new federal state by Mogadishu a couple weeks ago. It's the region in blue.

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It's a particularly important region as it is disputed by the two main northern clans and Mogadishu usually tries to stay out of their disputes but has decided not to anymore.

Somalia and Turkiye have signed a deal to explore our onshore oil reserves a couple weeks ago and it seems like it has been ratified by the Turkish parliament today. The region in question is one of those territories which will be explored. Apparently thousands of Turkish soldiers should come soon with the first 400 having arrived a few days ago.

 

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The interesting thing here is that for that region to be properly explored the south will need to be stabilized, Puntland will need to be put in its place and Somaliland will need to be put down. Basically what I'm saying here is that the recently signed oil deal will demand for the end of the civil war on the federal government's terms to be properly implemented.

In this region, countries usually do not announce deals such as this one without being very sure that it can be implemented quickly which is what has us puzzled here. It seems like Ankara and Villa Somalia know something the general Somali public does not know.
 
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The more talk there is about ending military action in Ukraine, the more often Russian media have begun to threaten Kazakhstan.



"Preparing for war: Kazakhstan to deploy the largest group of territorial defense brigades on the border with Russia"

The lower house of the Kazakh parliament has approved the draft law "On territorial defense" (TD). It implies the deployment of the largest TD group on the border with Russia, which will include at least eight brigades, in which foreigners can also serve. Moreover, the developers of the bill note that it can be perceived as Kazakhstan's preparation "for military action.
The Majilis (lower house of parliament) adopted the new law almost unanimously. As follows from the text of the document, the purpose of the bill is "to increase the defense capability of the Republic of Kazakhstan", as well as "to ensure the security of its population, facilities and territory during martial law and wartime."
For this, at least one TRO brigade will be created in each of the 20 regions of the country. The law does not specify the exact number of units, but it is noted that foreigners or stateless persons can serve in them as volunteers. For this, at the request of the country's Minister of Defense, they can receive Kazakh citizenship in a simplified manner.
Also, based on the bill, Russia is apparently perceived as one of the main potential threats to Kazakhstan and the majority of territorial defense brigades - eight out of 20 - will be deployed on the border with the Russian Federation. The Russian-Kazakh border is 8 thousand km long. is the longest land border in the world.
For comparison, only five brigades will be deployed on the border with Uzbekistan, another four on the border with China, and the rest will cover the border of Kazakhstan with Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan.
In addition, the forces of the TRO will have to participate in the "defense of designated lines, including in the border area of Kazakhstan", as well as in the "fight against the enemy's landing and sabotage and reconnaissance forces and terrorist groups", and in the event of "a temporary seizure (occupation) of territory by the enemy, to wage armed struggle against him" or, in other words, to become partisan detachments..."



The Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan denies

"In connection with publications in a number of foreign media outlets concerning the draft Law of the Republic of Kazakhstan "On Territorial Defense", the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan considers it necessary to provide official clarifications in order to prevent distortion of facts and unfair interpretations.

This bill is aimed solely at strengthening the country's internal security and does not contain any anti-Russian sentiment.

"Russia is a strategic partner of Kazakhstan, with which good-neighborly and allied relations are maintained within the framework of the CSTO, CIS, SCO and the Eurasian Economic Union.

Thus, the allegations about the allegedly anti-Russian orientation of the draft Law "On territorial defense" of the Republic of Kazakhstan do not correspond to reality and distort the essence of the ongoing processes.

We ask citizens and the media not to pay attention to various arguments appearing on information resources and social networks, but to trust official sources of information," the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan notes.

 
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The more talk there is about ending military action in Ukraine, the more often Russian media have begun to blackmail Kazakhstan.



"Preparing for war: Kazakhstan to deploy the largest group of territorial defense brigades on the border with Russia"

The lower house of the Kazakh parliament has approved the draft law "On territorial defense" (TD). It implies the deployment of the largest TD group on the border with Russia, which will include at least eight brigades, in which foreigners can also serve. Moreover, the developers of the bill note that it can be perceived as Kazakhstan's preparation "for military action.
The Majilis (lower house of parliament) adopted the new law almost unanimously. As follows from the text of the document, the purpose of the bill is "to increase the defense capability of the Republic of Kazakhstan", as well as "to ensure the security of its population, facilities and territory during martial law and wartime."
For this, at least one TRO brigade will be created in each of the 20 regions of the country. The law does not specify the exact number of units, but it is noted that foreigners or stateless persons can serve in them as volunteers. For this, at the request of the country's Minister of Defense, they can receive Kazakh citizenship in a simplified manner.
Also, based on the bill, Russia is apparently perceived as one of the main potential threats to Kazakhstan and the majority of territorial defense brigades - eight out of 20 - will be deployed on the border with the Russian Federation. The Russian-Kazakh border is 8 thousand km long. is the longest land border in the world.
For comparison, only five brigades will be deployed on the border with Uzbekistan, another four on the border with China, and the rest will cover the border of Kazakhstan with Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan.
In addition, the forces of the TRO will have to participate in the "defense of designated lines, including in the border area of Kazakhstan", as well as in the "fight against the enemy's landing and sabotage and reconnaissance forces and terrorist groups", and in the event of "a temporary seizure (occupation) of territory by the enemy, to wage armed struggle against him" or, in other words, to become partisan detachments..."



The Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan denies

"In connection with publications in a number of foreign media outlets concerning the draft Law of the Republic of Kazakhstan "On Territorial Defense", the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan considers it necessary to provide official clarifications in order to prevent distortion of facts and unfair interpretations.

This bill is aimed solely at strengthening the country's internal security and does not contain any anti-Russian sentiment.

"Russia is a strategic partner of Kazakhstan, with which good-neighborly and allied relations are maintained within the framework of the CSTO, CIS, SCO and the Eurasian Economic Union.

Thus, the allegations about the allegedly anti-Russian orientation of the draft Law "On territorial defense" of the Republic of Kazakhstan do not correspond to reality and distort the essence of the ongoing processes.

We ask citizens and the media not to pay attention to various arguments appearing on information resources and social networks, but to trust official sources of information," the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan notes.


i'm sure the orthodox greeks, the biggest russian cheerleaders after the serbs in the europe can help them out.

But in all seriousness, its imperative that the Turkish military moves into Kazakhstan and builds their military up.
 

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The more talk there is about ending military action in Ukraine, the more often Russian media have begun to blackmail Kazakhstan.

This is another reason why it is imperative that everyone supports Ukraine with weapons in order to defeat Russia. Now that the US is on Putin’s side, the rest of the world needs to get its act together and push for more military aid.

Trump’s “peace” plan is desgined in the Kremlin and must be rejected by Ukraine. For them to be able to reject it, they need a lot more support from the rest of the world, because they will soon lose the military and intelligence support they currently get from the US.

If Ukraine is forced to cave and accept Krasnov’s “peace” plan, Russia will rebuild its military in two years, and they will start another invasion considering they already have lots of combat experience and their economy is in war mode. Kazakhstan’s huge border with Russia makes it extremely vulnerable.
 

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