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Arab countries have turned their backs on Putin

«The Russian-Arab summit scheduled for October 15 in Moscow will not take place. Vladimir Putin's meeting with the leaders of the League of Arab States (LAS) was canceled after key participants canceled their visit to Russia.
In mid-October, the Kremlin was preparing to become the stage for a grand spectacle entitled "Russia and the Arab World: A New Axis." But when the curtain rose, it became clear that there was practically no one to take the stage.
The main actors—the emirs and kings for whose benefit this spectacle was staged—politely referred to events dictated by Washington. As a result, the grand summit, intended to demonstrate the breadth of Russian influence to Donald Trump, turned into a rehearsal with a single lead actor.
They preferred not to risk their seats in Trump's box to participate as extras in Putin's performance. Arab leaders are well aware of where the "pie table" is. And in October 2025, they made their choice: better to be Trump's junior partners than co-authors of Putin's geopolitical phantasmagorias with unclear benefits but obvious risks.»

Dumb action by those Arab leaders,now they are US stooges forever,they will accept the Abraham accords which will put them in a difficult situation in the future.
GCC leaders,Al Sisi,the Moroccan king all they think about is their reign,nothing else.
The Arab people are waking up,no more silencing them with benefits and money.
 
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Let's tune in to the devil for a bit.
Just out of curiosity: Do you mean the DW is the devil or the traitor they are interviewing? That guy is advocating Turkey's dismissal from Nato, and working hard for US and Israel interests. Such people should not be allowed to enter Turkey.
 

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Just out of curiosity: Do you mean the DW is the devil or the traitor they are interviewing? That guy is advocating Turkey's dismissal from Nato, and working hard for US and Israel interests. Such people should not be allowed to enter Turkey.
DW is the devil, Sinan is just a rat. He'll be dying in US.
 

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Only Eastern block countries have voted for help, but the rest of them was against protection :D. We should boost our defence fast.
 

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I hate this reality.

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To many it might have seemed like Germany finally came to their senses, realized the security needs of contemporary geopolitics and taking a position to seek for a new security structure for Europe.
Not for me.

The reality:
The US kicked Europe’s butt, told them they’re on their own, set a fire in their pants.
I wouldn’t want be in a European security structure where Turkey is not an EQUAL partner.
I wouldn’t wanna be in a European security structure where Germany calling the calls, pulling the strings, making decisions and telling Turkey what to do, when to do, where to do to protect their safety.
I wouldn’t want a European security structure where the top dog Germany who harbor, nurture, finance terrorist organizations killing Turkish citizens and financing, supporting tarikat cells in Germany.

The days of lesser partner of NATO who humbly supposed to wait for allies arrival after holding USSR for 48 hours is gone.

However, it won’t go my way. The reality is something else. We’ll agree to their terms in return of some PR concession. That’s it.
As Sanchez put it, I hate this reality!
 

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To many it might have seemed like Germany finally came to their senses, realized the security needs of contemporary geopolitics and taking a position to seek for a new security structure for Europe.
Not for me.

The reality:
The US kicked Europe’s butt, told them they’re on their own, set a fire in their pants.
I wouldn’t want be in a European security structure where Turkey is not an EQUAL partner.
I wouldn’t wanna be in a European security structure where Germany calling the calls, pulling the strings, making decisions and telling Turkey what to do, when to do, where to do to protect their safety.
I wouldn’t want a European security structure where the top dog Germany who harbor, nurture, finance terrorist organizations killing Turkish citizens and financing, supporting tarikat cells in Germany.

The days of lesser partner of NATO who humbly supposed to wait for allies arrival after holding USSR for 48 hours is gone.

However, it won’t go my way. The reality is something else. We’ll agree to their terms in return of some PR concession. That’s it.
As Sanchez put it, I hate this reality!

Its basically the give and take approach. They see us as an enemy, but at the same time they cannot afford to make us a total enemy. Just imagine if we were not NATO, we didnt oppose Russia in the caucases, syria, libya, didnt arm Ukraine with critical drones. Today Russia probably has annexed a few eastern nations. Once that happens the Europeans are going to start selling each other out to appease the Russians as they have done throughout time. If you remember lots of cowardly europeans nations were already writing Ukraine off before the start of the invasion.

Its not in Turkish interests anymore to see a complete defeat of Russia in Ukraine, a complete defeat for Russia would only mean the Europeans start behaving worse to us. Its best the Europeans always have that Russia fear and that fear that Turkiye could side with them one day.

Turkiye is no longer a small nation of 10 million, its big enough to become her own deterrent especially within 10 years or so.
 

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Its basically the give and take approach. They see us as an enemy, but at the same time they cannot afford to make us a total enemy. Just imagine if we were not NATO, we didnt oppose Russia in the caucases, syria, libya, didnt arm Ukraine with critical drones. Today Russia probably has annexed a few eastern nations. Once that happens the Europeans are going to start selling each other out to appease the Russians as they have done throughout time. If you remember lots of cowardly europeans nations were already writing Ukraine off before the start of the invasion.

Its not in Turkish interests anymore to see a complete defeat of Russia in Ukraine, a complete defeat for Russia would only mean the Europeans start behaving worse to us. Its best the Europeans always have that Russia fear and that fear that Turkiye could side with them one day.

Turkiye is no longer a small nation of 10 million, its big enough to become her own deterrent especially within 10 years or so.
Would completely agree if it was not proven on many occasions over decades that “Europe; economically a giant, politically a midget, and militarily a bug”.

Capacity vs capability, competence, determination.
 

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As if Turkey would really rely on Germany and Co. – that's just PR. Turkey will continue to go its own way and keep one foot in every important organisation or alliance – be it NATO, the EU, BRICS+ or the SCO.

At the same time, it will invest heavily in research, development and production – both in the civil and military sectors.

There is a fundamental lack of trust between Turkey and the EU, including Germany – and that goes both ways. So there is no need to worry: the Turkish government is anything but naive. If it were, Turkey would not be where it is today – with an independence rate of around 80–85%.

Don't forget: Germany came to Turkey to do business – not the other way around.
 

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Germany wants something. We want something.

We need customs-union updates at first. Before we sign any concessions to benefit Nazi-Germany.
 
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As if Turkey would really rely on Germany and Co. – that's just PR. Turkey will continue to go its own way and keep one foot in every important organisation or alliance – be it NATO, the EU, BRICS+ or the SCO.

At the same time, it will invest heavily in research, development and production – both in the civil and military sectors.

There is a fundamental lack of trust between Turkey and the EU, including Germany – and that goes both ways. So there is no need to worry: the Turkish government is anything but naive. If it were, Turkey would not be where it is today – with an independence rate of around 80–85%.

Don't forget: Germany came to Turkey to do business – not the other way around.
We cant just end such relations,we know they cant be trusted but we can use that knowledge in our favor in such relations.
 

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