TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[TR_123456]

Guys, what's your ideas about the claims that shows Türkiye among the Suadi & Pakistani pact on X platform?

Officially it is seen as a strategic move but in reality it is just a Saudi move to keep the UAE Israel cooperation against the KSA in check.
When Turkiye and Pakistan are involved the UAE Israel air evaporates immediately,they know it we know it and the whole world knows it.
Remember Qatar and the Turkish base there.

 

[mehmed beg]

What time we are living in, Saudis and Houthis becoming friends .

 

[Huelague]

Guys, what is your idea about the claims that shows Türkiye among the Saudi & Pakistani pact on X platform?

Put Egypt into it, and I will like it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2009683708157276332

 

[Yasar_TR]

Get back to the main topic of the tread before your posts are deleted please.

 

[AlperTunga]

Get back to the main topic of the tread before your posts are deleted please.

Just for me to understand: why are the above messages off-topic? they don't seem far off to me. This thread is about geopolitics, and this is inevitably linked to history. Many topics here are interlinked. If we do molecular level decomposition of topics, we cannot exchange any views here meaningfully. But you'd be right of course if we discuss the characteristics of a 6th generation jet engine in geopolitics thread. Please explain what is bothering you?

 

[AlperTunga]

Guys, what is your idea about the claims that shows Türkiye among the Saudi & Pakistani pact on X platform?

If Saudis are strongly committed at a broad and more strategic level (not only seeking some help for Yemen etc.) this can be a powerful alliance. Pakistan has nuclear bombs, a large military, and some technology (intelligent engineers there). Saudis have enormous finances but they also want to develop some technology and has been working on it. Türkiye can sell 200 KAANs to Saudis, 100 of which to be operated by turkish pilots. These would be available to Saudis in case of conflict, but also to help Türkiye in case of war with Greece or Israel. We can have military bases in SA. Many other effective cooperation ideas can be developed.

 

[King_West]

I hope our army and MIT is ready to intervene in Iran if necessary. We cannot aford another PKK seperatist state. Im 100% confident they will try to balkanize Iran.

 

[mehmed beg]

Some sort of alliance is welcomed with Pakistan, as of Bedounship of Saudi Arabia, I don't care. I care about Hejjaz.
Those people are not to be trusted apart from some temporary agreements in some particular geographic locations and events.
Forget about that stink

 

[Pilatino]

In an ideal World I'd rather an alliance with the Turkic States as the locomotive of it in asia but when I come to reality a cold alliance with KSA and Pakistan is a must in these dark days. We tend to romanticise alliance ideas on our mind but this is not an ideal time for dreams or wishes.

A lot of danger and risks lurking around us the latest will be Iran and an average Turk can imagine the possible upcoming events from there, I'd like to see a free South Azerbaijan state and even some kind of confederation of Oguz Turks but again in reality we'll see another Terroristan next to us...

Sometimes I ask myself WTF they do in that huge buildings in Ankara, why we can't act like we dream but I know the answer, we have enough power to destroy games but not strong enough to create our own yet so I repeat I really want to see that alliance with KSA & PK till we gain enough power I hope... That alliance wouldn't bring glorious victories but would give us the time that we need.

 

[Sanchez]

Heavy diplomacy going on behind the curtains. Fidan met with Barrack, talked to Iran two times and today is in UAE all in 36 hours.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2011361576218153287

I think Turkey is pushing for reforms in Iran to avoid a US strike and things going out of hand more.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Heavy diplomacy going on behind the curtains. Fidan met with Barrack, talked to Iran two times and today is in UAE all in 36 hours.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2011361576218153287

I think Turkey is pushing for reforms in Iran to avoid a US strike and things going out of hand more.

Probably the USA wants to get Iran quickly out of the way so they can then fully concentrate on Turkiye.

From an isreali perspective all regional muslim nations have been cucked. Iran is face down with her ass up in the air waiting to be f'ked, then its just Turkiye. A country unlike the rest of the Muslims in the middle east that has a serious army with a rapidly advancing military industry.

You knock Turkiye down and its going to be zionist owned middle east for a long long time to come. And the shit you seen take place in gaza is likily to spread across the entire region.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2011347470115094932

One thing i always personally noticed about the pkk leadership is how they looked like armenians. Does anyone have a deeper understanding about whether or not its true that much of the PKK leadership is crypto-armenians?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2011347470115094932

One thing i always personally noticed about the pkk leadership is how they looked like armenians. Does anyone have a deeper understanding about whether or not its true that much of the PKK leadership is crypto-armenians?

It is known that the PKK has substituted ASALA since its birth and was a de facto extension of it.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2011347470115094932

One thing i always personally noticed about the pkk leadership is how they looked like armenians. Does anyone have a deeper understanding about whether or not its true that much of the PKK leadership is crypto-armenians?

This is nothing new. Half of the PKK and YPG are almost all Armenians, and the other half are Druze and misguided ultra-left communist Kurds from Syria, Iraq, Iran and the farthest corners of Turkey. Very few of these ultra-left communists are Sunni Kurds maybe under 3-5%, i mean the Kurmanci Kurds (biggest kurdish population in Turkey).
Most of PKK/YPG are Armenian, Druze, Zaza Kurds, 80-90% of whom are of Alevi or Jews, Christian Origin.

 

[Sanchez]

This is nothing new. Half of the PKK and YPG are almost all Armenians, and the other half are Druze and misguided ultra-left communist Kurds from Syria, Iraq, Iran and the farthest corners of Turkey. Very few of these ultra-left communists are Sunni Kurds maybe under 3-5%, i mean the Kurmanci Kurds (biggest kurdish population in Turkey).
Most of PKK/YPG are Armenian, Druze, Zaza Kurds, 80-90% of whom are of Alevi or Jews, Christian Origin.

There's no data to prove any of these claims.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

I am of Turkish-Kurdish origin and am familiar with the nuances. There are three Kurdish branches

Kurmanci -> Sunni Kurds, the vast majority of Kurds in the heartland, most of whom are related or related by marriage to Turks (the largest group) in the central south-east of Turkey, some of whom are also represented in Iraq. Predominantly hostile and opposed to the PKK/YPG.

Zaza -> Alevi or Christian Kurds, predominantly in Iraq, Syria, Iran and the extreme south-east of Turkey, e.g. in Dersim, Bingöl, partly also in Hatay and Malatya, Batman & Co. Ambivalent towards the PKK/YPG, difficult to classify. Many of them are also of Armenian Christian descent.

Sorani -> mainly in Iraq and western Iran, no roots in Turkey, mostly Shiites, but also some Sunnis, very distant towards the PKK/YPG.

I'm not saying that all of this data is 100% accurate, but it's definitely heading in that direction.

 

[TR_123456]

This is nothing new. Half of the PKK and YPG are almost all Armenians, and the other half are Druze and misguided ultra-left communist Kurds from Syria, Iraq, Iran and the farthest corners of Turkey. Very few of these ultra-left communists are Sunni Kurds maybe under 3-5%, i mean the Kurmanci Kurds (biggest kurdish population in Turkey).
Most of PKK/YPG are Armenian, Druze, Zaza Kurds, 80-90% of whom are of Alevi or Jews, Christian Origin.

Yeah,i dont get the Druze part?
Why the hell would the join the PKK,for what reason or goal?

 

[TR_123456]

I am of Turkish-Kurdish origin and am familiar with the nuances. There are three Kurdish branches

Kurmanci -> Sunni Kurds, the vast majority of Kurds in the heartland, most of whom are related or related by marriage to Turks (the largest group) in the central south-east of Turkey, some of whom are also represented in Iraq. Predominantly hostile and opposed to the PKK/YPG.

Zaza -> Alevi or Christian Kurds, predominantly in Iraq, Syria, Iran and the extreme south-east of Turkey, e.g. in Dersim, Bingöl, partly also in Hatay and Malatya, Batman & Co. Ambivalent towards the PKK/YPG, difficult to classify. Many of them are also of Armenian Christian descent.

Sorani -> mainly in Iraq and western Iran, no roots in Turkey, mostly Shiites, but also some Sunnis, very distant towards the PKK/YPG.

I'm not saying that all of this data is 100% accurate, but it's definitely heading in that direction.

I have had some encounters with the PKK in Germany,most of them were Kurmanci and Zaza never seen a Sorani.
They tried to extort money from Turkish and Kurdish business owners in Dusseldorf.
They tried.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Yeah,i dont get the Druze part?
Why the hell would the join the PKK,for what reason or goal?

Because these are minorities... Minorities usually behave this way; this is not a new anomaly in the political history of mankind. The least represented in a country shout the loudest. Furthermore, the Jews (Druze) are not exactly high on the popularity scale when it comes to choosing their allies. Therefore, they take the bloc that is closest to them.

See India -> Armenia -> Greece/Cyprus -> Israel. The Indians have zero cultural points in common with these countries, let alone any form of religion.
Nevertheless, they certainly do not join forces with them strategically out of love for their neighbour.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."