TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Pilatino]

Guys, what is your idea about the claims that shows Türkiye among the Saudi & Pakistani pact on X platform?

 

[TR_123456]

Guys, what's your ideas about the claims that shows Türkiye among the Suadi & Pakistani pact on X platform?

Officially it is seen as a strategic move but in reality it is just a Saudi move to keep the UAE Israel cooperation against the KSA in check.
When Turkiye and Pakistan are involved the UAE Israel air evaporates immediately,they know it we know it and the whole world knows it.
Remember Qatar and the Turkish base there.

 

[mehmed beg]

What time we are living in, Saudis and Houthis becoming friends .

 

[Huelague]

Guys, what is your idea about the claims that shows Türkiye among the Saudi & Pakistani pact on X platform?

Put Egypt into it, and I will like it.

 

[Okaber]

For them being a Shia is much more important than being a Turk. This is my impression. That's why they are siding with the Persians. If they didn't, I don't understand why the "turkish" part of Iran Tebriz etc. which is also geographically neighboring to us, does not belong to Turkiye. On the other hand, unfortunately, for many Turks in Türkiye being a Muslim is much more important than being a Turk.

But Turks' weak attachment to their identity and the fact that they don't support each other is well-known. Look at all these so-called "Turkic" countries. They don't like Türkiye Turks much either. So in the great power games of the 21st century we are sort of alone. It does not work with Muslims, but does not work with the Turkic identity either.

Because religion and religious identity was more important back in the day, ethnic identity being more important is a new thing.

Also, do you realize that even East Anatolia becoming a part of Ottoman Empire happened after 1500s? Before that, it was ruled by Qara Qoyunlu and Aq Qoyunlu. By the time Ottomans started to expand eastward Azerbaijan was already Shia, so it makes perfect sense why Azerbaijanis never became a part of Turkey.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2009683708157276332

 

[Anastasius]

Regarding "Turks" in Iran. they have always been on the side of Persians, and against us in the history (Remember Shah Ismail). They identify themselves much more with Iran. They will never unify with Azeribagcan, nor will they be of any good for Türkiye.

Shah Ismail actually wanted to ally with the Ottomans and called upon shared Turkic heritage as a gesture of friendship. It was the Ottomans who were overly obsessed with Sunni vs. Shia mentality and prevented this. Ottomans even resettled Sunni Kurds in areas that were previously populated by Shia Turks who were banished to Iran.

 

[Ryder]

Shah Ismail actually wanted to ally with the Ottomans and called upon shared Turkic heritage as a gesture of friendship. It was the Ottomans who were overly obsessed with Sunni vs. Shia mentality and prevented this. Ottomans even resettled Sunni Kurds in areas that were previously populated by Shia Turks who were banished to Iran.

Shah Ismail actually supported Shia and Alevis proxies in Anatolia also they butchered Sunni Kurds which caused a refugee crisis into the Ottoman Empire.

For the Ottomans it was a easy choice to use the Kurds as proxies to fight against Shah Ismail.

Shah Ismail also butchered the Uzbek Khan. Forcefully made Iran into a Shia stronghold.

If the Ottomans were so thing about Sunni Islam as lot of people claim they would have not gone into the Middle East fight the Sunni Mamluks and the Sunni Anatolian Beyliks.

Im not seeing the Ottomans as the good guys here same with Shah Ismail his not a good guy either. Its not black and white. But its common for people to shit on the Ottomans for doing geopolitics.

 

[Iskander]

Shah Ismail actually supported Shia and Alevis proxies in Anatolia also they butchered Sunni Kurds which caused a refugee crisis into the Ottoman Empire.

For the Ottomans it was a easy choice to use the Kurds as proxies to fight against Shah Ismail.

Shah Ismail also butchered the Uzbek Khan. Forcefully made Iran into a Shia stronghold.

If the Ottomans were so thing about Sunni Islam as lot of people claim they would have not gone into the Middle East fight the Sunni Mamluks and the Sunni Anatolian Beyliks.

Im not seeing the Ottomans as the good guys here same with Shah Ismail his not a good guy either. Its not black and white. But its common for people to shit on the Ottomans for doing geopolitics.

Before Shah Ismail, Iran was not a Shiite state. The ruler of the Ag Koyunlu dynasty, Uzun Hasan (Ismail's maternal grandfather), waged war on the Ottoman Empire not for religious reasons, but for more prosaic reasons that had nothing to do with heaven. Both states claimed rights to Trabzon on the Black Sea and Garaman on the Mediterranean Sea, as well as other territories. Venice fueled the rivalry between the two Turkic states and supported Hassan by promising him cannons (NATO standard ) in which the Ottomans had a significant advantage if his army reached the Mediterranean.
Shah Ismail made Shiism the state religion and continued the work of his grandfather. However, these efforts also proved unsuccessful.

 

[mehmed beg]

Mamluks in Egypt were very passive when it came to confronting Portuguese incursions into Red Sea, kind of Emirates, no?
Anyway, I think at Caldirn it was Bosnian contingent which scored victory, hehehe.
Sultan Selim Khan, may Allah SWT be pleased with him did a good job there.
In any case, it is not just the sectarianism ( though I am one) but all those sects came about out objective or subjective grievances with the central authorities. Kind of people, someone needs to destroy.
In any case, as I mentioned before, if the threat questions the existence of so called Islamic Republic, Mullahs must annihilate those people.
Whichever way you look, the sea of blood is unavoidable.
As these demonstration shows and many other events also, these things have the flavour of cultish behaviour.
As Hadith says, Dajjal will come from Esfahan. I have a good reason to believe that many Irgc commanders come from Esfahan.
Many of the events point out to some predicted things from the past, wether people want to admitted or not.

 

[Ryder]

Before Shah Ismail, Iran was not a Shiite state. The ruler of the Ag Koyunlu dynasty, Uzun Hasan (Ismail's maternal grandfather), waged war on the Ottoman Empire not for religious reasons, but for more prosaic reasons that had nothing to do with heaven. Both states claimed rights to Trabzon on the Black Sea and Garaman on the Mediterranean Sea, as well as other territories. Venice fueled the rivalry between the two Turkic states and supported Hassan by promising him cannons (NATO standard ) in which the Ottomans had a significant advantage if his army reached the Mediterranean.
Shah Ismail made Shiism the state religion and continued the work of his grandfather. However, these efforts also proved unsuccessful.

It sucks how all the Turkic Empires fought against each other. Both Pre Islamic and Post Islamic.

The Turkic mentality is Only One Can be Khan.

This influences todays geopolitics in the Turkic World.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Get back to the main topic of the tread before your posts are deleted please.