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Agreed.Rather than focusing on establishing a joint military posture, we need to demonstrate how this can foster a consensus on economic and regional interests. Will Egypt and Turkiye sign a joint EEZ agreement in the Eastern Mediterranean? Will Saudi Arabia and Turkiye sign a framework agreement on the New Hijaz Railway and energy corridor? It’s not just from our perspective. There are certain steps that need to be taken to build trust even between Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
True deterrence emerges when countries align their interests and mutual dependence deepens. A military alliance framework is a natural extension of this, not the starting point. Most things that begin with grand rhetoric in this region are nothing more than empty talk with a lifespan as short as a few tea parties.
Do we seriously need to care what the West or Israel labeling us at this point?To be widely dismissed by the West after unofficially labeling it a Sunni axis.
To be joyfully embraced by Israel as a threat towards the existence of it after officially labeling it as an evil axis of anti-Semite and anti-Israel.
Also this looks like High card at poker. No pairs. No set of three. Üç benzemez.
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Ankara is planning to build Oil refinery by 2027 in Mogadishu
As Türkiye’s CagriBey drill ship started his activities in Somalia waters, Ankara is planning to build an oil refinery which has capacity of more than 50,000 to 200,000 BPD.
Once the size and quality of the oil is determined via direct sampling and lab tests, which determine the type of the refinery needed, a financing model will then be discussed with Somali, Turkish and international stakeholders, often involving government bodies, major #energy companies, international regulatory agencies and local lawmakers.
On average, a medium refinery with 50,000–200,000 bpd capacity costs around $4-6 billion depending on complexity and takes up to 5 years before it’s fully operational, complete with storage areas and a tanker terminal. It would create direct employment for ~1000 Somalis 70% blue collar plus open 5000 additional jobs in the vicinity as “side industry” covering transportation, security, plastics, petrochemicals, recycling, housing, social services, construction, etc. Much of the oil would be exported around the world via sea routes, but new pipelines and or trucking lines would also take finished products gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, etc to the rest of Somalia and inland into East African markets.
At 90% average utilization 180,000bpd, such an enterprise could generate Mogadishu $7-8.5 billion of additional gross revenue per year based on moderate pre-Iran War oil prices, funding all kinds of development across the country.
We expect to hear the first official announcement for such a refinery in early 2027, and if all goes well on the financing and regulatory side, its construction to begin by late 2028
What will she do when she sees this photo?
I kind of agree with you. There's some sort of preparation of war/conflict of some kind against Turkiye. But, remember it will mostly be located maybe in Syria or Africa.I told you that the agenda that has been targeting Turkey and turkish Goverment and the Turkish population (Citizens) in Germany and Europe since 2015—and which relies on a negative portrayal—is a prelude to a military conflict. It won’t happen immediately, but in 6 to 8 years, given the situation in the Aegean, it’s very, very realistic.
When examining the European security architecture, one must set aside Great Britain—which is pursuing an independent course regardless, due to its separate MoUs with Turkey and its withdrawal from the EU. The focus, rather, is on the core of the EU: Germany, France, Austria, Scandinavia, the Benelux countries, as well as Greece and Cyprus. A growing interest is coalescing here to secure the gas and oil reserves in the Aegean as a central European energy resource project.I kind of agree with you. There's some sort of preparation of war/conflict of some kind against Turkiye. But, remember it will mostly be located maybe in Syria or Africa.
Also point about the dehumanization of Turks in Germany, in UK it's different, Turks are seen in a positive light by the British, but of course the Jewish Media tries to portray us in a negative light although it's not working.
I told you that the agenda that has been targeting Turkey and turkish Goverment and the Turkish population (Citizens) in Germany and Europe since 2015—and which relies on a negative portrayal—is a prelude to a military conflict. It won’t happen immediately, but in 6 to 8 years, given the situation in the Aegean, it’s very, very realistic.
What do you think of an "Alliance" of some sort with UK, Spain and Italy? I mean, I'd rather them than any nation that's basically a slave to US in the Middle East.A clear rift is emerging within the EU: While states such as Spain and Italy adopt a pragmatic stance and seek to avoid escalation within NATO, pressure is mounting among the other group to assert their sovereignty in the region.
Do you honestly they'd exclude us Turks from any defence alliance ? I mean, who the hell in Europe is going to stop what they're doing and be readily./happily die fighting Russians? I don't see it man. Not even Europe is that stupid.The Future Scenario:
I posit that in the event of a US withdrawal from its leadership role in NATO, the EU will strive for a fundamental realignment. The current rearmament phase is structured around a six-to-eight-year timeline. The objective is to establish a purely European defense alliance PESCO following this consolidation, one that systematically excludes Turkey.
I don't know, all this seems a little far-fetched for me. I truly do not see any EU Defence bloc without Turkiye involved.In this scenario, NATO would exist merely pro forma until the EU member states withdraw collectively to create an independent security architecture. The strategic objective here is not direct warfare, but rather a long-term, coordinated containment of Turkish ambitions in the Aegean—flanked by a close security alliance with Israel.
Only Jews see it that way though. The average Northern European don't really think nothing of Muslims like Turks.. They just don't want the Asian kind in their countries that openly show hatred to the native populations.what better way then to show them as backward savage islamists incompatible with western values. Same thing was done to Iran, but Iran today is being destroyed. Our turn is yet to come.
Well, this is another topic, AK Party was mostly supported by the EU. I remember it all "we want to join EU". never happened and here we are , still stuck with them. Which also damaged our reputation in the world this damn EU application.Under AK party its very easy to paint Turkiye as the bad guy, no one in the west likes Muslims, their caricature of them is basically your dark skinned bearded turban wearing taliban type. Its an easy image for the white west to hate. To them its the sign of everything negative.
Mostly Jews though. You know they run Hollywood not sure we should blame Europeans for this.Even the movie midnight express they tried to show Turkiye as an islamist hellhole as part of the dehumanisation process.
Should be back being a Church, imagine how much those anti-Turks would be pissed if we did that?Turning the agia sophia into a mosque during a period where hatred for Muslims in the west is rapidly on the rise is another example of either stupidity or open treason.
Only Jews see it that way though. The average Northern European don't really think nothing of Muslims like Turks.. They just don't want the Asian kind in their countries that openly show hatred to the native populations.
Well, this is another topic, AK Party was mostly supported by the EU. I remember it all "we want to join EU". never happened and here we are , still stuck with them. Which also damaged our reputation in the world this damn EU application.
Mostly Jews though. You know they run Hollywood not sure we should blame Europeans for this.
Should be back being a Church, imagine how much those anti-Turks would be pissed if we did that?
I live in England, Muslims are generally despised. If you can pass as a white European you will hear their most intimate thoughts on the issue. If your brown faced then naturally most of them are not going to "openly" say they hate you. Its a bit like when im around english and they openly mock the indians behind their backs despite being "friends" with them.
EU has 27 members. How many are "friendly" to us and how many not?EU will always see Turkiye as a rival and a threat.
But you are blonde,i dont get it?I somehow pass for Spanish (Hispanic) and Italian btw, so they feel more comfortable around me![]()
Well blonde hair, white complexion is quite common among Northern ItaliansBut you are blonde,i dont get it?![]()
Most of these Brits have family members with a house in Turkiye, I never ever experienced any hatred for being a Turk. I don't look brown so maybe thats why? Either way, I don't see why we cannot form relations with UK.I live in England, Muslims are generally despised. If you can pass as a white European you will hear their most intimate thoughts on the issue. If your brown faced then naturally most of them are not going to "openly" say they hate you. Its a bit like when im around english and they openly mock the indians behind their backs despite being "friends" with them.
Iranians hate all Muslims though, they just use Shia as a tool to have an excuse. You really do not need Europeans to give Iran a reason to want to kill Sunnis etc.Supported by the same western entities. FETO backed AK party 100%. Islamist agenda was hijacked from day one, no different to what happened to Iran. Destroy secularism and Muslims will start murdering each other across the sects. Just look at how the fanatical shias of iran or wahhabists of saudi behave. Everyone is an enemy and the most minor of differences is enough to kill over.
Eurojews do have a hatred for all things Turkish, this is not a surprise. but most Northern European are indifferent to us. Most wouldn't even know where our country is for goodness sake.Europeans push the exact same propaganda about the PKK that the Americans do. Freedom fighters... I've seen Czech cartoons for kids that dehumanises the Turkish people and Islam. Google one called "Turkish moon".
In UK you would struggle to find "Christian" practicing Brits, so why would they care?Ideally it should have been left alone. Plenty of Churches in Turkiye, the europeans never gave us any positive press over it. Had we turned it into a church, they wouldn't report it.
I can ask about how many Muslim countries are friendly towards us... almost zero.EU has 27 members. How many are "friendly" to us and how many not?