France's Macron: Social media platforms should help tame violence amid riots

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It is said that most of the rebels in France are of French origin, and Muslims are in the minority. The media, on the other hand, has blamed the whole incident on immigrants and Muslims.

In general since 9/11 we have seen an incremental ratcheting up of the narrative against Muslims. Not only have Muslims done nothing to counter this, we have an abundance of political islamists who only help in pushing this narrative. Under the guise of being Muslim and for the Muslims everything they say and do helps the agenda against Muslims.


This uneducated political islamist is one of the most famous dawah grifters in the UK pushing fanatical nonsense. Muslims have a billion problems right now, worrying about apostasy laws shouldn't even be on their minds. But by going into these things they help show Muslims as backward fanatics. Then the Muslims who actually listen and looking to these fools for guidance start acting and behaving like them.

All of these islamist grifters are making good money, none of them are in fear of their lives. None of their social media accounts are closed down. This is of course intentional. They are the leaders the western man wants to lead the Muslim of a cliff edge. The leaders they fear are either destroyed or given no platform to promote their ideas.

So while the international media has collectively conducted a hate filled media inquisition against the Muslims in general, the same nations have financed, created and infiltrated all other islamist orders to make sure that the common Muslim is being brainwashed to behave and think like the fanatics they are trying to portray us as.

Look at Turkiye, the one Muslim majority country that was shown as proof that Muslims are not incompatible with ideas of liberty and freedom of thought. The americans pumped billions into groups like FETO to take over the nation. That Islamist order put their entire weight behind erdogan and ak party and brought him to power. Meanwhile the western media supported everything he did to undermine the nation state. Supporting the overthrowing of the military power to protect the constitution, fabricating lies and propaganda against patriots to throw them in jail. All of these treasonous acts were supported by the west.

Then erdogan was turned into the face of the political islamist. The west got what they wanted, now they can show Muslims as the fanatics much easier. Before with the Turks being the real historical threat to europe yet living just fine by the millions in europe, it was hard to denounce islam and muslims.

This image used to be an outlier of the muslim in the west, now its portrayed as the normality.


And have no doubts people like anjem chourdary is a state asset. Western media wants to portray Muslims as isis sympathising fanatics, so they need their agents to play that role. Its all theatre. We have over 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, my own father as a representation of islam would shit completely on all of these so called islamists. But he will never ever be given a platform. They want the world to think we are all fanatics, uneducated raving ulgy looking loons with beards.

Now the image/stereotype of the muslim/islamist in the west is of the raging fanatic.

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The non-Muslim world is being conditioned to despise Islam and Muslims. Just like 9/11 was the perfect excuse for the americans to use their massive military to invade and crush nations. The global dehumanisation of Islam has to be for a reason, its not happening simply by chance. So what is that reason? If we can see whats happened in the last few decades and then have the foresight to run it forward up to 50 years from now, where do you think Islam will be on the global stage?

For constrast this is an example of how a political islamist used to carry himself in the USA. You don't need to agree with him, you dont need believe what he believes, but can you see the difference then and now?


Clean, well dressed, eloquent, intelligent, measured, respectable. This guy was saying some truly fanatical bullshit like the white man is the devil, directly to the white mans face, but at the same time because of his character and the way he carried himself, people would listen and have respect for him. Think about where the political islamist was and where he is today in comparison.
 
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"The various racist groups that are set up in this country by whites. Who have actually practiced violence against blacks for 400 years, are never associated or identified or made synonymous with the term violence. But whites speak of muslims almost synonymously with violence. Whenever muslims are mentioned by them violence is brought up. But its not connected with any other group. This is sort of a propaganda tactic, or what i would call psychological warfare in some way to make the image of the muslims in this country a violent image rather then a religious image.

He says this early in the interview and this was back in 1963. He says that white racists are working hard to make islam look violent and dangerous. Here we are now in 2023, these power structures have they succeeded in making the religion look violent? What happens in anther 50 years of dehumanisation?

Malcolm X was wrong about the common "white" being his enemy. Once he realised his mistake and repented on it and exposed how all these organisations work together to divide the people, basically exposing their was an international agenda at play here that intended to make everyone a slave, he was taken out.

 

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In general since 9/11 we have seen an incremental ratcheting up of the narrative against Muslims. Not only have Muslims done nothing to counter this, we have an abundance of political islamists who only help in pushing this narrative. Under the guise of being Muslim and for the Muslims everything they say and do helps the agenda against Muslims.


This uneducated political islamist is one of the most famous dawah grifters in the UK pushing fanatical nonsense. Muslims have a billion problems right now, worrying about apostasy laws shouldn't even be on their minds. But by going into these things they help show Muslims as backward fanatics. Then the Muslims who actually listen and looking to these fools for guidance start acting and behaving like them.

All of these islamist grifters are making good money, none of them are in fear of their lives. None of their social media accounts are closed down. This is of course intentional. They are the leaders the western man wants to lead the Muslim of a cliff edge. The leaders they fear are either destroyed or given no platform to promote their ideas.

So while the international media has collectively conducted a hate filled media inquisition against the Muslims in general, the same nations have financed, created and infiltrated all other islamist orders to make sure that the common Muslim is being brainwashed to behave and think like the fanatics they are trying to portray us as.

Look at Turkiye, the one Muslim majority country that was shown as proof that Muslims are not incompatible with ideas of liberty and freedom of thought. The americans pumped billions into groups like FETO to take over the nation. That Islamist order put their entire weight behind erdogan and ak party and brought him to power. Meanwhile the western media supported everything he did to undermine the nation state. Supporting the overthrowing of the military power to protect the constitution, fabricating lies and propaganda against patriots to throw them in jail. All of these treasonous acts were supported by the west.

Then erdogan was turned into the face of the political islamist. The west got what they wanted, now they can show Muslims as the fanatics much easier. Before with the Turks being the real historical threat to europe yet living just fine by the millions in europe, it was hard to denounce islam and muslims.

This image used to be an outlier of the muslim in the west, now its portrayed as the normality.


And have no doubts people like anjem chourdary is a state asset. Western media wants to portray Muslims as isis sympathising fanatics, so they need their agents to play that role. Its all theatre. We have over 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, my own father as a representation of islam would shit completely on all of these so called islamists. But he will never ever be given a platform. They want the world to think we are all fanatics, uneducated raving ulgy looking loons with beards.

Now the image/stereotype of the muslim/islamist in the west is of the raging fanatic.

rageboy.jpg


The non-Muslim world is being conditioned to despise Islam and Muslims. Just like 9/11 was the perfect excuse for the americans to use their massive military to invade and crush nations. The global dehumanisation of Islam has to be for a reason, its not happening simply by chance. So what is that reason? If we can see whats happened in the last few decades and then have the foresight to run it forward up to 50 years from now, where do you think Islam will be on the global stage?

For constrast this is an example of how a political islamist used to carry himself in the USA. You don't need to agree with him, you dont need believe what he believes, but can you see the difference then and now?


Clean, well dressed, eloquent, intelligent, measured, respectable. This guy was saying some truly fanatical bullshit like the white man is the devil, directly to the white mans face, but at the same time because of his character and the way he carried himself, people would listen and have respect for him. Think about where the political islamist was and where he is today in comparison.


"The various racist groups that are set up in this country by whites. Who have actually practiced violence against blacks for 400 years, are never associated or identified or made synonymous with the term violence. But whites speak of muslims almost synonymously with violence. Whenever muslims are mentioned by them violence is brought up. But its not connected with any other group. This is sort of a propaganda tactic, or what i would call psychological warfare in some way to make the image of the muslims in this country a violent image rather then a religious image.

He says this early in the interview and this was back in 1963. He says that white racists are working hard to make islam look violent and dangerous. Here we are now in 2023, these power structures have they succeeded in making the religion look violent? What happens in anther 50 years of dehumanisation?

Malcolm X was wrong about the common "white" being his enemy. Once he realised his mistake and repented on it and exposed how all these organisations work together to divide the people, basically exposing their was an international agenda at play here that intended to make everyone a slave, he was taken out.

And yet when I propose proportional counter-response you report my post with reason being "not the way." seems like you like to bitch and moan about it more than doing something about it.

To me, you are a part of the problem.
 

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Despite the complaints, Twitter did not apply any censorship, considering the statements of Patrick Jardin, one of the former parliamentary candidates of the French far-right politician and writer Zemmour's party, "We are in power soon and we can start an unprecedented ethnic cleansing".


French far-rightists now openly advocate ethnic cleansing.
 

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And yet when I propose proportional counter-response you report my post with reason being "not the way." seems like you like to bitch and moan about it more than doing something about it.

To me, you are a part of the problem.

Bruh making reports up because he caught feels and can't hang with different opinions you hate/love to see it wallahi HONK HONK
 

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Despite the complaints, Twitter did not apply any censorship, considering the statements of Patrick Jardin, one of the former parliamentary candidates of the French far-right politician and writer Zemmour's party, "We are in power soon and we can start an unprecedented ethnic cleansing".


French far-rightists now openly advocate ethnic cleansing.

in time it will come, how long who knows. But when the French deploy their military with the right to shoot to kill these north africans/muslims will be the first to flee the country.
 

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Bruh making reports up because he caught feels and can't hang with different opinions you hate/love to see it wallahi HONK HONK

His proposal was counter productive, the west wants violence and conflict, they need it to ferment and grow support for far right groups and their radical ideas. Without all this violence and destruction they cannot justify far right politics, but with it grows and prospers.

And one day when european armies say enough is enough, these groups are all done, finished. Game over.

Chimping out is easy, but actually fighting a real army, no chance.

If Muslims want to win in Europe/West, educated your kids, make sure they succeed. Enter politics, beau racy, the military, become an entrenched and influential member of the said nation, enter the media, work hard make money, this is how the jewish people won in the west despite being less then a drop in the ocean.

Running around burning cars, destroying property, firing guns in the air, is how you lose and lose big time.

As Turks we have a history of being the very definition of a tough warrior like people and in the end we lost to the west when we controlled our own armies. The idea that minorities with no state power are going to change something in Europe is lunacy. Understand the game and play accordingly.

Remember no one gets more excited at a so called islamist terrorist attack then a right wing goon. Because each time it happens they know its a powerful influential tool to not only justify their position but to brings others towards it. The one group that feels the most nervous and anxious when a so called islamist commits a terrorist attack is the Muslims themselves, why? Because muslims know everytime a terrorist attack occurs things get harder for them, the prejudice and racial hatred against them increases.

Everytime an incident occurs here in the UK, the common Muslim is saying to himself "please don't let it be a muslim".
 
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Let me add something else, Malcolm X was against a shooting war, not because he was against the idea of black Muslims fighting for their rights. But because he knew the black Muslims would be outgunned and outmanned and as a result lose a shooting war. So he advocated against it.

Now these black Muslims of the nation of Islam were organised, intelligent, disciplined and capable nothing like the rioters right now in France. Who behave no better then a Mob.

So you have a choice, do you want to win or do you want to lose? If Muslims want to continue losing, keep doing as we have been doing for the past 300 years. If you want to win, the first thing you have to do before you do anything is educate yourself. If you are unable to educate yourself stay away from this game, you will only make things worse for yourself and everyone else suffering from the situation.
 

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That's an interesting comparison you've brought up. Malcolm X's perspective on strategies for change and empowerment certainly highlights the complexities of these situations. Education and organization seem to be key factors in creating lasting positive change. Speaking of strategies, have you ever thought about how to buy instagram likes and how it could relate to the dynamics of online influence and engagement? It's fascinating how different approaches can have far-reaching impacts. Let's hope for progress and understanding in all contexts.
 
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Any idea by who ?
When it comes to France, the list of usual suspects is long. LOL

The French have many sworn enemies, as they are involved in every international issue that does not concern them, like a sauce added to a meal.
 
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