TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Yasar_TR]

Firstly let us calm down a bit.
In the western world, there are only 2 active supersonic trainer aircraft brands; T-38 Talon and KAI-T50
Since T-38 is more or less obsolete, the playing field is open to KAI-T50 at the moment.
Considering the very fact that most modern airforces are aspiring to add supersonic 5th generation aircrafts in to their inventory and will be needing supersonic trainers to prepare their pilots, it is rather a weak argument to say that KAI-T50 is enough for the market needs.

So, for Mr Demiroglu, to state that there is a significant gap in modern trainer requirement is not wrong.
Given that KAI has an early start gives them a distinct advantage with T50 plane. But if Tusas can start building serially produced planes soon, it will bring Hurjet in to the race as well.

 

[Saithan]

Now if only TuAF would order 250 Hürjet we'd both raise the market share of Hürjet of the "potential" market that exists. alas whether we can get an export permit for the engines from the US remains to be seen.

 

[Chocopie]

Firstly let us calm down a bit.
In the western world, there are only 2 active supersonic trainer aircraft brands; T-38 Talon and KAI-T50
Since T-38 is more or less obsolete, the playing field is open to KAI-T50 at the moment.
Considering the very fact that most modern airforces are aspiring to add supersonic 5th generation aircrafts in to their inventory and will be needing supersonic trainers to prepare their pilots, it is rather a weak argument to say that KAI-T50 is enough for the market needs.

So, for Mr Demiroglu, to state that there is a significant gap in modern trainer requirement is not wrong.
Given that KAI has an early start gives them a distinct advantage with T50 plane. But if Tusas can start building serially produced planes soon, it will bring Hurjet in to the race as well.

Boeing Saab’s T7 Red Hawk will soonishly enter the playing field.

Besides that: Mr. Demiroglu was pointing out that Hürjet is a unique design aimed for supersonic trainer AND light attack fighter as well which fills a significant gap. Which is wrong bc T-50 was exactly designed as that: T-50, TA-50, FA-50 and exported for nearly 20 years.

His quote is quite clear, don‘t know why there are so many interpretations added to it.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Boeing Saab’s T7 Red Hawk will soonishly enter the playing field.

Red hawk is subsonic. Can only manage Mach 1.1 in a dive.

Let us put a stop to this argument.
I have read the Turkish news piece regarding Mr Demiroglu’s speech. This is “exactly” what he says:
HÜRJET will fill a big gap in its field. Being supersonic and designed as a training and light attack aircraft, HÜRJET allows for a very wide range of configurations. Hopefully, we will start making deliveries to the Turkish Air Force in 2026.
So let us not add words in to what the guy has said.
He is 100% correct. Remember he is also trying to promote and get in to a market where KAI had free rein.

quote:
HÜRJET kendi alanında büyük bir boşluğu dolduracak. Hem süpersonik olması hem eğitim hem de hafif taarruz uçağı şeklinde tasarlanmış olması HÜRJET'in konfigürasyon açısından çok geniş bir alanda kullanımını sağlıyor. İnşallah 2026 içinde de Türk Hava Kuvvetlerine teslimatlarımızı yapmaya başlayacağız.
unquote.

 

[Chocopie]

Red hawk is subsonic. Can only manage Mach 1.1 in a dive.

Let us put a stop to this argument.
I have read the Turkish news piece regarding Mr Demiroglu’s speech. This is “exactly” what he says:
HÜRJET will fill a big gap in its field. Being supersonic and designed as a training and light attack aircraft, HÜRJET allows for a very wide range of configurations. Hopefully, we will start making deliveries to the Turkish Air Force in 2026.
So let us not add words in to what the guy has said.
He is 100% correct. Remember he is also trying to promote and get in to a market where KAI had free rein.

quote:
HÜRJET kendi alanında büyük bir boşluğu dolduracak. Hem süpersonik olması hem eğitim hem de hafif taarruz uçağı şeklinde tasarlanmış olması HÜRJET'in konfigürasyon açısından çok geniş bir alanda kullanımını sağlıyor. İnşallah 2026 içinde de Türk Hava Kuvvetlerine teslimatlarımızı yapmaya başlayacağız.
unquote.

It slipped my mind that T-7 is only scratching at Mach 1 similar to M346.

I‘m not going to argue further, I used the quote as posted by the Turkish member.
What puzzles me still is how "HÜRJET will fill a big gap in its field" could be "100% correct". For me it sounds misleading.
But I will stop here, brother

 

[bruhman]

Eh. Everybody here is proud of their country, if the sides were switched im sure some Turks would be disgruntled from marketing speech too.

Anyway, peeps why is the t7 subsonic? Other than twin verts compared to hürjet their size is around the same and the engines very much are. What's causing a 0.4 mach difference in speed? They don't look that different.