Boeing Saab’s T7 Red Hawk will soonishly enter the playing field.
Red hawk is subsonic. Can only manage Mach 1.1 in a dive.
It slipped my mind that T-7 is only scratching at Mach 1 similar to M346.
T-7 uses the latest but slightly weaker F404-103 engine variant than T-50 and Hürjet with F404-102 engine. Red Hawk has a much lighter empty weight with modern composite material than older T-50 and could be easily supersonic.
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You are correct; in the face of it, that may not sound correct. Then let me try to explain.
Hahaha, yes it makes sense from a Turkish salesman point of view.You are correct; in the face of it, that may not sound correct. Then let me try to explain.
1. I am sure KAI didn’t think that they will meet the demands of every potential trainer buyer in the world. As more and more countries start upgrading their airforce inventories, the capacity requirement of manufacturing will increase exponentially.
2. Besides, there are countries that KAI may not want to deal with. Also there may be countries that do not want to deal with KAI.
3. If there were 3,4 or 5 supersonic trainer manufacturers in the world, that statement would be not correct. But with only one supersonic trainer manufacturer, the market is crying for a newcomer. To any salesman, that is a “big gap”.
At least that is my logic. You don’t need to agree with it.
To add to above:T-7 uses the latest but slightly weaker F404-103 engine variant than T-50 and Hürjet with F404-102 engine. Red Hawk has a much lighter empty weight with modern composite material than older T-50 and could be easily supersonic.
Maybe it was a deliberate decision to keep it subsonic for trainer pilots
F404-GE-102:
53.07 kN (11,930 lbf) thrust dry
78.7 kN (17,700 lbf) with AB
F404-GE-103:
49 kN (11,000 lbf) thrust dry
77 kN (17,200 lbf) with AB
They have a naval version though I don't think anyone has bought it yet. Wish we could get Gripens, I love that jet.
Som-J is over 500 kgs, unless Hürjet can carry it under its fuselage I doubt it'll be able to carry it on its wings. It's entire payload is less than 3000 kgs.
then it carries SOM j under its fuselage
In their squadrons with their new stealth fighters, not the training squadrons.
Then why do fighter pilots train with light jets instead of real fighters in their squadrons?
Because Hürjet isn't stealthy and training jet is for training pilots, stealth isn't one bit important for it? And if you're going to try to turn Hürjet stealthy then its geometry would have to change so much that it would barely be the same aircraft in the first place.
Because trainers are designed for that purpose, to train with. An F-16 isn't, nor is Kaan. Making a trainer stealthy is just a waste of resources.
"What are you doing today? I am training to be stealthy."Stealth training aircraft
It doesn't make much sense.
To lower the costs and to mainly give them a platform that is more forgiving than high performance combat aircraft.
Another thought. With the Hürjet becoming active and replacing the ancient T-38s, and with Hürjet being much closer in feel, performance and avionics to F-16 and Kaan, could we maybe cut the number of F-16Ds used for conversion training? And put them through a Sufa like mod package through Özgür-3 to make them deep strike and SEAD monsters? Just a nice thought...
