TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[UkroTurk]

There are a lot of rivals of Hürjet . İf TUSAŞ aims export , they should promise more . Stealthy micro trainer and fighter would be great.

 

[dBSPL]

There are a lot of rivals of Hürjet . İf TUSAŞ aims export , they should promise more . Stealthy micro trainer and fighter would be great.

The development of end-to-end and intra-system communication technologies is increasingly unlocking the potential of distributed system architectures. For example, an airplane with a very modest physical payload can now fly with multiple loyal wing drones and use the systems and munitions on them with extremely high efficiency, as if the airplane itself were carrying them. In the operational scheme of a modern air force, complex systems of systems have been operating for decades, but what I am talking about is the development of artificial intelligence, decision support systems and autonomy, and the gradual sub-layering of these systems into micromanagement. If you are strong in avionics and have full access to yours combat flying platforms, with the right system architecture and doctrine, it is possible to increase the deterrence of aircraft with extremely limited physical capabilities to a previously unimaginable extent.

When I look at the Hürjet, I am always excited by the potential I see. It is not only a milestone that paves the way for the Turkish aviation industry to demonstrate that it can compete at international standards and with the most up-to-date systems, but also a project that is advancing with the requirements of an air force with strong main solution partners and high operational standards. Therefore, I am confident that the Hürjet will take part in numerous experimental studies in the coming decades, and that the product family will develop in a very strategic way over time. And maybe the last Hürjet we will see will have nothing in common with the current Hürjet except its name.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

There are unverified rumours about I Sunnetci’s statement regarding Turkey buying some of the unwanted A400M transport planes. (6 out of 7 with Germany getting the other)

There were news that S Korea was offering Spain their trainer aircraft. Spain came back with a counter offer to give them A400Ms at the 15% price of 27million dollars a piece as a swap deal.

South Korea and Spain seek deal to swap trainer jets for airlifters

The deal may involve about 50 basic and advanced trainer jets built by Korea Aerospace Industries, and four to six Airbus A400M airlifters.

www.defensenews.com

Hurjet was offered to the Spanish.
Hurjet was not brought to Farnborough, because it had to go through urgent upgrades.
Now we are hearing that Hurjet is to go to Spain.

2 x 2 = ???

Any thoughts??

Urgent upgrades don't necessarily have to have negative connotation, the urgency maybe making them in time before sending the jet for evaluation by potential customers.

 

[No Name]

I kept saying that Hurjet should have been designed to make it easy to turn it into a cheap, light stealth fighter, sort of like the Su 75, and it looks like the US is also interested in the idea.

yahoo.com air force floats light stealth fighter.

 

[TheInsider]

There is no competition to Hürjet other than T-50 and T-7. T-50 production lines are full and T-7 faces delays. M-346 is not a direct competitor to Hurjet as it is not a supersonic trainer.

I kept saying that Hurjet should have been designed to make it easy to turn it into a cheap, light stealth fighter, sort of like the Su 75, and it looks like the US is also interested in the idea.

yahoo.com air force floats light stealth fighter.

This concept won't materialize as UCAVs will dominate the light stealth fighter segment.

 

[UkroTurk]

I kept saying that Hurjet should have been designed to make it easy to turn it into a cheap, light stealth fighter, sort of like the Su 75, and it looks like the US is also interested in the idea.

yahoo.com air force floats light stealth fighter.

Nice article


Or Kızılelma should be transformed into manned

‘Light Fighter’ Concept Emerges During US Air Force Chief’s Speech at UK's Air and Space Power Association Amid NGAD’s Uncertain Future

Allvin unveiled what the Royal Aeronautical Society has later defined as a ‘notional Light Fighter concept’ while calling for a shift of the next

theaviationist.com

 

[boredaf]

Nice article


Or Kızılelma should be transformed into manned


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‘Light Fighter’ Concept Emerges During US Air Force Chief’s Speech at UK's Air and Space Power Association Amid NGAD’s Uncertain Future

Allvin unveiled what the Royal Aeronautical Society has later defined as a ‘notional Light Fighter concept’ while calling for a shift of the next

theaviationist.com

And lose every single advantage it has? Future is unmanned, there isn't a single reason to turn KE into a manned fighter, an area Baykar has no experience in, and make it bigger (because it isn't just putting a cockpit and a seat, you have to put a lot more equipment) and more expensive and spend years testing it to end up with a plane that has very low payload or much bigger than KE to have a proper payload. KE's advantage is being relatively cheap when compared to other 5th gen fighters (even if it isn't just as capable) and being unmanned it can pull manoeuvres they cannot. There isn't a single logical reason to turn it into a manned system.

 

[dBSPL]

The only thing we need for the Hurjet is an engine with a physical diameter under 90cm and a dry weight under 1200kg, that can generate around 100kN of emergency power with afterburner. To give an exact equivalent example, the F414-GE-39E developed by GE for Gripen. Everything else is ready or at the test level.

If the light attack platform being developed within the scope of the Hürjet project can be shaped around this class of engine, we will have a platform that can continue its development in the direction of whatever is needed, lets say electronic attack, node for drone wings, reco, light/naval attack jet etc., and whose operating costs and logistics system will be extremely advantageous.

Even with a limited payload, short-range and single-engine platform like Gripen; can respond to many needs. Arming the Hürjet with a one level more powerful engine will enable the emergence of a system that is a direct equivalent of the Gripen NG, which can be a very valuable solution in terms of the economy of an air force that also combats both asymmetric threats and facing very near distance threats but needs around / over 300 front line jets in terms of total fleet size.