TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[Huelague]

Stealth training aircraft

It doesn't make much sense.

"What are you doing today? I am training to be stealthy."

 

[Sanchez]

Then why do fighter pilots train with light jets instead of real fighters in their squadrons?
I am sure next gen jet trainers will be stealth.

To lower the costs and to mainly give them a platform that is more forgiving than high performance combat aircraft.

Hürjet and T-7 are next gen trainers. There's no realistic reason to make a trainer jet harder to control, which is what you will achieve with a stealthy body design.

Because trainers are designed for that purpose, to train with. An F-16 isn't, nor is Kaan. Making a trainer stealthy is just a waste of resources.

Another thought. With the Hürjet becoming active and replacing the ancient T-38s, and with Hürjet being much closer in feel, performance and avionics to F-16 and Kaan, could we maybe cut the number of F-16Ds used for conversion training? And put them through a Sufa like mod package through Özgür-3 to make them deep strike and SEAD monsters? Just a nice thought...

 

[Quasar]

if or When Hürjet as a light attack aircraft happens ''under normal circumtances'' what comes with Hürjet will be modern avionics + AESA radar + wvR missiles+ BVR missiles + almost all Turkish Air to ground ammunitions.... HGK+KGK+minature bomb + even possibly SOM J + ÇAKIR+ KUZGUN.... in export markets HÜRJET is an attractive plane yet a full package HÜRJET is a flash royal in it's class. sometimes it is not just the plane but what comes with it....

and yes ENGINE

Damn be realistic man we are talking about a light attack aircraft please make some sense

 

[Quasar]

Damn be realistic man we are talking about a light attack aircraft please make some sense

shut up and ı forgot to add TRG 230 we will use it on our future AC so what are you planing to arm it with stones and sticks?

 

[Strong AI]

The next step would be to make a trainer jet unmanned.

 

[YeşilVatan]

shut up and ı forgot to add TRG 230 we will use it on our future AC so what are you planing to arm it with stones and sticks?

Why don't we strap some ottoman cannons for good measure. Weight is not a problem appearently.

 

[UkroTurk]

Really why do air forces still need a trainer jet since most of forum members decided there is no place for manned aircrafts?

BTW f-35/f-22 without trained pilots aren't factory stealth.



I have met a lot of clever members for 10 years."he who laughs last laughs longest"

EDIT: peace

 

[Quasar]

Really why do air forces still need a trainer jet since most of forum members decided there is no place for manned aircrafts?

BTW f-35/f-22 without trained pilots aren't factory stealth.



I have met a lot of clever members for 10 years."he who laughs last laughs longest"

Don’t take things personal bro it is late and people may act a bit different in Internet forms… I don’t think anyone has any bad intention. On subject may be instead of a stealth trainer a trainer which may simulate the basics of jet flight and a stealth mission is more economical….and for your young pilots instead of a delicate stealth trainer a kind of work horse and easy to fly trainer is a wiser choice sure this is my opinion

 

[UkroTurk]

How much does stealth fuselage increase cost of Trainer jet? I am not talking about B2's material, i mean, cost of enter level of low RCS material.

 

[boredaf]

How much does stealth fuselage increase cost of Trainer jet? I am not talking about B2's material, i mean, cost of enter level of low RCS material.

Mate, Hürjet is for training pilots before they start flying proper fighters, just as Hürkuş is for people who needs to learn to fly the first time. These planes has to be simple and reliable enough for people to learn to fly, that is their first and foremost purpose. Despite having all the money in the world USAF, for example, still have turboprop trainers (naturally, they are the basic trainers after all) and T-38s and their replacement for T-38 is T-7 which is still an ordinary advanced trainer just like Hürjet.

And, how stealthy a plane is have very little to do with the pilot. It is about its geometrical shape, the materials it was made from and coated with (not just RAM paint but even how well it blends in with background), its sensors, how much heat it gives out, even how loud it is.

Sure, there are differences between flying an F-16 and F-35, but those are because of the difference between two planes. And a pilot who has gone through training and ready to fly an F-35 learns the how fly that plane, on that plane. A stealthy trainer wouldn't help the pilot.

 

[Quasar]

The question is what purpose it will serves


The Purpose of a jet trainer is to improve your young pilots' abilities to operate jet aircraft and to provide them with the necessary skills before moving on to real fighter aircraft.


A funy analogy can be before getting your driver licens you practice with a car provided by driving school under watchfull eyes of an instructer you dont need a fancy car for that purpose


-Most probably what you you expect from your jet trainer is

-high availability rates

-higher tolerances

 

[Zoth]

Then why do fighter pilots train with light jets instead of real fighters in their squadrons?
I am sure next gen jet trainers will be stealth.

Trainer Jets are to teach the pilot all the avionics and the operation systems of similar systems that is also used in more advanced fighter jets. That's the most important part of them, your trainer jet doesn't need to be stealthy because it would add nothing to it. All the stealth training operations are made by with real stealth jets later on with more experienced pilots anyways.