Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Panca]

 

[Umigami]

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US air force F16 has better flight performance but Electronically (I hope) they're kind of the same.

 

[Madokafc]

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Finally both of them carry the exact same load out

 

[Ravager]

Who the hell posting the picture of Xenia li and Avanza velos side by side up there ??

Kalian sangat lah tidak peka ....



** Syukuri apa yg ada . Hidup adalah anugrah ...

 

[Madokafc]

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QinetiQ’s Target Systems business signed a contract to supply 59 unmanned Banshee Whirlwind targets to Indonesia in May 2019.
The equipment has now been delivered and the customer training has been completed and signed off.

The Banshee is powered by QinetiQ’s rear-mounted rotary engine and provides flight profiles of over 100 km, reaching flight altitudes of over 7,000 metres, while a radar altimeter allows the target to achieve reliable sea skimming flight as low as five metres.
“The order is evidence that despite the growing demand for unmanned next-generation transonic and supersonic targets that QinetiQ is designing, developing and bringing to market for customers – for example, the Next-Generation Banshee (Banshee NG) launched last year at DSEI – earlier models from the Banshee family of targets are still in demand from many customers. QinetiQ’s portfolio of unmanned targets for sea, air and land, enable countries to train with moving unmanned targets as opposed to static targets, to be more prepared for adversary threats.”

QinetiQ delivers 59 Banshee Whirlwind targets to Indonesia

QinetiQ's Target Systems business signed a contract to supply 59 unmanned Banshee Whirlwind targets to Indonesia in May 2019.

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[flogger]

About "come into force " rafale "kontrak" wich has been singend in 7 of june is the france had lern about the su 35 case aside the CAATSA thing wich is the indonesian LAW of constitution about TOT ,ofsset, and or counter trade wich can took to long and "mbulet thing". So they dont want to expirence that they give us till december to clear that up. Or the contrac will null. And i think it ok if they want it that way beside france offer is come with bank guarantee so up to us how to clear the things up regard

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404609490729652225

 

[trishna_amrta]

About "come into force " rafale "kontrak" wich has been singend in 7 of june is the france had lern about the su 35 case aside the CAATSA thing wich is the indonesian LAW of constitution about TOT ,ofsset, and or counter trade wich can took to long and "mbulet thing". So they dont want to expirence that they give us till december to clear that up. Or the contrac will null. And i think it ok if they want it that way beside france offer is come with bank guarantee so up to us how to clear the things up regard

Good info Thanks

 

[Lordimperator]

"mbulet thing"

I could see bureaucrats's smirk

 

[Madokafc]

Primary weapons system upgrade will be future need-oriented: Air Force​

15th Jun 2021 20:32

Belitung, Bangka Belitung Isla (ANTARA) - Air Force Chief of Staff, Marshal Fajar Prasetyo, has said that any upgrade of the Air Force’s primary weapons system (alutsista) will be future need-oriented.

"Looking ahead, we have envisaged what our (primary weapons system) will look like," he said after attending an exercise between Air Force Operational Command (Koopsau) I and Wing I of the Special Force (Paskhas), code-named Jalak Sakti, and Hardha Marutha I at the Air Weapon Range (AWR) in Buding, Belitung district, Bangka Belitung Islands province on Tuesday.

He said the plan to rejuvenate the primary weapons system has been discussed, but it is the Defense Ministry that has the authority to decide on it.

The Air Force has only projected its needs and qualifications in accordance with the existing primary weapons system as well as future requirements, Prasetyo said.

"Indeed, we need to rejuvenate the primary weapons system in the future, but that is the authority of the Defense Ministry. We only propose the need,” he added.

During Tuesday’s exercise, the Air Force operated its newest primary weapons system, including two F-16 fighters of the e-MLU (enhanced Mid-Life Up grade) type, he informed.

"As we have just witnessed, the F-16 e-MLUs have shown the result and the targeting has been very accurate," he said.

Despite the COVID-19 pandemic, the Air Force has continued to conduct exercises as part of efforts to maintain the air sovereignty of the Unitary Republic of Indonesia, he added. (INE)

Related news: Air Force plans to buy used F-15s, Dassault Rafale

Related news: PT DI delivers Super Puma chopper to Air Force



Translated by: Kasmono/Suharto
Editor: Yuni Arisandy Sinaga

Primary weapons system upgrade will be future need-oriented: Air Force

Air Force Chief of Staff, Marshal Fajar Prasetyo, has said that any upgrade of the Air Force’s primary weapons system (alutsista) will be future ...

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[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404890201265086466

US or just LM ?

 

[Umigami]

🌏Pesawat tempur F-16, melaksanakan misi OULUD dan OUSUS. #tniau #swabhuwanapaksa #jauhdilangitdekatdihati #puspentni #airmenradio #airmentv #jagakesehatan | By TNI Angkatan Udara | Facebook

🌏Pesawat tempur F-16, melaksanakan misi OULUD dan OUSUS. #tniau #swabhuwanapaksa #jauhdilangitdekatdihati #puspentni #airmenradio #airmentv #jagakesehatan

fb.watch

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404890201265086466

US or just LM ?

 

[San.geuk]

some poster in def*talk gives his opinion about our rafale aquisition , he seems clear mind and reasonable about price, logistic, training and interoperability but then carried out when he's talk about MoD,

as a supporter for rafale aquisition what is your opinion to counter f16v, what make us better to choose rafale than viper in technical aspects ?

 

[Umigami]

some poster in def*talk gives his opinion about our rafale aquisition , he seems clear mind and reasonable about price, logistic, training and interoperability but then carried out when he's talk about MoD,

as a supporter for rafale aquisition what is your opinion to counter f16v, what make us better to choose rafale than viper in technical aspects ?

For me rafale plus are:
- NATO standard, Link 16.
- better design (delta canard configuration is aerodynamically better)
- Newer design, has more future.
- huge range of weaponry.
- good range. (Rafale with 3 drop tank has better range than Flanker)
- Spectra! Scalp-eg! Capability to do preemptive strike if we have to.
- fredom of use, No ITAR. I doubt French have anything to say if we use them in papua.

Min are:
- new species, new OEM, new standard: bigger investment.
- more debt.

But I think it's worth it.

 

[Umigami]

Can rafale use AMRAAM or able to integrate that new turkish BVRAAM?

I think rely only on Meteor for BVR aspects is too expensive and risky for us (many people said boron based fuel in Meteor has short lifespan)

 

[Umigami]

some poster in def*talk gives his opinion about our rafale aquisition , he seems clear mind and reasonable about price, logistic, training and interoperability but then carried out when he's talk about MoD,

as a supporter for rafale aquisition what is your opinion to counter f16v, what make us better to choose rafale than viper in technical aspects ?

Link please?

 

[Parry Brima]

some poster in def*talk gives his opinion about our rafale aquisition , he seems clear mind and reasonable about price, logistic, training and interoperability but then carried out when he's talk about MoD,

as a supporter for rafale aquisition what is your opinion to counter f16v, what make us better to choose rafale than viper in technical aspects ?

Since SU-35 is out of the picture (at least for now), the option is not Rafale vs F-16V but more like :

1. Rafale + F16V, or
2. Rafale + F15EX

or if we're using very loose interpretation of @Madokafc wink then there's another option :

3. Rafale + F35

 

[R4duga]

some poster in def*talk gives his opinion about our rafale aquisition , he seems clear mind and reasonable about price, logistic, training and interoperability but then carried out when he's talk about MoD,

as a supporter for rafale aquisition what is your opinion to counter f16v, what make us better to choose rafale than viper in technical aspects ?

the advantage i can see from procuring F-16V is , better commonality , possible US EDA for a dozen of C/D variants (this one is big advantage in dire need situation right now) , MRO is going to be easy since our skatek and aerospace SOE already had both infrastructure and piece of experience on it , training for the new pilot would be easy too .

buying french rafale may lead to loosen US weapon system dependency grip on indonesia "possibly" in the long run .

 

[Lordimperator]

loosen US weapon system dependency grip on indonesia "possibly" in the long run .

KfX will be used mbda missike right?