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About what they're talking about, just use your imagination.
 

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With this many joint stock of AMRAAM C7, there is chance we can armed future fighter adequately. As there is possibility to adding more NASAAM units in near future
 

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With this many joint stock of AMRAAM C7, there is chance we can armed future fighter adequately. As there is possibility to adding more NASAAM units in near future
I got this from Kongsberg website:

NASAMS employs the Raytheon AMRAAM as the baseline missile, identical to the AMRAAMs used on fighter aircraft. The dual-use concept has operational advantages and reduces logistics cost.


I wonder if it's really "plug and play" where you can just put the AMRAAM from the fighter and put it into NASAMS or vice-versa, without changing any configuration.
 

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Excuse me sire, may i ask a stupid question here, hoping for enlightment.

Why would we still need (pushed for) of S 70 "Blackhawk" if we had newer improve and modernized the NAS 332C1+, infact that both helos has almost same capability, and currently all NAS 332 in our inventory still has good condition.

For comparison, SoKor also use it's own version of AS 332 for their workhorse.
 

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if we really want eagle EX, next procurement for AMRAAM and Winder (and other munitions) should be in the thousands. Even hundreds would be too low
 

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if we really want eagle EX, next procurement for AMRAAM and Winder (and other munitions) should be in the thousands. Even hundreds would be too low
Having the numbers of available payloads it's a good start. Obviously we need AEW&C to track targets for all those payloads from beyond the horizon. There is little point of having all those payloads if they have to get close in to "see" the target with their own radar.
 

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DOD Officials Describe Conditions in Indo-Pacific​

March 15, 2021 | BY Jim Garamone , DOD News



The Indo-Pacific has always been a region of superlatives, but the terms have changed over the past decades.
Now people talk about the Indo-Pacific being a "region of consequence," "the priority theater," or the "global economic engine."



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For decades, the U.S. military has recognized the importance of the theater. U.S. Indo-Pacific Command covers 51 percent of the globe. The region has 60 percent of the world's population. The United States and China are the world's largest economies. The most soldiers, the biggest navies, the longest distances, most endangered and much, much more. There are hundreds of languages and cultures and environments.
China is the pacing challenge for the United States military, and service members must respond — but it's not the only challenge in the region.
"We've all had these concerns for decades — the rising China, [North Korea], Russia, violent extremist activities — but their scope, volume, scale are much more problematic," said a senior defense official.
Added to all this is the issue of climate change, which touches fundamentally on many of the island nations of Oceania. Also a problem is that this is the Ring of Fire, where tectonic plates collide causing volcanoes, earthquakes and tsunamis. Top it off with COVID-19 and the global pandemic, and there is a complex brew of problems and issues.
China, Russia, North Korea and violent extremism are in the Indo-Pacific and operate there every day. The threats are a direct challenge to the mission of the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command to provide freedom and mobility for commerce in the region, to support good governance, and to deter aggression.
The best weapon in the arsenal is the U.S. network of allies and partners. Unlike Europe where NATO and the European Union have inured the nations to working together multilaterally, the Indo-Pacific doesn't have that architecture, a senior defense official said.
The United States has treaty allies in the region: the Republic of Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Thailand, Australia and New Zealand.



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While the United States works bilaterally with many nations in the region, leaders would like to see more multilateral engagement. "The Quad" call that President Joe Biden participated in with the leaders of Australia, India and Japan is promising, officials said. The Quad is not a security pact, but it could grow into an arena that allows the countries to cooperate more.
China's behavior in the region — from fighting with India at the line of control, to increasing efforts and patrols in the Indian Ocean region — is worrisome to India. "They are aware of that and the traditionally non-aligned country is starting to do more with the United States, with Australia and with Japan," the official said. "India is not going to sign a mutual defense treaty with us any time soon, but they are a major defense partner of the United States and they are trying to become more interoperable with the U.S. military in their military capabilities, their command and control, their information sharing."
This is important because the region is so vast and so varied that no one country can do it alone. The United States will need allies and partners to defend the rules-based architecture that has benefited so many — including China.
The U.S. center of gravity is the friends and allies who want a free and open Indo-Pacific. China and Russia really do not have a network even close to this.
U.S. government officials will study the basing of U.S. troops in the region. This doesn't mean bases, but spaces. "We are not looking to reposition large numbers of troops, in large vulnerable concentrations," the official said. "We want to get the virtues of massing without the vulnerabilities of concentration."
This means troops positioning in many different countries in episodic and dynamic ways. The U.S. military doesn't require new and permanent bases in Indonesia and Malaysia, for example. "What we need is episodic places that support operations with our allies and partners," the official said.
Also, officials do not know China's plans, "and anyone who says they do, is probably being a little disingenuous," officials said.



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China has built islands in the South and East China Seas and plunked missiles on top. Chinese leaders talk of unifying Taiwan under Chinese rule, but Taiwan was never part of China.
With Taiwan in particular, Defense Department officials look at Chinese capacity. "Do they have sufficient numbers of the right pieces of equipment necessary to execute what … they would believe would be a successful operation?"
China has fielded scores of new and modern systems. "Just in 2020, in the midst of all the COVID related stuff, China still commissioned 25 major new ships," the official said.
A second part of this is that while the U.S. military was fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, "China went to school on us: We're their pacing threat," the official said.
The Chinese army has training centers similar to those the U.S. has at Fort Irwin, California, and Fort Polk, Louisiana. "They're trying to become joint interoperable," he said.
All this leads to an erosion of U.S. conventional deterrence. Leadership processes are weak. "We believe in decentralized execution," the official said. "The American GI or Marine fights best when there are hand grenades being thrown at them, and nobody's around to tell them what to do."
China has nothing comparable. Chinese leaders can write excellent plans, but once they confront the unexpected, there will be trouble for them.

 

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Excuse me sire, may i ask a stupid question here, hoping for enlightment.

Why would we still need (pushed for) of S 70 "Blackhawk" if we had newer improve and modernized the NAS 332C1+, infact that both helos has almost same capability, and currently all NAS 332 in our inventory still has good condition.

For comparison, SoKor also use it's own version of AS 332 for their workhorse.

It was Army programme not the Air Force. The Air Force would stick themselves with Super Puma and Caracal, meanwhile the Army looking for high end medium utility Helicopter and they are indeed quite comfy with Blackhawk as Penerbad indeed had compared and learning about Super Puma family and Blackhawk rigorously since at least a decade or more and they prefer Blackhawk more. There is more reason why Penerbad using Apache instead of Tiger....
 

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DAPA chief meets Indonesian air force chief​

Kang Eun-ho (L), head of South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), conveys an invitation to an upcoming ceremony to roll out the prototype of his country's first indigenous KF-X fighter to Indonesian Air Force Chief of Staff Fadjar Prasetyo during a visit to Indonesia on March 17, 2021, in this photo provided by DAPA. Kang visited the Southeast Asian nation to attend a ceremony for South Korea to hand over a 1,400-ton submarine to the Indonesian Navy in Surabaya the same day. The 61-meter submarine, dubbed Alugoro, was the third and last unit South Korea delivered to Indonesia under a 1.3 trillion-won (US$1.15 billion) contract in 2011. South Korea's Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. built the submarines. (PHOTO NOT FOR SALE) (Yonhap) (END)

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