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Btw, how there is still people said the Rafale contract is an MoU, when nonetheless the French MoD, Dassault Aviation legit sites, French presiden said it is a done deal contract? Are they are typical liar with have nothing to do to posts on forum or Twitter?

There is very big difference between contract order with MoU
 

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reassuring that we still stay in the project after yesterday bonanza ?
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reassuring that we still stay in the project after yesterday bonanza ?
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A small discussion before the photoshot
South Korean agent : Excuse me Pak, do you still have money after all of those shopping spree? I am just worry about our common projects pak
Mr Dadang : look my boss is coming
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South Korea agent : Sendiko Dawuh kawula Gusti pak'e
 

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What is the latest target for KFX's first serial production and FoC? 2026-2030?

Low rate initial production should be around 2024 -2026 during flight testing phase, that's what i am heard during some representation. Production should be commenced normally around 2026-2028 onward.
 

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JHMCS II and that wide touchscreen?
What else?

For undisclosed partner

 

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QA DSCA:

Final deal:

72 units, $ 21.1 billion -> 36 units, $ 12 billion

ID:
36 units, $ 13.8 billion -> ???
IMO, it is not wise to compare contracts from one country to another to determine whether we have a good deal or not simply because there are just too many factors needed to be considered (Poleksosbudhankam, etc)

Qatar for example, since the 1990s the country has become one of US military hubs in the region, including hosting USAF F-15. This factor alone could significantly help Qatar to receive discounts &/ cheaper training costs from Washington
 

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IMO, it is not wise to compare contracts from one country to another to determine whether we have a good deal or not simply because there are just too many factors needed to be considered (Poleksosbudhankam, etc)

Qatar for example, since the 1990s the country has become one of US military hubs in the region, including hosting USAF F-15. This factor alone could significantly help Qatar to receive discounts &/ cheaper training costs from Washington
So 13.8 billion for 36 F15EX variant (more advance than QA) for Indonesia is kind of make a sense?
 

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So 13.8 billion for 36 F15EX variant (more advance than QA) for Indonesia is kind of make a sense?
I read about it somewhere that this 13.9 billion USD is the upper limit of the whole package. It probably can go lower after negotiation, although not by much. But even if it's not, considering that F-15ID is in the same class of what's being offered to Israel (F-15IA), I think it's still make sense somehow.

Of course, if we can negotiate to lower the price, then more power to it.
 

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