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Hear me out guys.
Let's build something like this with those Iranian KW3 hellfire and send them to Papua.

Papua issue is not about platform, but political Will!! Indonesia got many ITAR free platform, or heck we even can trying to lobby the US and allies for their support and let their Made equipment to be used there which can be used to wreaking havoc for whatever resistence the Papuan can give and create hell on earth they are never seen before.

But heck our government even doesn't bother to lobbying them, doesn't bother to give attention toward this issue, doesn't bother to keep Dana Desa and dana Otsus find their way toward those Rebels, doesn't bother to put those traitor in front of shooting squad!!
 

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Mak Nyak was giving 'directions' to the TNI commander about conflics in Papua, insinuating the commander in chief. Wkwkwk

Mak Nyak's track record had been surrounded by hard-line military. As commander in chief, Mak Nyak chose policies of suppressing rebellion and riots by deploying the military. Mak Nyak set the status of a military operation area (DOM) in Aceh, and replaced police forces with the military during the sectarian riots in Ambon in 2002.

Mak Nyak's militaristic policies were flooded with criticism from all human rights activists.

Like father like daughter, well but it is air force thread
 

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Papua issue is not about platform, but political Will!! Indonesia got many ITAR free platform, or heck we even can trying to lobby the US and allies for their support and let their Made equipment to be used there which can be used to wreaking havoc for whatever resistence the Papuan can give and create hell on earth they are never seen before.

Why not use Russian or Chinese made assets (or any other non-western assets)?
 

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Prabowo must be the president

IMO, not simple. Only Kak Wowo as president, doesn't guarantee the expected number of F-15EX can be acquired immediately.

After 2002, Indonesia's constitutional system had completely divided government authority. The President of Indonesia is not a king with absolute authority. President himself can't make laws and state budget, he must involve and obtain the approval of DPR.

Presidential PERPPU is only valid for maximum of 1 year. If DPR doesn't give approval, it will no longer be valid. If state budget stipulated by PERPPU, the budget ceiling may not exceed the previous year.

If elected as president, Kak Wowo must ensure:
- the cabinet consists of credible and competent ministers, and can translate and implement the president's vision and mission effectively and efficiently.
- Kak Wowo's coalition in the DPR must be more than 50%. Even if more than 60% of the DPR seats were controlled by Kak Wowo's coalition, it would be relatively more stable and easier to implement government programs.

The KIR coalition that supports Kak Wowo as capres, only has 23.4% of the seats in DPR. In last opinion poll, Gerindra-PKB combined have around 26% power in future DPR. Kak Wowo still needs a lot of additional strength in DPR, so that his government can implement its mission, including to acquire the expected number of F-15EXs.

We can see 2 terms of Jokowi's administration:
1. Jokowi's first term only had a minority coalition, 36.9% of DPR seats, and had no deputy in the DPR structure.
- The relationship with PDIP had several obstacles. PDI-P was so angry at the appointment of Kapolri. Mak Nyak publicly warned Jokowi at 2015 PDIP Congress in Bali. PDIP even boycotted Minister of SoE, refusing to coordinate during the first term.
- Jokowi government was able to be relatively stable and implemented the programs in 2017. Jokowi succeeded in endorsing 'the coup' in Golkar, then undermined the strength of PAN and PPP.
2. Jokowi's second term controled majority of seats in the DPR.
- Initial coalition had 60.7% of DPR seats, then became so dominant with 81.9% after the joining of Gerindra and PAN.

If elected, Kak Wowo will become president at 72 years old. If he runs again in 2029 pilpres and is elected, then Kak Wowo is the same age as Joe Biden when he became president. However, in Kak Wowo first term, Indonesia will become a country with a nominal GDP of US$ 2 T, projected to be achieved in 2028.

If defense budget to GDP ratio remain 0.8%, the defense budget will be around US$ 16 billion. 25-40% of the defense budget for capital expenditure, including alutsista acquisition, will be worth US$ 4-6.4 billion. Its capacity has increased almost 2x from current condition.

PS:
- Sorry berat if OTT, form tewur political perspective. Hehehe
 

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Why not use Russian or Chinese made assets (or any other non-western assets)?

Ask the government, even before war in Ukraine started they are not willing to engage those in Papua so hard. Those Flanker , Mi35 ...
 

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Btw, talking about Flanker, Happy birthday for 11th squadron at 1 June. Kepakan sayap kalian penjaga langit Nusantara


11th squadron is Indonesian Air Force squadron which received De Havilland Vampire as their first ever asset in 1957, Made them the first ever jet fighter operational squadron in Indonesia. Going all the way till the current asset of Su27/30 aircraft before retired their A4 Skyhawk fleets in early 2000's.
 

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Now F15EX got its own PSP and knowing SM pushing hard for US fighters purchase to secure GSP, I think save to say Eagle and Viper are pretty much secure now.

I hope US gov and Boeing okay with Ngeteng scheme 😂
 

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Now F15EX got its own PSP and knowing SM pushing hard for US fighters purchase to secure GSP, I think save to say Eagle and Viper are pretty much secure now.

I hope US gov and Boeing okay with Ngeteng scheme 😂
well, one of the main strenght for this goverment is how they so creative to find capital for its project, like Pak De ambitions to finish sumatran toll roads, Rafales project n this one..it doesnt matter for ngeteng, all hail Hanyna....
 

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Jokowi put more priority on infrastructure than defense.
Thus many defense procurement and RnD are affected.
 

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well, one of the main strenght for this goverment is how they so creative to find capital for its project, like Pak De ambitions to finish sumatran toll roads, Rafales project n this one..it doesnt matter for ngeteng, all hail Hanyna....
Jokowi put more priority on infrastructure than defense.
Thus many defense procurement and RnD are affected.
One of the reason of F15 slow progress but if they forced to, they will find a way.
 

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Ask the government, even before war in Ukraine started they are not willing to engage those in Papua so hard. Those Flanker , Mi35 ...

Now you're talking. Those OPMs are not Mujahidin and they don't have Rambo on their side.

Let Mi-35 kick their asses and Flankers burn them to the ground.

Also use all Connie's CH-4B and their munitions to complete the job.
 

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