Is there any other slot to give to super flanker?
Bureaucracy will come in your way.
Surrender it to the power of foreign loan..
Well TNI-AU do seriously in need of AEW&C while the P8 could provide the necessary data set that the US need on North Natuna Sea (this way they don't need to fly their own Poseidon from our territory)
Blackhawk but no Chinook or Osprey? Personally I don't see any role for the Blackhawk (or S-70i) that can't be filled by our licensed produce ScaryBus Helicopter line up. Hopefully there is someone here who able to enlightened us as what advantage does S-70i could provide that can't be filled by Caracal or Super Puma?
We don't. Our gov't will most likely kept the deal status hanging to avoid offending Putin
US FMS tend to come with more punches in a single sales package. Moreover, even at similar procurement cost, the operating cost will be differed
The problem is operating cost. Procurement cost is easy since we can always take another loan.
My best guess is, his aiming for a bigger deal overall with European be that with Airbus, or Naval Group, etc. Furthermore, I'm guessing (again) there is a lot of trade agreement on the side (palm oil could be one)
from the info i got from other forum kemenkeu gave prabowo foreign credit allotment of multi years credit line of USD 3 Bio. Those USD 3 Bio allotment seems from calculation of Su-35 and F-16V. If Prabowo wants to change it to all Rafale (for example), the allotment will not change much. it's only a rumours take it with a grain of salt (credit to Ananda)
is that final amounts of foreign credit allowance?
RANGKAIAN SERTIFIKASI OERLIKON SKYSHIELD AIR DEFENCE SYSTEM BUATAN RHEINMETALL AIR DEFENCE AG SWISS
Tim Pelaksana Teknis Sertifikasi Kelaikudaraan Militer Kemhan (Tim IMAA) melaksanakan proses Sertifikasi Kelaikan Militer Air Defence System Oerlikon Skyshield buatan Rheinmetall Air Defence AG Swiss di Lanud Iswahjudi Madiun pada November Desember 2020. Kegiatan Validasi Desain sebelumnya telah dilaksanakan IMAA (Indonesian Military Airworthiness Authority) pada bulan November 2019 di fasilitas Rheinmetall Air Defence AG, Zurich Switzerland termasuk di fasilitas LIG Nex1 Co., Ltd Seoul Korea, pembuat Chiron Manpads yang diintegrasikan dengan Oerlikon Skyhiled.
PSU Oerlikon merupakan Sistem Pertahanan Udara yang dapat di deploy secara mobile untuk target udara jarak dekat. Satu Firing Unit (FU) terdiri 1 (satu) Fire Control Unit (Sensor Unit, Command Post, & Optical Sight), 2 (dua) Revolver Gun Mk2 & Ammunition dan sampai 4 (empat) Chiron MANPADS. TNI AU melalui Kemenhan RI sebelumnya telah mempersenjatai Korpaskhas TNI AU dengan 4 FU Oerlikon Skyshield pada tahun 2014, dan menambah 3 FU pada tahun 2020 ini. Secara desain, pengadaan 2020 terdapat sedikit perbedaan dengan tahun 2014, terutama penambahan Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) pada Sensor Unit sehingga dapat menginterogasi target yang terdeteksi oleh Radar.
Ketua Tim IMAA dalam closing briefing dengan pihak penyedia Rheinmetall AG Swiss menyampaikan, bahwa secara 3 FU telah berfungsi sesuai dengan desainnya, termasuk beberapa kali pengujian dengan pesawat T-50 dan SU-27/30 TNI AU yang sedang melakukan latihan rutin di Pangkalan TNI AU Iswahjudi Madiun. Sesuai kontrak, Sertifikat Kelaikan Militer dari Puslaik Kemhan akan diterbitkan setelah setelah pelaksanaan Firing System Test yang berbarengan dengan latihan rutin Paskhasau pada pertengahan tahun 2021. (Sumber: Inspektur Kelaikan Madya Moda Udara, Desember 2020).
Link :
Pusat Kelaikan Kemhan RI
www.kemhan.go.id
In 2020 the Oerlikon Skyshield Gun MK3 if the Oerlikon Skyshield MK2 hasn't used IFF.RANGKAIAN SERTIFIKASI OERLIKON SKYSHIELD AIR DEFENCE SYSTEM BUATAN RHEINMETALL AIR DEFENCE AG SWISS
Tim Pelaksana Teknis Sertifikasi Kelaikudaraan Militer Kemhan (Tim IMAA) melaksanakan proses Sertifikasi Kelaikan Militer Air Defence System Oerlikon Skyshield buatan Rheinmetall Air Defence AG Swiss di Lanud Iswahjudi Madiun pada November Desember 2020. Kegiatan Validasi Desain sebelumnya telah dilaksanakan IMAA (Indonesian Military Airworthiness Authority) pada bulan November 2019 di fasilitas Rheinmetall Air Defence AG, Zurich Switzerland termasuk di fasilitas LIG Nex1 Co., Ltd Seoul Korea, pembuat Chiron Manpads yang diintegrasikan dengan Oerlikon Skyhiled.
PSU Oerlikon merupakan Sistem Pertahanan Udara yang dapat di deploy secara mobile untuk target udara jarak dekat. Satu Firing Unit (FU) terdiri 1 (satu) Fire Control Unit (Sensor Unit, Command Post, & Optical Sight), 2 (dua) Revolver Gun Mk2 & Ammunition dan sampai 4 (empat) Chiron MANPADS. TNI AU melalui Kemenhan RI sebelumnya telah mempersenjatai Korpaskhas TNI AU dengan 4 FU Oerlikon Skyshield pada tahun 2014, dan menambah 3 FU pada tahun 2020 ini. Secara desain, pengadaan 2020 terdapat sedikit perbedaan dengan tahun 2014, terutama penambahan Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) pada Sensor Unit sehingga dapat menginterogasi target yang terdeteksi oleh Radar.
Ketua Tim IMAA dalam closing briefing dengan pihak penyedia Rheinmetall AG Swiss menyampaikan, bahwa secara 3 FU telah berfungsi sesuai dengan desainnya, termasuk beberapa kali pengujian dengan pesawat T-50 dan SU-27/30 TNI AU yang sedang melakukan latihan rutin di Pangkalan TNI AU Iswahjudi Madiun. Sesuai kontrak, Sertifikat Kelaikan Militer dari Puslaik Kemhan akan diterbitkan setelah setelah pelaksanaan Firing System Test yang berbarengan dengan latihan rutin Paskhasau pada pertengahan tahun 2021. (Sumber: Inspektur Kelaikan Madya Moda Udara, Desember 2020).
Link :
Pusat Kelaikan Kemhan RI
www.indomiliter.com
Do the previous MK2 can be upgraded into MK3?In 2020 the Oerlikon Skyshield Gun MK3 if the Oerlikon Skyshield MK2 hasn't used IFF.
The plan KASAU to purchase MK3 is 11 units of FU, maybe 3 units of FU have just arrived.
I quote the words from Indomiliter Link with Bahasa Indonesia I translate to English.
Along with the release of the Oerlikon Skyshield MK3, Rheinmetall also introduced the Skynex Air Defense system, which is of course linked to canons and radars. At IDEX 2017 which took place in Abu Dhabi last February, Rheinmetall released the X-TAR3D search radar. This modular unmanned radar system with ECCM (Electronic counter-countermeasure) capability becomes a tracking sense for the Skyshield canon, on this radar an IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) process is also carried out.
Oerlikon Revolver Gun MK3: Varian Terbaru Kanon Skyshield Untuk Denhanud Paskhas TNI AU
Sukses dalam beberapa kali uji penembakkan membuat Detasemen Pertahanan Udara (Denhanud) Paskhas cukup puas dengan kinerja kanon Oerlikon Skyshield 35 mm. Bahkan di HUT RI Ke-71 tahun 2016, Fire Control Unit (FCU) yang terdiri dari dua pucuk Skyshield dipercaya untuk mengamankan wilayah obyek...
I know, but looking at project they are already into such as emlu, possible KFC continuation, N219 production, UAV, I seriously doubt they have enough human resources and other resources to get it done. I hope Im wrong because I hate it at the end of the day they going to be asking for state fund placement or being late in delivery for their other order just like they did before.
AFAIK MoD asked for $20 bil total up until 2024. How much they going to be disburse yearly is up to Kemenkeu and MoD. This multiyears payment systems is rather new so I think Kemenhan and Kemenkeu will work closely together to prepare for the project funding.
