Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Umigami]

I dont know regarding the chance of F15/18, Heard rafale got locked on

Typhoon?

 

[joedhie2k]

we get approval to buy eagle from trump but how about biden's approval?

 

[Umigami]

we get approval to buy eagle from trump but how about biden's approval?

If we already sign the contract, there is nothing he can do.

 

[Parry Brima]

Indonesia should go for P-8 here too. They are perfect to deal with submarine interlopers and network will all other assets (like CN-235 existing MPA) for that role. Surface ship too, they are huge force multiplier to deal with those....as PLAN will find it difficult to bring its force multipliers that distance over the SCS sea stretch at that point.

Indonesia need to properly figure out how vertical and horizontal it want to go on sea interdiction basically.

Poseidon is a must. Wedgetail too if we got the money. In fact I'd be willing to sacrifice fighters numbers to get more warships or any other AShW + ASW assets.

F-15 here means the latest advanced eagle right? Not the 2nd hand AMARG?

Not sure if we can get F-15EX. Probably F-15E Strike Eagle at the maximum. But you're probably right, knowing us, we'll instead get AMARG

 

[schuimpjes]

Why the "kuda hitam" a.k.a SU-35 not in the list?

Forget that aircraft. That aircraft just will bring doom to us. Just be real.

 

[Madokafc]

I dont know regarding the chance of F15/18, Heard rafale got locked on

I heard that too, now the rest is slot for further acquisition program to reach 10 squadron worth strength as being envisioned during Purnomo Yusgiantoro era. We don't have Defense Minister for period 2014-2019...

 

[trishna_amrta]

we get approval to buy eagle from trump but how about biden's approval?

Once Trump can push the deal trough Congress there is nothing that Harris eeech sorry I mean Biden administration could do

 

[Soman45]

I heard that too, now the rest is slot for further acquisition program to reach 10 squadron worth strength as being envisioned during Purnomo Yusgiantoro era. We don't have Defense Minister for period 2014-2019...

lol i know what you feel.....someone please enlighten me how come before prabowo our MoD like doesn't even care about MEF 2? why he suddenly came out with that "bela negara" thing? and that was one of my disappointment from previous Jokowi's regime

 

[Umigami]

This is just my idea.
How "borong" gbu 12 from US if Rafale deal comes through?
Much more economical than solely use hammer.

 

[Umigami]

lol i know what you feel.....someone please enlighten me how come before prabowo our MoD like doesn't even care about MEF 2? why he suddenly came out with that "bela negara" thing? and that was one of my disappointment from previous Jokowi's regime

Infantry gerilya strong maybe?

 

[trishna_amrta]

This is just my idea.
How "borong" gbu 12 from US if Rafale deal comes through?
Much more economical than solely use hammer.

Well there is MBDA BANG for guided bomb

 

[joedhie2k]

the bomb will be from sari bahari.. nothing else

 

[Umigami]

the bomb will be from sari bahari.. nothing else

No problem if we can put hammer kit on it, can't it?

 

[Basith90]

I heard that too, now the rest is slot for further acquisition program to reach 10 squadron worth strength as being envisioned during Purnomo Yusgiantoro era. We don't have Defense Minister for period 2014-2019...

Oh c'mon his great program were Bela Negara

Also, once I read the news he said "Natuna Aman" several years ago

 

[Chestnut]

Honestly, in my very own opinion Indonesia Air Force should take F16 legacy and mix them with F16V to build workhorse number of at least six to ten squadron. Then going all out to replace Flanker with F15 E at least three to four squadron worth fighter as bomb truck and air interdiction fighter. The rest of the need by 2030 above is by taking KFX as learning curve to build and design a modern fighter indigenously. And trying taking order of readily available F35 or the same class of next generation fighter and if condition permit to joint the projects itself (like the Tempest project)

At the same time, Indonesian industry and other stakeholder should take initiative to build and ordering light fighter /LIFT in the class of F/A 50 by securing license producing Turbojet engines and work as light patrol platform with minimum number at least four to six squadron worth of units and increase more.

It's unironically what the Air Force wants to do. Rely on a mix fleet of F-16V's and F/A-50's with either the KFX or F-35 coming online after the 2030's.

But again, personal politics and bad judgement is at play here.

 

[Chestnut]

lol i know what you feel.....someone please enlighten me how come before prabowo our MoD like doesn't even care about MEF 2? why he suddenly came out with that "bela negara" thing? and that was one of my disappointment from previous Jokowi's regime

Because if you suddenly get billions of dollars spent on what is essentially a glorified camping trip, it's VERY easy to siphon funds off for yourself.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336935773912748032

 

[Kafkaesque]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336935773912748032

We really should put more fund into rocket research. This, combined with certain kind of warhead could make a great poor-man-deterrent-effect.

*****

So.. great news huh!! Although not to burst anyone's bubble, the real news here is that we do, or at least plan to allocate more than 5 billions for fighters procurement.

Well, whichever wins, I hope we will get reasonable ToT from the deal. My ego choose F-15EX, but my brain says "not possible", so I'd settle with Strike Eagle. However, I wager that it is Airbus that will give us the best ToT.

 

[l3onhard]

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[Kansel]

Some of my source say there's a slight chance for F15/18 to fulfill our trade balance with US alongside awacs and airlift if possible

Idk if rafale really got locked on, that one hasn't been answered.

Edit: if Rafale deal get signed on this month or next year, it means there's no chance for F15/18 in here