Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Parry Brima]

Dun...dun...dun...dun sad moment for our eastern weapons indeed

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oh boy their fans are not gonna like this

How much can we get from selling 16 SU-27/30? $300 mil? The new price is probably around $40 - $50 mil only.

The only way we can replace one squadron with $300 mil is by buying second hand fighters.

 

[reashot_xigwin]

How much can we get from selling 16 SU-27/30? $300 mil? The new price is probably around $40 - $50 mil only.

The only way we can replace one squadron with $300 mil is buying second hand fighters.

I assume we will be selling this to the vietnamese because it says that we are thinking of selling it to another Rusky equipments operator in the region?

 

[Parry Brima]

I assume we will be selling this to the vietnamese because it says that we are thinking of selling it to another Rusky equipments operator in the region?

Apart from us, there are 3 other countries who operate Sukhoi in SE Asia :

- Vietnam
- Myanmar
- Malasya

 

[reashot_xigwin]

Apart from us, there are 3 other countries who operate Sukhoi in SE Asia :

- Vietnam
- Myanmar
- Malasya

Beside Vietnam with a chinese threat looming over. I don't see the burmese (with their political crisis) or the malaysian having the money or be desperate enough to buy second hand russian assets from us. The deal also include hinds btw.

The most likely buyer is vietnamese in my opinions but I don't mind if I'm proven wrong as long as we can get rid of our russian equipments.

 

[Umigami]

Apart from us, there are 3 other countries who operate Sukhoi in SE Asia :

- Vietnam
- Myanmar
- Malasya

- vietnam : biggest possibility
- myanmar : they'll be a huge boost for their AF. But it's kind of giving power to PKC allies, isn't it?
- Malaysia : lowest possibility, already has advance MKM. And I hear they kind of "kapok" with russian stuff too just like us.

How about selling them to privately owned aggressor squadron?

 

[schuimpjes]

Apart from us, there are 3 other countries who operate Sukhoi in SE Asia :

- Vietnam
- Myanmar
- Malasya

Political suicide if we sell it to Myanmar. I more lean toward Vietnam too same as @reashot_xigwin and @Umigami

But I will still hold it btw. Hope thatkabar burung is solid.

 

[Soman45]

it looks like from @Defenceview and @forummerahputih source it's almost confirm (and most likely) our AEW&C platform will be from SAAB

this one is from @forummerahputih today

and this one is from defenceview

 

[trishna_amrta]

Btw, there is motion for Indonesia foreign policy including policy to procure major Arms to lean toward the US, French and UK (as Big Five ) along with other their allies including Japan, Germany and South Korea and at the same time trying to ditch Russian and China option altogether if it can be done.

dang I miss that one. When that happen? Whose pushing it?

 

[FPXAllen]

Dun...dun...dun...dun sad moment for our eastern weapons indeed

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oh boy their fans are not gonna like this

I remember watching closely and felt in awe when those Sukhois were flying and maneuvering several times on different occasions. Those jets are indeed magnificent birds and sight to behold.

But my admiration somehow faded when I found out how much it cost us to operate and to maintain them. Not to mention that we had to ship back at least some those planes for engine maintenance and/or replacement.

So if the air force finally decide to sell those jets, then more power to them.

 

[Gary]

Better to sell those Flankers to private companies playing aggressor squadron in America, they're going to pay huge sum of money for Russian 4th gen jets. Selling one to Vietnam is a suicide, we're not on good terms with Vietnam.

 

[schuimpjes]

dang I miss that one. When that happen? Whose pushing it?

After ketok-ketok gulu era in 65-66 wkwk. Russian and Chinese Fansboy were killed (di-game) and captured (di-bon) on that time btw.

Such a bloody history we have.

 

[FPXAllen]

it looks like from @Defenceview and @forummerahputih source it's almost confirm (and most likely) our AEW&C platform will be from SAAB

this one is from @forummerahputih today
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and this one is from defenceview
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Does anyone remember when was the first hint of Erieye for our AWACS appeared on Indonesian defence forums? Be it on K*skus or elsewhere? It feels like eons ago for me...

 

[reashot_xigwin]

Better to sell those Flankers to private companies playing aggressor squadron in America, they're going to pay huge sum of money for Russian 4th gen jets. Selling one to Vietnam is a suicide, we're not on good terms with Vietnam.

 

[Parry Brima]

it looks like from @Defenceview and @forummerahputih source it's almost confirm (and most likely) our AEW&C platform will be from SAAB

this one is from @forummerahputih today
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and this one is from defenceview
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We're going to buy FREMM?? That's bloody fantastic! For me that's even better news than the fighters.

We're so damn rich

edit : sorry this is supposed to be TNI AU thread

 

[reashot_xigwin]

We're going to buy FREMM?? That's bloody fantastic! For me that's even better news than the fighters.

We're so damn rich

edit : sorry this is supposed to be TNI AU thread

Can't believe I missed those. Maybe because I never used to receive (good news) before and just didn't notice it.

AWACS first though

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1364530763169861633

 

[Umigami]

The only significant weakness of global eye is no aerial refuelling capability.

 

[Soman45]

with all those hints now this picture is make sense

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1362339590888062981

 

[Captain Wales]

The only significant weakness of global eye is no aerial refuelling capability.

if the base aircraft is bombardier global then range wouldn't be an issue considering the civilian version got about 10.000+ km of range (maybe less due to drag after we added radar)

but yea aerial refueling would be nice addition

 

[trishna_amrta]

The only significant weakness of global eye is no aerial refuelling capability.

if the base aircraft is bombardier global then range wouldn't be an issue considering the civilian version got about 10.000+ km of range (maybe less due to drag after we added radar)

but yea aerial refueling would be nice addition

Lack of feature yes, but unless we want''t to conduct expeditionary operation, aerial refuelling for it is non issue for condition. already have hundreds of unsinkable aircraft carrier, much simpler (not to mention cheaper) that way.