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[trishna_amrta]

Well ... I'm not as optimistic as you were tho' . The gears are turning too fast for this one . I don't know what's wrong with all of these mainland anxiety but boy .... They trying too hard to prevail .

"Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers"

It's about the remaining time to left behind legacy. Particularly the remaining time for their top leadership. And also keep in mind with the amount of people living on this planet, foods source will only become more and more precious.
The world do indeed move fast. And it's mostly due to the widespread use of internet. In these days, a large volume of knowledge from the other side of the world could be access (or stolen) at roughly the same time it was published in its place of origin. The same can't be said even 20 - 30 years ago. And if you believe present days world is moving too fast, just wait after 2040 WHEN Strong / General Purpose AI will start to appear. By that time there is no way to predict let alone having a decent predictive model of how the world will become

 

[schuimpjes]

Індонезійські танки ПТ-76 отримають озброєння з українськими ракетами​

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12 червня 2020, 13:30
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Україна буде модернізувати ПТ-76 для Індонезії
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Стали відомі нові деталі щодо модернізації легких плавучих танків ПТ-76 для Індонезії​

Легкий плавучий танк ПТ-76, який Україна буде модернізувати для Індонезії, отримає озброєння з українськими ракетами. Як стало відомо Defense Express, встановлена на танк 90-мм гармата Cockerill Mk 3M-A2 бельгійської компанії CMI Defense буде використовувати протитанкову керовану ракету Falarick 90 від ДержККБ "Луч".

Постріл з протитанковою керованою ракетою Falarick 90. Фото: ДержККБ "Луч"
Українська сторона вже має домовленість з Індонезією щодо закупівлі цих ракет. Раніше Defense Express повідомляв, що українські підприємства будуть модернізувати танки ПТ-76 для Індонезії та інших країн азіатського регіону за проєктом, який підготувала державна компанія "Укрспецекспорт".


У рамках модернізації танк отримає низку змін: новий двигун, трансмісію, систему активного захисту "Заслон-Л", цифрову багатофункціональну систему прицілювання та керування озброєнням "Синтез", сучасну систему навігації "Базальт", радіостанції Harris та інші вдосконалення.

Танк ПТ-76 отримає низку змін: новий двигун, активний захист та різні системи
Замовником, а також партнером "Укрспецекспорта" в Індонезії стане PT Lumindo Artha Sejati, оскільки індонезійське законодавство передбачає співпрацю з іноземним виконавцем через місцеву компанію.

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Як раніше зазначив у коментарі Defense Express заступник генерального директора ДП "Укрспецекспорт" Юрій Шрамко: "Програма модернізації бронетехніки охоплює не лише ПТ-76, а й інші зразки техніки та має за мету спільне виробництво нового типу плаваючих танків на базі українських заводів".

Довідка
Постріл з протитанковою керованою ракетою Falarick 90 призначений для ураження нерухомих та рухомих сучасних броньованих цілей з комбінованою, рознесеною чи монолітною бронею, у тому числі й динамічним захистом, малорозмірних цілей типу довгочасних вогневих точок, танка в окопі чи легкоброньованих об’єктів і вертольотів.

Фото ДержККБ "Луч"
Максимальна дальність стрільби становить 4 км. Система управління – напівавтоматична по лазерному променю. Бойова частина – тандемна кумулятивна, бронепробиття за динамічним захистом становить не менш як 550 мм. Вага пострілу становить 20,05 кг.

What the hell is this article talking about? wkwk

 

[Madokafc]

What the hell is this article talking about? wkwk

Refurbished project of Marine corps PT 76 fleets, including instalation of new FCS, Radio comm using Harriss , New model of Navigation combat management system, and ATGM using fallarick 90 model. Quite thorough refit.

And actually being done at private owned workshop

 

[Soman45]

Refurbished project of Marine corps PT 76 fleets, including instalation of new FCS, Radio comm using Harriss , New model of Navigation combat management system, and ATGM using fallarick 90 model. Quite thorough refit.

And actually being done at private owned workshop

from lembaga keris this upgrade will also include Zaslon APS....if it's true then this will be our first APS on our armoured cavalry (CMIIW)

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/posts/3265561383552182

 

[Ravager]

Why they don't go for 105 mm ?? Chasis floatation limitation ??

But , it's a progress none the less and hopely all the interested institutes and parties could draw some inspiration on how to bettering or increasing and upgrading current and next project in the pipe line

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Russian dont go with 105, instead they go with 122 and make them Gvozdika SPG.
And bloody hell you gitta put 105 on that tiny punny turret ?



Hmm, Put an APS on a thin (very) Armored Tracked Vehicle ?
Yeah, but is it could whitstand water and corrotion ?

Also thats far more ironical, when they try to put more protection to machine but left infantry without ballistic vest.

 

[Gundala]

Refurbished project of Marine corps PT 76 fleets, including instalation of new FCS, Radio comm using Harriss , New model of Navigation combat management system, and ATGM using fallarick 90 model. Quite thorough refit.

And actually being done at private owned workshop

Private owned workshop? Nice, this kind of news always brighten my day

 

[Madokafc]

Russian dont go with 105, instead they go with 122 and make them Gvozdika SPG.
And bloody hell you gitta put 105 on that tiny punny turret ?



Hmm, Put an APS on a thin (very) Armored Tracked Vehicle ?
Yeah, but is it could whitstand water and corrotion ?

Also thats far more ironical, when they try to put more protection to machine but left infantry without ballistic vest.

Actually Marines infantry got more self protection equipment compared to their regular Army peer

 

[Anmdt]

ZOKA Launcher on Preveze and Gur Class Submarines

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Preveze ve Gür Sınıfı Denizaltılar'ın ZOKA Fırlatma Lançeri - M5 Dergi

22 Aralık 2020 tarihinde gerçekleşen Kaplan Pençesi 2020 tatbikatının yayınlanan görüntülerini incelediğimizde, torpidoları aldatmak ve karıştırmak için kullanılan ZOKA akustik dekoylarını fırlatacak lançerlerin GÜR sınıfı bir denizaltıya entegre edildiğini M5 olarak tespit ettik. ZARGANA...

m5dergi.com

24 decoys were delivered to the Indonesia, earlier i have claimed it can be 12 per hull so the purchase was 2 submarines, but as seen in the application on a Turkish submarine, it was only purchased for a single submarine (24 for each)

 

[l3onhard]

neptune missile for tni al? how about brahmos?

Media Ukraina: Indonesia Telah Sepakati Pengadaan Rudal Anti Kapal RK-360MC Neptune, Inilah Profilnya

Di liburan Natal ini ada kabar yang mengejutkan dalam jagad alutsista di Indonesia, yang dimaksud justru keputusan atas pembelian Rafale atau Eurofighter, melainkan atas sesuatu yang lain, bahkan sesuatu yang belum pernah disebut-sebut sebelumnya. Persisnya situs asal Ukraina, Defense Express –...

www.indomiliter.com

 

[R4duga]

neptune missile for tni al? how about brahmos?

Media Ukraina: Indonesia Telah Sepakati Pengadaan Rudal Anti Kapal RK-360MC Neptune, Inilah Profilnya

Di liburan Natal ini ada kabar yang mengejutkan dalam jagad alutsista di Indonesia, yang dimaksud justru keputusan atas pembelian Rafale atau Eurofighter, melainkan atas sesuatu yang lain, bahkan sesuatu yang belum pernah disebut-sebut sebelumnya. Persisnya situs asal Ukraina, Defense Express –...

www.indomiliter.com

some people in FB told they were too pricey compared to neptune , also ..... too much russian internal components compared to neptune .

 

[R4duga]

we seek their original manufacturer , based some info in the internet , turkish pulat actually licensed variants of Zaslon .

 

[Anmdt]

good thing , rather than going with turkish pulat, we seek their original manufacturer , based some info in the internet , Pulat actually licensed variants of Zaslon .

Pulat is not licensed but developed by Aselsan from ToT from Ukraine, updated with Turkish systems (sensors- software).
Don't expect Ukraine to deliver ToT and know-how just for money, they would seek some other "tech" in return. Ukraine-Turkey has been in exchange on Technology and know-how for awhile yet still they are stingy about sharing technology.
On the other hand Turkey can deliver some know-how and tech if an amount is guaranteed, unlike Ukraine.
Then i wonder if you prefer original manufacturer why Indonesia has been in talks for Type 214 through Turkey,if modified version is not good enough as you suggest for APS?

 

[this is crunch]

some people in FB told they were too pricey compared to neptune , also ..... too much russian internal components compared to neptune .

thats make sense

 

[trishna_amrta]

Don't expect Ukraine to deliver ToT and know-how just for money, they would seek some other "tech" in return. Ukraine-Turkey has been in exchange on Technology and know-how for awhile yet still they are stingy about sharing technology.

Does such Ukraine practice is their way of doing "business as usual" with anyone (regardless of the value) or case by case basis?

 

[R4duga]

Pulat is not licensed but developed by Aselsan from ToT from Ukraine, updated with Turkish systems (sensors- software).
Don't expect Ukraine to deliver ToT and know-how just for money, they would seek some other "tech" in return. Ukraine-Turkey has been in exchange on Technology and know-how for awhile yet still they are stingy about sharing technology.
On the other hand Turkey can deliver some know-how and tech if an amount is guaranteed, unlike Ukraine.
Then i wonder if you prefer original manufacturer why Indonesia has been in talks for Type 214 through Turkey,if modified version is not good enough as you suggest for APS?

never saying pulat is bad , but if we can get it from the original maker , why not ?? as for the sub i remember prabowo does visit STM shipyard but back in a few month ago , a consultant who come here and give mr president letter is straightly from TKMS .

 

[trishna_amrta]

a consultant who come here and give mr president letter is straightly from TKMS .

Began to look like Naval Group vs ThyssenKrupp isn't?

 

[Anmdt]

Does such Ukraine practice is their way of doing "business as usual" with anyone (regardless of the value) or case by case basis?

I didn't get the question.
If you are referring to value of the deal, i don't think that would be a base for them to deliver know-how. They would rather expect a return equal in term of the technology, something which will benefit to their capabilities.
I would say Turkey is more generous in ToT to particular countries than Ukraine.

 

[Anmdt]

never saying pulat is bad , but if we can get it from the original maker , why not ?? as for the sub i remember prabowo does visit STM shipyard but back in a few month ago , a consultant who come here and give mr president letter is straightly from TKMS .

It wasn't too far but a little time ago Indonesia had talks with Turkey for know-how from Gölcük Naval Shipyard.
As i told, it is not a licensed product (APS) but a derived product developed by the ToT, if interested in "original manufacturer" then it will make sense to buy anti-ship missiles from Russia instead of Ukraine.
Some parts used in Pulat has been developed by Aselsan during AKKOR project which aims an active protection similar to the Trophy APS.

TKMS collaboration with Gölcük Naval Shipyard is at great extends too. So i wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as Gölcük-HDW.
STM doesn't have any shipyards.

 

[R4duga]

It wasn't too far but a little time ago Indonesia had talks with Turkey for know-how from Gölcük Naval Shipyard.
As i told, it is not a licensed product (APS) but a derived product developed by the ToT, if interested in "original manufacturer" then it will make sense to buy anti-ship missiles from Russia instead of Ukraine.
Some parts used in Pulat has been developed by Aselsan during AKKOR project which aims an active protection similar to the Trophy APS.

TKMS collaboration with Gölcük Naval Shipyard is at great extends too. So i wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as Gölcük-HDW.
STM doesn't have any shipyards.

pardon me with the STM parts , i forgot which turk shipyard produce the 214 sub , but STM designed the turkish 214 if i remember .