Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Stuka Dive]

This will only happen if the military relationship between Indonesia and Germany reached Norwegian-German level.

This could be better or worst, depends on how we manage the issue of our nickel export to europe, especially Germany.

 

[Madokafc]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=4158692734239038&id=181276675314017

Indonesian Navy chose H225M and H145M

 

[Lordimperator]

This could be better or worst, depends on how we manage the issue of our nickel export to europe, especially Germany.

Last time their staff embassy went for Petamburan

 

[Captain Wales]

The hull shape remind me of astute class ssn

well the use of angled surface as a stealth feature in submarine is nothing new, it's been around since the 70's with trafalgar-class sub.

and with astute in 2000

only the different between them with 212CD (and the future Royal Navy SSBN/SSN) that the angled surface run the whole boat instead only on the front.

 

[ardezzo]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=4158692734239038&id=181276675314017

I wish they also choose H160M

 

[Gary]

It's been quite some time now that the navy operate medium helicopter from their deck.

Wish the navy could bring this capability back. Iirc we have a exocet launching Puma back in the 80s.

H-225 with AM-39

 

[Umigami]

Last time their staff embassy went for Petamburan

Until now I don't know WTH they need to went there?!

 

[Gary]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.tnial.mil.id/assets/majalah/PDF-20211007-081810.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjj1NWLiYH0AhVVX30KHSDqDjMQFnoECFYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0X6_RgyDG6_vcxG5Xosj4o

Navy Horizon magazine, October edition. From the look of it the navy still has an interest for the 30FFM.

 

[NEKO]

well the use of angled surface as a stealth feature in submarine is nothing new,

I think its more about aerodynamic.

 

[Lordimperator]

Navy Horizon magazine, October edition. From the look of it the navy still has an interest for the 30FFM.

Quoting the magazine

"Fifth, the FFM-type frigates offered to Indonesia are
designed to have the same capability as destroyers
but are capable of being operated by 100 crew
members, which is half the amount required by a
destroyer-type vessel"

Okay same capability as destroyer so more than standard 16 vls?

 

[NEKO]

same capability as destroyer

Hmm... and what would that be?

 

[Lordimperator]

Hmm... and what would that be?

PACIFIC 2019: MHI Unveils OPV & DDG Designs Based on Future JMSDF Frigate - Naval News

At PACIFIC 2019, the international maritime exposition which opened its doors in Sydney, Australia, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries of Japan unveiled two news ship designs based on their FMF frigate: Two OPV and a DDG designs.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Quoting the magazine

Okay same capability as destroyer so more than standard 16 vls?

there's no patent design, every boat can be tailored to fufill a country specific requirements.

 

[Lordimperator]

every boat can be tailored to fufill a country specific requirements.

Jap: how many vls do you want?
ID : Yesss
Jap: how much $ you could afford?
ID : ...

 

[Umigami]

Do H255m has ASuW variant?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Do H255m has ASuW variant?

AFAIK, there's no dedicated ASUW variants. But one can be configured to be mount ASUW weaponery, such dipping sonar and torps. But it will need some major modifications if the user want to put hull mounted radar/sonar such S-60R.

But, i kind of surprised tho to hear Navy have small interest towards airbus Helos than IDArmy wich prefer BlackHawk.

One of many most of my concern was toward simplicity of any military asset. It will be bad day if you ever encounter logistical nightmare.

 

[R4duga]

AFAIK, there's no dedicated ASUW variants. But one can be configured to be mount ASUW weaponery, such dipping sonar and torps. But it will need some major modifications if the user want to put hull mounted radar/sonar such S-60R.

But, i kind of surprised tho to hear Navy have small interest towards airbus Helos than IDArmy wich prefer BlackHawk.

One of many most of my concern was toward simplicity of any military asset. It will be bad day if you ever encounter logistical nightmare.

H145M should be the best candidate when penerbad wanted to decomissioned their bolkow.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1456822474004484099

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1456861189946945539

 

[Gary]

AFAIK, there's no dedicated ASUW variants. But one can be configured to be mount ASUW weaponery, such dipping sonar and torps. But it will need some major modifications if the user want to put hull mounted radar/sonar such S-60R.

Umigami asks if H225M has ASuW variant not ASW.