Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Madokafc]

btw there are already many denials about Alman tweet....some said it was just "kabar angin" and Thales still trying to push their luck and we still prefer Leonardo configuration

Unless they have already finished their technical detail engineering phase, in which still going on

Formidable class also use Aster 30

Nah better avoid whatever they are offering to us.....it doesn't sounds right for me to buy weapons from your potential enemy

China LPD Type 071 seems okay to me, though they can offer it with western Made sensor and CMS it Will be plus point. Another issue is we need to know their Made weaponry and system level... Turkey had been doing such thing with Russian Made system

 

[Anmdt]

Unless they have already finished their technical detail engineering phase, in which still going on


China LPD Type 071 seems okay to me, though they can offer it with western Made sensor and CMS it Will be plus point. Another issue is we need to know their Made weaponry and system level... Turkey had been doing such thing with Russian Made system

Russian Mistral deal would be a better example, a French-built ship fully equipped with Russian systems
Turkey doesn't use Russian originated systems on Naval platforms.
While S400 is rather an independent unit, Russians didn't allow much to interfere except of the IFF.
Maybe that makes more sense if Indonesia collaborates for Dokdo class, considering earlier collaboration on Makassar class.
Moreover, Western or Japanese shipyards wouldn't provide ToT to a shipyard possibly receiving ToT from a Chinese shipyard too. So better to choose a shipyard for one-time use only.

 

[Parry Brima]

I wouldn't mind if China sells us their Type-071 LPD for a good price.

It's actually cheap. The Thais got it for just $200 mil.

Anyway, I think that $200 mil should go to frigates/submarines acquisition program first. Besides, there's no mention of LPD on the leaked list from Rapim so it's probably not urgent needs.

Royal Thai Navy Procures Type 071E LPD from China's CSSC - Naval News

Thailand signed a contract with China for the procurement of a Type 071E landing platform dock (LPD) on September 9, 2019. China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC) will build the amphibious vessel for the Royal Thai Navy.

www.navalnews.com

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369135860306702339

 

[Gary]

Russian Mistral deal would be a better example, a French-built ship fully equipped with Russian systems
Turkey doesn't use Russian originated systems on Naval platforms.
While S400 is rather an independent unit, Russians didn't allow much to interfere except of the IFF.
Maybe that makes more sense if Indonesia collaborates for Dokdo class, considering earlier collaboration on Makassar class.
Moreover, Western or Japanese shipyards wouldn't provide ToT to a shipyard possibly receiving ToT from a Chinese shipyard too. So better to choose a shipyard for one-time use only.

that's what I mean, you see we only need Chinese comparatively competitive price, to build it's hulls and install the engine, it's not like Indonesia will equip its LPD with advanced electronics and CMS.

AFAIK, all Indonesian navy Makassar class LPD uses civilian radar and no CMS, unlike it's Singaporean neighbor.

for me the Makassar is to small, and it's aviation facility is very limited.

 

[Madokafc]

Looks like they still continue the DSME 209 class project and put the budget already

Seems they are truly put everything on the Table at almost the same time

 

[Madokafc]

Now they are really put the budget for Frigates program for this year

 

[Umigami]

Looks like they still continue the DSME 209 class project and put the budget already

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Seems they are truly put everything on the Table at almost the same time

Well, we know from rapim they'll buy KSS I aka DSME 1400.

Now they are really put the budget for Frigates program for this year

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Finally! Iver?
Leonardo or thales ?

 

[Umigami]

 

[Madokafc]

KRI Tarakan joint third fleets command, credits via lembaga keris

This is Indonesia Made Oiler and supply vessels

 

[Panca]

KRI Tarakan joint third fleets command, credits via lembaga keris

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This is Indonesia Made Oiler and supply vessels

If I'm not mistaken there is a tanker that got stuck, does anyone know what happened?

 

[Captain Wales]

Looks like they still continue the DSME 209 class project and put the budget already

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Seems they are truly put everything on the Table at almost the same time

some say that this contract not for KSS-I (especially some page from ig), i don't know where they got their sources but as far as i know only KSS-I that got the contract signed, the 214 and scorpene still in negotiation phases, right?

any opinion about this ? or im getting it wrong here?

 

[Madokafc]

some say that this contract not for KSS-I (especially some page from ig), i don't know where they got their sources but as far as i know only KSS-I that got the contract signed, the 214 and scorpene still in negotiation phases, right?

any opinion about this ? or im getting it wrong here?

They Will honor the contract signed before, but they will revised or negotiated some detail

 

[Anmdt]

some say that this contract not for KSS-I (especially some page from ig), i don't know where they got their sources but as far as i know only KSS-I that got the contract signed, the 214 and scorpene still in negotiation phases, right?

any opinion about this ? or im getting it wrong here?

The amount is exactly 1/10th of the second batch contract for nagapasa.
While $17 million could be for something else (for example torpedo countermeasures for remaining 2 hulls, or just 1)

 

[Madokafc]

PT. BT Indo Tekno mengunjungi Sarang Prajurit “Roda Rantai” Resimen Kavaleri 1 Marinir (Menkav 1 Mar) yang disambut hangat oleh Perwira Staf Operasi (Pasops) Menkav 1 Mar Letkol Marinir Bambang Herawan, S.E., M.Tr.Opsla., di garase Ranpur Menkav 1 Kesatrian Marinir Hartono Cilandak, Jakarta Selatan, Selasa (09/10/2021).

Kunjungan kali ini dalam rangka untuk mendapatkan informasi dan modernisasi dari Ranpur PT 76. Kegiatan diawali dengan briefing dari PT. BTI Indo Tekno yang diwakili oleh Peter Tjahno berserta tim yang juga didampingi oleh Letkol Marinir I Ketut G.K dari Slog Kormar.

Selanjutnya tim dari PT. Indo Tekno melaksanakan pengecekan diruang penembakan ranpur PT 76, pengecekan radio dan GCH (Gun Control Handle), diharapkan dengan kedatangan tim dari PT. Indo Tekno ini akan dapat menularkan berbagai informasi dan ilmu kepada para pengawak kendaraan tempur yang telah dimodernisasi.

Kunjungan PT. BTI Indo Tekno di Sarang Prajurit Resimen Kavaleri 1 Marinir

Jakarta, PW: PT. BT Indo Tekno mengunjungi Sarang Prajurit "Roda Rantai" Resimen Kavaleri 1 Marinir (Menkav 1 Mar) yang disambut hangat oleh Perwira Staf Operasi (Pasops) Menkav 1 Mar Letkol Marinir Bambang Herawan, S.E., M.Tr.Opsla., di garase Ranpur Menkav 1 Kesatrian Marinir Hartono Cilandak...

peloporwiratama.co.id

Indonesian Navy Marine corps PT76 is clearly already a different beast compared to other PT76 which is still in active service for other countries. Beside using US Made drivetrain, engine BLOCKS, they too had Cockeril John 90 mm gun, Hariss radio set, and already modernized optical sight, targeting system, GCH and stabilizer.

 

[Anmdt]

KRI Tarakan joint third fleets command, credits via lembaga keris

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This is Indonesia Made Oiler and supply vessels

KRI Bontang looks alot better than KRI Tarakan, it actually looks awesome.
Wasn't Tarakan commissioned in 2014-2015?

 

[NEKO]

KRI Bontang looks alot better than KRI Tarakan, it actually looks awesome.

Are you referring the stern area?

Wasn't Tarakan commissioned in 2014-2015?

Well yes, and now the ship is transferred to the newly established fleet, 3rd fleet (eastern most).

 

[Anmdt]

Are you referring the stern area?

Overall, the touches at supper structure (diagonal flat surfaces), purposing stern area(at least two decks) probably for accommodation, and better looking landing spot.

 

[Panca]

Ahh ,, I just remembered, the tanker that was stalled was KRI Dumai PT DKB. never discussed in Kaskus.

 

[this is crunch]

KRI Bontang looks alot better than KRI Tarakan, it actually looks awesome.
Wasn't Tarakan commissioned in 2014-2015?

Overall, the touches at supper structure (diagonal flat surfaces), purposing stern area(at least two decks) probably for accommodation, and better looking landing spot.

both of the ships are built by the same design with significant improvement, in fact, most of Indonesian tradition is very much like this,
we build a thing
we ordered it
we improved it
we ordered it
we another improved it
we ordered it

it happens to all kind of stuff we use, thats why one thing is kind of different with another but still itu itu aja gt

its not like european design that already mature design since the begining

and about the tanker, we actually put another contract last year

Batamec Shipyard Kembali Garap Kapal Bantu Cair Minyak Pesanan TNI AL

PT Batamec Shipyard kembali dipercaya oleh TNI Angkatan Laut untuk menyediakan satu unit kapal yang dirancang sebagai Kapal Bantu Cair Minyak (BCM).

m.liputan6.com

and the design will slightly different with some another improvement