Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Madokafc]

From this,


To this news,

Sri Mulyani Injecting BUMN IDR 37.38 Trillion In 2021, PLN Also Gets

PT PLN (Persero) will receive PMN of IDR 5 trillion in 2021.

www.google.com

WDYT ? Is there any chance to build submarine beyond Type 209 template ? Or it just to purchase a complete set of tooling for mae another Type 209 subs ?

In other hands, I don't think if MoD want annother lag behind our precius investor

Just wait for at least April just like i said before in my previous comment, that's the deadline of PSP 2021 allocation budget, some hundreds million US Dollar for interim subs can be used as downpayment for Submarine acquisition with modification in contract use.

That's how Rafale deals would be concluded btw, they would use budget for interim fighter psp 2021 budget

 

[chiphocks]

Looks like KRI Golok-688 is now installed with weapon (RCWS) near the mast. Credit to North Sea Boats.

View attachment 37862

am i the only one who expecting an oerlikon millennium on that RCWS?
im kinda sure that will fit, but i don't know whether that roof strong enough

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1477913398398517248

 

[Anmdt]

From this,


To this news,

Sri Mulyani Injecting BUMN IDR 37.38 Trillion In 2021, PLN Also Gets

PT PLN (Persero) will receive PMN of IDR 5 trillion in 2021.

www.google.com

WDYT ? Is there any chance to build submarine beyond Type 209 template ? Or it just to purchase a complete set of tooling for mae another Type 209 subs ?

In other hands, I don't think if MoD want annother lag behind our precius investor

In overall extra money and time needed for bringing the shipyard, technicians and engineers up to the level to support construction of those hulls.

 

[Umigami]

Indonesian defence minister Prabowo intensifies talks over weapons modernisation plan

Defence Minister Prabowo Subianto held a string of meetings with chiefs of staff from the Indonesian Military (TNI) earlier this week to discuss plans to modernise the country’s primary weaponry system.

www.thestar.com.my

 

[Umigami]

Elettronica could win a contract for the future FREMM for Indonesia

According to information published by Agenzia Nova on 21 December 2021, Elettronica has entered into negotiations to supply electronic warfare components t

www.navyrecognition.com

 

[Lordimperator]

Elettronica could win a contract for the future FREMM for Indonesia

According to information published by Agenzia Nova on 21 December 2021, Elettronica has entered into negotiations to supply electronic warfare components t

www.navyrecognition.com

So ours will be equipped with ecm unlike Egyptian FREMM Ens Galala?

 

[Lordimperator]

For the FREMM hype :

Bergamini FREMM Frigate FFGH Italian Navy Marina Militare

bergamini fremm class guided missile frigate ffgh italian navy marina militare aster sam teseo ssm oto breda gun

www.seaforces.org

 

[this is crunch]

For the FREMM hype :

Bergamini FREMM Frigate FFGH Italian Navy Marina Militare

bergamini fremm class guided missile frigate ffgh italian navy marina militare aster sam teseo ssm oto breda gun

www.seaforces.org

it looks very gorgeus when it fitted with OtoMelara 127mm

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1478162303912656896

If they only count the surface combatants with guided missile, but yeah long live...

 

[FPXAllen]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1478162303912656896

If they only count the surface combatants with guided missile, but yeah long live...

Ideally, given the geographical condition of Indonesia, our navy should at least on par with Japan in that chart.

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1478162303912656896

If they only count the surface combatants with guided missile, but yeah long live...

A personal thread of mine about naval balance in Asia Pacific. I'll kept on updating.

Asia Pacific Naval Balance 2021

Compiling Asia Pacific naval balance BIG 7 Fleet count (active/commissioned) Country/Type USA People's Republic of China Japan Taiwan Australia Republic of Korea Canada CVN 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 CV 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 LHA/LHD 9 3 2 0 2 2 0 LPD 11 8 3 2 1 0 0...

defencehub.live

 

[Lordimperator]

A personal thread of mine about naval balance in Asia Pacific. I'll kept on updating.

Asia Pacific Naval Balance 2021

Compiling Asia Pacific naval balance BIG 7 Fleet count (active/commissioned) Country/Type USA People's Republic of China Japan Taiwan Australia Republic of Korea Canada CVN 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 CV 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 LHA/LHD 9 3 2 0 2 2 0 LPD 11 8 3 2 1 0 0...

defencehub.live

2 thumbs up,

 

[Umigami]

I don't really trust this JP article, why he still enthusiastically meet Naval Group then?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1478000067030048768

 

[Anmdt]

I don't really trust this JP article, why he still enthusiastically meet Naval Group then?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1478000067030048768

Apart from that, shouldn't Indonesian Navy be busy with mastering submarine operations with at least using the Nagapasa class before eyeing the 2000+ tonnes double decker submarine?
How do they plan to cope with advanced electronics and command components without first mastering the entry level submarine?

 

[Umigami]

Apart from that, shouldn't Indonesian Navy be busy with mastering submarine operations with at least using the Nagapasa class before eyeing the 2000+ tonnes double decker submarine?
How do they plan to cope with advanced electronics and command components without first mastering the entry level submarine?

Brazilian sign contract for Riachuelo class in 2009 and get the first unit in 2020, there is still time.

Brazilian Navy only using u209 too before, and Malaysia never even use submarine before, how about adopting their learning curve?

 

[Lordimperator]

double decker submarine?

Riachuelo is a double decker?

 

[Anmdt]

Brazilian sign contract for Riachuelo class in 2009 and get the first unit in 2020, there is still time.

Brazilian Navy only using u209 too before, and Malaysia never even use submarine before, how about adopting their learning curve?

The news is telling by 2024 (yes technically impossible, even 2026-2027 is technically impossible but i am lazy to convince people on those), for Brazil yes they have had enough time to be adjusted with new tech, plus they have been upgrading their U209 throughout the time and actively using the upgraded hulls.

For Malaysia, would you consider Malaysian submarine force as lethal anytime soon or on par with the any regional power? Since the news is again stating Indonesian Navy's goal to be on par with regional powers.

 

[Lordimperator]

on par with regional powers

Singapore, Vietnam Navy?

 

[Anmdt]

Singapore, Vietnam Navy?

Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, Korea.

I wouldn't consider a navy's submarine division as a power if it didn't have operational history of 10 years in minimum.