Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Lordimperator]

What is that rotating radar?

my guess is Cenk S

 

[Umigami]

Also why we need that second mast there?

 

[Umigami]

Well, happy experimenting everybody...

 

[Anmdt]

What is that rotating radar?

CENK-S (CENK-400)
and there is MAR-D (CENK-200) on the secondary mast on the rear side, that serves as helicopter approach radar. So far TN's LST and DIMDEG utilizes MAR-D as helicopter approach radar and main volumetric search radar.

 

[Lordimperator]

Well, happy experimenting everybody...

now iam interested with the VLS choice

 

[Soman45]

Are we adapting STOM ?

Before Garibaldi, AL already aiming for LHD, also with a lot of exercise we did with US marine, it's supposed to be, right?

Apparently we have already prepared for its name, and it's a person's name.

 

[Lordimperator]

Apparently we have already prepared for its name, and it's a person's name.

same as the VIP ships?

 

[Soman45]

same as the VIP ships?

Just wait for it

 

[Lordimperator]

Just wait for it

crystal clear.

 

[Umigami]

Apparently we have already prepared for its name, and it's a person's name.

KRI Soekarno

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857739919751524536

From MOD stated that 2nd FMP keel laying progress fastened from the schedule. Also the ceremonial held at Submarine fabrication hanggar from the pic.

 

[Mandala]

Naval News Comments​

Second Red White frigate design comparison. PT PAL picture.

The first steel-cutting for this second frigate was held on June 5, 2024. Notably, the design presented during the keel laying differs from the initial concept seen in official illustrations at previous ceremony. The most significant change is the main mast, which now features a radar system resembling the ÇAFRAD by Turkish company Aselsan.

The Red White frigates are part of Indonesia’s ongoing efforts to modernise its navy (TNI AL) as well as enhance the capabilities of its domestic defence industry so that it could build larger and more complex surface combatants. The vessels are based on Babcock’s Arrowhead 140 design.


Full article: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/11/indonesia-lays-keel-of-second-red-white-frigate/

 

[Anmdt]

Naval News Comments​

Second Red White frigate design comparison. PT PAL picture.

The first steel-cutting for this second frigate was held on June 5, 2024. Notably, the design presented during the keel laying differs from the initial concept seen in official illustrations at previous ceremony. The most significant change is the main mast, which now features a radar system resembling the ÇAFRAD by Turkish company Aselsan.

The Red White frigates are part of Indonesia’s ongoing efforts to modernise its navy (TNI AL) as well as enhance the capabilities of its domestic defence industry so that it could build larger and more complex surface combatants. The vessels are based on Babcock’s Arrowhead 140 design.


Full article: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/11/indonesia-lays-keel-of-second-red-white-frigate/

I can not confirm if this is CAFRAD, only IFF module and Fire Control Radar resembles of Aselsan's products. EW suite is too much like Leonardo's, radar modules on the mainmast are small to be UMR (S) of CAFRAD and likely large to be CFR (X band)

So far we can only confirm;
Akrep X/Ku band FCR/Illuminator
Cenk-400 S band (also known as Cenk-S) 3D radar
Cenk-200 X band (also known as MAR-D) auxillary (helicopter approach radar)

While possibly;
Gökdeniz-100/35StA CIWS on the B (rear) position
Omni directional CAFRAD IFF module on top of the mast, beneath ESM
AREAS-2N AESA ECCM on the sides of the mast.

All we need is an HD picture mates, no insiders from PT. PAL to get one?

 

[Lordimperator]

I can not confirm if this is CAFRAD, only IFF module and Fire Control Radar resembles of Aselsan's products. EW suite is too much like Leonardo's, radar modules on the mainmast are small to be UMR (S) of CAFRAD and likely large to be CFR (X band)

So far we can only confirm;
Akrep X/Ku band FCR/Illuminator
Cenk-400 S band (also known as Cenk-S) 3D radar
Cenk-200 X band (also known as MAR-D) auxillary (helicopter approach radar)

While possibly;
Gökdeniz-100/35StA CIWS on the B (rear) position
Omni directional CAFRAD IFF module on top of the mast, beneath ESM
AREAS-2N AESA ECCM on the sides of the mast.

All we need is an HD picture mates, no insiders from PT. PAL to get one?

They havent disclosed the latest config imagery 🫢, lembaga Keris FB hasnt said its the final image even being used as ceremonial banner.

 

[Anmdt]

They havent disclosed the latest config imagery 🫢, lembaga Keris FB hasnt said its the final image even being used as ceremonial banner.

It should be the latest available version with Leonardo radar + EW suite then. Looking forward to the most recent configuration.

 

[Lordimperator]

It should be the latest available version with Leonardo radar + EW suite then. Looking forward to the most recent configuration.

Lembaga Keris admin commented that all in Turkiye sensor and ew suite. But you hit the spot for the secondary radar.

 

[kanalkanan]

Naval News Comments​

Second Red White frigate design comparison. PT PAL picture.

The first steel-cutting for this second frigate was held on June 5, 2024. Notably, the design presented during the keel laying differs from the initial concept seen in official illustrations at previous ceremony. The most significant change is the main mast, which now features a radar system resembling the ÇAFRAD by Turkish company Aselsan.

The Red White frigates are part of Indonesia’s ongoing efforts to modernise its navy (TNI AL) as well as enhance the capabilities of its domestic defence industry so that it could build larger and more complex surface combatants. The vessels are based on Babcock’s Arrowhead 140 design.


Full article: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/11/indonesia-lays-keel-of-second-red-white-frigate/

we can't even be consistent when the ship is already built, how the country is managed has been clearly demonstrated

consistent with inconsistency

It's not just about tricking the enemy, even the creators are fooled

 

[satria]