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[R4duga]

The X18 Antasena is now called a Combat Boat.


The X18 Combat Boat in the water in Indonesia. JCD picture.

Indonesia’s New X18 Combat Boat Begins On-Water Tests​

Indonesia's X18 Combat Boat program is moving towards first delivery, John Cockerill Defence (JCD), which is supplying the armament, told Naval News. A protoype has been put in the waters on April 28 in Banyuwangi Waters.​

Nathan Gain 07 May 2021

Formerly known as the "Tank Boat", the Combat Boat was developed for the Indonesian Army (TNI AD) and will be known locally as "Antanesa".

« The boat will undergo builder trials to check all of its functions on the water. The boat is expected to support TNI operation in swamp, river, coastal and sea as well as coast guard duties », PT Pindad said on its Facebook page.

The X18 Combat Boat is a program launched by the Indonesian Ministry of Defense. Formerly known as « Tank Boat », it is executed by a consortium in which PT Pindad is the lead integration in collaboration with PT Lundin (North Sea Boats), PT Len Industri (Persero), and PT Hariff. These boats are intended for the Indonesian Army (TNI AD) and will be known locally as “Antanesa”.

This « APC » variant of the Combat Boat is primarily designed for troop transport tasks. It will be capable of carrying up to 60 troops, 5 tons of cargo, drones and will be manned by a 5 strong crew.

« Equipped with 30mm RCWS and two 12,7mm machine guns, the boat is prepared to protect Indonesia’s sovereignty and territorial waters, » PT Pindad adds.

The X18 Combat Boat has been launched on April 28 in Banyuwangi Waters (PT Pindad picture)

The vessel integrates John Cockerill Defense’s (JCD) Cockerill 3030 unmanned turret. The Belgian company also made engineering and construction improvements in regards to the marine environment and the specificity of the catamaran composite material.

The Combat Boat will deploy quadcopter drones for ISR taks.

The APC variant will have further enhancement, such as missile firing capabilities, JCD added. Drones integration, for example, is currently being tested. Provided by NORTHSEADRONES, a cooperation between Norway and Indonesia, the drone will be linked with the boat and turret and will be used for surveillance and reconnaissance tasks.

Sea trials will last until the end of May. The Factory Acceptance test (FAT) step, as well as the site acceptance test (SAT) and harbor acceptance test (HAT), will all happen in May 2021. At sea live firing tests will begin next month. The delivery to the TNI-AD has not been decided yet, but could occur likely around September 2021.

Indonesia's New X18 Combat Boat begins on-water tests - Naval News

Indonesia's X18 Combat Boat program is moving towards first delivery, John Cockerill Defence (JCD), which is supplying the armament, told Naval News. A protoype has been put in the waters on April 28 in Banyuwangi Waters.

www.navalnews.com

those one norwegian drone company (Robotaviation) are trying hard to penetrate indonesian market , after cooperating with PT.Bhinneka dwi persada for promoting their Skyrobot FX450 (Rajawali 720) , they are now cooperating with lundin and creating NORTHSEADRONES to promote their Skyrobot FX-Y , though if they really have intention to give full technological transfer , KKIP should give them a chance .

 

[Indos]

@Indos I read somewhere that we're on our way to reverse engineer rolls royce spey engine, by (if I'm not mistaken) NTP..

Do you know more about this?

Well, DI Director talked about engine study is included in our cruise missile program, but I dont know about the real implementation of that statement

 

[Indos]

Any way our new PAL Director is really a huge boost for PAL future development

 

[Gary]

Well, DI Director talked about engine study is included in our cruise missile program, but I dont know about the real implementation of that statement

I'm talking bout this, tbh I'm a huge sceptic if we're able to reverse engineer this.

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But if successful it's a huge leap for us.

 

[Indos]

I'm talking bout this, tbh I'm a huge sceptic if we're able to reverse engineer this.

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But if successful it's a huge leap for us.

Despite being an avionics company, but I have seen video of InfoGlobal make jet engine and tested it, not official video but look like recorded by their internal employee

 

[Gary]

Some PT.BBI engine portfolio, most (if not all) are based on Doosan marine engine.

more on that here:

http://ptbbi.co.id/portofolio/index/all#diesel

 

[Madokafc]

Bad news

Pabrik di Kawasan PT Pindad Bandung Terbakar

Pabrik di kawasan PT Pindad dikabarkan mengalami kebakaran. Petugas pemadam kebakaran saat ini tengah meluncur ke lokasi.

news.detik.com

 

[Var Dracon]

Some PT.BBI engine portfolio, most (if not all) are based on Doosan marine engine.

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more on that here:

http://ptbbi.co.id/portofolio/index/all#diesel

They better upgrade their manufacturing facilities... We don't want BBI to just "jalan di tempat" without making any progress for 10 years like some other manufacturing company (BBI for now is making engine using CKD system, I don't even know what component they make for those engines)

 

[R4duga]

antasena X18 Combat Boat cruising at full speed .
https://www.instagram.com/p/COu0jSKlHot/

 

[Panca]

42K views · 4.9K likes | Alutsista Indonesia on Instagram: "(A.I) Uji coba X18 Antasena 😁😁 Source: @dhendrayudha #TNI #TNIAD #TNIAL #TNIAU #AD #AL #AU #Indonesia #aitankboat"

4,944 likes, 219 comments - alutsista.indonesia on May 11, 2021: "(A.I) Uji coba X18 Antasena 😁😁 Source: @dhendrayudha #TNI #TNIAD #TNIAL #TNIAU #AD #AL #A..."

www.instagram.com

Test ngebut

 

[Var Dracon]

42K views · 4.9K likes | Alutsista Indonesia on Instagram: "(A.I) Uji coba X18 Antasena 😁😁 Source: @dhendrayudha #TNI #TNIAD #TNIAL #TNIAU #AD #AL #AU #Indonesia #aitankboat"

4,944 likes, 219 comments - alutsista.indonesia on May 11, 2021: "(A.I) Uji coba X18 Antasena 😁😁 Source: @dhendrayudha #TNI #TNIAD #TNIAL #TNIAU #AD #AL #A..."

www.instagram.com

Test ngebut

Sama aja kayak video di atasnya
It is the same as the video above it

 

[BBOn]

KAEMS, Airbus Team up for CN-235, C-212 MRO Support

12 Mei 2021 CN-235 and C-212 aircraft in the 1988 advertisement (photo : aviationancestry) KAI signs MOU for technology exchange with Airbus...

defense-studies.blogspot.com

KAEMS CEO Jo Yeon-gi emphasized, “By cooperation with ADS, we are able to provide the best maintenance technology and quality to customers. Based on KAMES' technology, we will maximize synergy in the MRO field.”

KAEMS added, "We plan to provide services and innovative MRO solutions to customers in Asia through Airbus global MRO network in the future."


Sokor surely really know how to manage their expense and manage to show of how independent they are

 

[trishna_amrta]

42K views · 4.9K likes | Alutsista Indonesia on Instagram: "(A.I) Uji coba X18 Antasena 😁😁 Source: @dhendrayudha #TNI #TNIAD #TNIAL #TNIAU #AD #AL #AU #Indonesia #aitankboat"

4,944 likes, 219 comments - alutsista.indonesia on May 11, 2021: "(A.I) Uji coba X18 Antasena 😁😁 Source: @dhendrayudha #TNI #TNIAD #TNIAL #TNIAU #AD #AL #A..."

www.instagram.com

Test ngebut

Hate to tell you guys, but that kind of speed is hardly one would refer as "ngebut" even on calm water

 

[R4duga]

happy eid everyone

it turns out the previous topic about adour engine reverse engineering ,is only about MRO .

https://infoglobal.co.id/en/detailnews/126

 

[trishna_amrta]

it turns out the previous topic about adour engine reverse engineering ,is only about MRO .

https://infoglobal.co.id/en/detailnews/126

No surprise there

 

[Mandala]

Joint production of ships with Indonesia Strengthening security cooperation for the JMSDF prototype

2021.5.11 22:27
Political policy

Prime Minister's Office = Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo It was revealed on the 11th that the Japanese government is aiming to receive orders for ships from Indonesia using the "joint production" method based on the Maritime Self-Defense Force's escort ships. Under the three principles of defense equipment transfer formulated in 2014, "export" can only be permitted for equipment used for rescue and alert surveillance, and in order to transfer a escort ship capable of killing, it must be joint production, not export. This is because it is difficult to admit. It will be the first time if joint production of ships is realized.

Japan, Italy and Turkey are competing for orders for the relocation of ships to Indonesia. If Japan receives an order, through joint production, it will be possible to strengthen security cooperation with Indonesia, which is a major power of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) and is exposed to the intimidation of China in the South China Sea.

The first ship to be prototyped in joint production with Indonesia is the JMSDF's new escort ship "FFM", which is scheduled to be commissioned in March next year. In addition to anti-submarine warfare, anti-aircraft warfare, and naval battle, it also has anti-aircraft warfare functions.

Read more:

〈独自〉インドネシアと艦艇共同生産　海自装備原型に　安保協力を強化

日本政府が海上自衛隊の護衛艦を原型にした「共同生産」方式で、インドネシアへの艦艇の受注を目指すことが１１日、分かった。平成２６年策定の防衛装備移転三原則で「輸出…

www.sankei.com

 

[FPXAllen]

Joint production of ships with Indonesia Strengthening security cooperation for the JMSDF prototype

2021.5.11 22:27
Political policy

Prime Minister's Office = Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo It was revealed on the 11th that the Japanese government is aiming to receive orders for ships from Indonesia using the "joint production" method based on the Maritime Self-Defense Force's escort ships. Under the three principles of defense equipment transfer formulated in 2014, "export" can only be permitted for equipment used for rescue and alert surveillance, and in order to transfer a escort ship capable of killing, it must be joint production, not export. This is because it is difficult to admit. It will be the first time if joint production of ships is realized.

Japan, Italy and Turkey are competing for orders for the relocation of ships to Indonesia. If Japan receives an order, through joint production, it will be possible to strengthen security cooperation with Indonesia, which is a major power of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) and is exposed to the intimidation of China in the South China Sea.

The first ship to be prototyped in joint production with Indonesia is the JMSDF's new escort ship "FFM", which is scheduled to be commissioned in March next year. In addition to anti-submarine warfare, anti-aircraft warfare, and naval battle, it also has anti-aircraft warfare functions.

Read more:

〈独自〉インドネシアと艦艇共同生産　海自装備原型に　安保協力を強化

日本政府が海上自衛隊の護衛艦を原型にした「共同生産」方式で、インドネシアへの艦艇の受注を目指すことが１１日、分かった。平成２６年策定の防衛装備移転三原則で「輸出…

www.sankei.com

So if this deal got through, will that means that all 8 of those Mogami-class frigates will be built / assembled in Indonesia?

I used to think that Japan is now able to market their defense products without such limitations anymore, but I guess I've completely forgotten that those limitations still exist.

 

[Anmdt]

So if this deal got through, will that means that all 8 of those Mogami-class frigates will be built / assembled in Indonesia?

I used to think that Japan is now able to market their defense products without such limitations anymore, but I guess I've completely forgotten that those limitations still exist.

They can easily surpass the limitations:
First few hulls are built with simple equipments for navigation as an OPV, ToT for construction is completed in 3rd year, and equipped in Indonesia +3 years another portion of ToT has been achieved.
This would accelerate the ToT process, one would go on regarding to the construction through first constructions in Japan in first 3 years, while in the second round another ToT will take place during equipping,installing critical parts and weapons in the next 3 years.
Finally beyond a ship, entire process would move on by construction in Indonesia in 4th year.

Lets assume building a ship (T0) with FFBNW features missing weapons exported as an "OPV", took 3 years (T3),
Another 3 years for both ships to equip those with Weapons, CMS, Radar, CIWS in Indonesia (T6).
Meanwhile after 3 years, construction would start in Indonesia (T3) and equipping those ships would fall into the time right after delivery of the first 2 ships (T6).
In a pure ToT plan, Indonesia would need to wait for the ToT for (T5) years, delivery of the first 2-3 vessels (T6).

So overally, this is happening for good, it will accelerate the ToT schedule by 2 years at least.

Shown in a flowchart:

 

[Var Dracon]

Some PT.BBI engine portfolio, most (if not all) are based on Doosan marine engine.

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more on that here:

http://ptbbi.co.id/portofolio/index/all#diesel

Comparing PT BBI's diesel engine products on their website and Doosan website, it turns out that they merely copy paste what available in Doosan website. The images, even the description text are the same as in Doosan website.

See https://www.doosanengine.com/en/engine/generator/diesel-generator

Edit: Even the parts too

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[Mandala]

N219 & Elang Hitam MALE UAV promotional video by LAPAN RI for Hannover Messe 2021.