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[whatintarnation]

N219 & Elang Hitam MALE UAV promotional video by LAPAN RI for Hannover Messe 2021.

So many grammatical errors....

and to think this is an official video released by LAPAN, for Hannover Messe 2021, no less

The video editing imo was superb, it's just the script that's dodgy lol

ffs

 

[Var Dracon]

N219 & Elang Hitam MALE UAV promotional video by LAPAN RI for Hannover Messe 2021.

At 3:25 they put Elang Hitam as the same class of MQ-9 Reaper, that should not be the case. Reaper is heavier, has more powerful engine, and more hardpoint. Other UAVs of the same class are these:

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[Anmdt]

At 3:25 they put Elang Hitam as the same class of MQ-9 Reaper, that should not be the case. Reaper is heavier, has more powerful engine, and more hardpoint. Other UAVs of the same class are these:

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Gotta update Anka's Payload to 350 kg, endurance to 36+, i really wonder how the operation radius was calculated though but i am sure Anka has wider in ISR mode. These specs are avaliable for PD-155 variant without upgraded wings.

 

[trishna_amrta]

So many grammatical errors....

and to think this is an official video released by LAPAN, for Hannover Messe 2021, no less

The video editing imo was superb, it's just the script that's dodgy lol

IF they know how to create great content than they would be working in private sector instead.

 

[schuimpjes]

IF they know how to create great content than they would be working in private sector instead.

Common calon mertua like that kind of jobs btw wkwk, not talking about Riady's (Lippo) family, surely they are more cosmopolitan.

But we have to admit, countries like US, SK, Japan, or now even PRC that their private sectors are mainly the players, they have more technological prowess.

 

[Mandala]

New nice pics of the X18 Antasena during trials by Iman Teguh Prasetyo.

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[Mandala]

X18 Antasena. Credit to Tank Boat.

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[schuimpjes]

X18 Antasena. Credit to Tank Boat.

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No joke, I want government to formulate and apply strategies with incentive or other way like minimum yearly procurement spend for private companies to make our private companies to grow. So, we can see a many companies competing, even outnumber and outcompete the SOE.

Increase more GDP, make more (good paying) jobs, out of necessity they have to be creative, innovative to win the competition. That's a win ++++.

Call me a capitalist or whatever, I don't care. Compare North and South Korea, the differences are peak.

 

[Madokafc]

No joke, I want government to formulate and apply strategies with incentive or other way like minimum yearly procurement spend for private companies to make our private companies to grow. So, we can see a many companies competing, even outnumber and outcompete the SOE.

Increase more GDP, make more (good paying) jobs, out of necessity they have to be creative, innovative to win the competition. That's a win ++++.

Increase your Defense budget, especially for procurement budget post first, then maintenance and logistic budget second.

 

[Madokafc]

Indonesia’s Medium Tank Program Features Allison Transmission​

Allison’s cross-drive transmission powers Indonesia’s Harimau (Black Tiger) Medium Tank.
May 18, 2021 04:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time
INDIANAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Allison Transmission, the largest global manufacturer of medium- and heavy-duty fully automatic transmissions for commercial and military vehicles, is an active participant in defense programs around the world. Most recently, Allison Transmission has proudly collaborated with Caterpillar Defense, FNSS and PT Pindad, to provide a new medium tank to the Indonesian Armed Forces, known as the Harimau. Nail Kurt, FNSS General Manager and CEO, reports planned production of between 200 and 400 of these tanks that are uniquely suited for the dense vegetation prevalent in Asia. (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/turkish-indonesian-tank-ready-for-mass-production/1247122)

“We appreciate the opportunity to provide the propulsion systems for this critically important and impressive vehicle for the Indonesian Armed Forces”
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The Harimau is a new medium weight tank designed to increase the capability of the Armed Forces mechanized forces, providing Indonesia with the mobility and firepower capability needed in some of the most difficult terrain. The Harimau program is one of the Indonesia’s highest priority signature modernization initiatives and has passed extensive testing by both FNSS/PT Pindad and the Indonesian Armed Forces and now enters full production. The Harimau tank relies on Allison’s proven cross-drive transmission technology, designed for medium-tracked combat vehicles, and provides propulsion, steering and braking. The automatic transmission, manufactured under license by Caterpillar Defense in Shrewsbury, UK, has powered combat vehicles worldwide for decades.
“We appreciate the opportunity to provide the propulsion systems for this critically important and impressive vehicle for the Indonesian Armed Forces,” said Dana Pittard, Vice President for Defense Programs at Allison Transmission. “As we continue to support Indonesia with our world-class fully automatic transmissions, Allison is also collaborating with customers around the world to meet their current and future transmission requirements for medium weight armored vehicles. Allison Transmission is incredibly proud to collaborate with Caterpillar Defense, FNSS and PT Pindad to deliver quality products at tremendous value.”
Allison works with OEMs around the world to design, develop, manufacture and support transmissions that deliver in the most extreme conditions. For fleets that are developing new wheeled or tracked vehicles, Allison can tailor a transmission specifically for that application. Allison engineers and manufactures reliable and fully customizable propulsion solutions, so customers experience reduced downtime and increased ability to accomplish critical objectives.
About Allison Transmission
Allison Transmission (NYSE: ALSN) is a leading designer and manufacturer of vehicle propulsion solutions for commercial and defense vehicles, the largest global manufacturer of medium- and heavy-duty fully automatic transmissions, and a leader in electrified propulsion systems that Improve the Way the World Works. Allison products are used in a wide variety of applications, including on-highway trucks (distribution, refuse, construction, fire and emergency), buses (school, transit and coach), motorhomes, off-highway vehicles and equipment (energy, mining and construction applications) and defense vehicles (tactical wheeled and tracked). Founded in 1915, the company is headquartered in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. With a presence in more than 150 countries, Allison has regional headquarters in the Netherlands, China and Brazil, manufacturing facilities in the USA, Hungary and India, as well as global engineering resources, including electrification engineering centers in Indianapolis, Indiana, Auburn Hills, Michigan and London in the United Kingdom. Allison also has more than 1,400 independent distributor and dealer locations worldwide. For more information, visit allisontransmission.com.

Indonesia’s Medium Tank Program Features Allison Transmission

Allison Transmission, the largest global manufacturer of medium- and heavy-duty fully automatic transmissions for commercial and military vehicles, is

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[schuimpjes]

Increase your Defense budget, especially for procurement budget post first, then maintenance and logistic budget second.

I think, codified rule that few (or even majority) percent of our defense spending have to be spend to private companies also a incentive.

 

[Madokafc]

I think, codified rule that few (or even majority) percent of our defense spending have to be spend to private companies also a incentive.

Where is the money then? And where is they came from?

Just like i said without market no one is willing to do work and business, and military products market in Indonesia is TNI, Police and Bakamla, and Indonesia already had regulation about Defense industry

Inspektorat Jenderal Kemhan RI

www.kemhan.go.id

 

[R4duga]

X18 Antasena. Credit to Tank Boat.

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they could add a small Marine Crane A-Frames for the RHIB Deployment and retrieval , just like the south africa SAS Tobie catamaran patrol vessels .

 

[schuimpjes]

Where is the money then? And where is they came from?

Just like i said without market no one is willing to do work and business, and military products market in Indonesia is TNI, Police and Bakamla, and Indonesia already had regulation about Defense industry

Inspektorat Jenderal Kemhan RI

www.kemhan.go.id

To increase demand for private companies, we can just said "hey you all, listen, our spending have to be spend to you this certain percent (more than 50 percent is the best) of our budget. So, we can't buy more than that certain percent to spend on SOEs. WE ARE DEPEND ON YOU. ".

The main point is more demand right? We just increase more demand for private companies there, let them compete to for that sweet, delicious, defense spending pie.

 

[Anmdt]

they could add a small Marine Crane A-Frames for the RHIB Deployment and retrieval , just like the south africa SAS Tobie catamaran patrol vessels .
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Luckily X18 is not a SAT /SOF boat yet, they can even make a dedicated bay between the hulls which the RHIB can be pulled up and dropped with a simple crane/rails and personnel may jump in easily, or at best pull up with an A frame or by human power.
If it becomes a SAT/SOF boat like Mark V, then it is a must RHIBs should be going on and off easily from the rear, front or side platforms, South African boat is really a bad example of how a SOF boat shouldn't be:

It is hard to make such a thing on Catamaran, they will either use some hydraulic platform to lower while RHIBs are being loaded and dropped or find some other innovative stuff to make SOF RHIBs to easily leave and get aboard. They also may need to manage waterjets and elongate the skirt above them. PT. Lundin can create an effective solution when it is asked.

Wait, i assumed it is a SAS/SOF boat, SAS is for their identification of the south african navy ships. No problem here, it is just an inshore patrol boat and anything is fine.

 

[Anmdt]

To increase demand for private companies, we can just said "hey you all, listen, our spending have to be spend to you this certain percent (more than 50 percent is the best) of our budget. So, we can't buy more than that certain percent to spend on SOEs. WE ARE DEPEND ON YOU. ".

The main point is more demand right? We just increase more demand for private companies there, let them compete to for that sweet, delicious, defense spending pie.

Let private companies feel you need them, and they then ten fold prices to maximize profits if they have bad intentions.
They should be supported only for R&D through some incentives from funds dedicated for R&D and localization, in return they should complete with SOE in the regular basis using their "private" leverage.

SOE should be enforced to use private subcontractors (at a percentage of total budget), diversify suppliers and create an ecosystem for the major projects they are receiving. They shouldn't be just awarded with a project on golden platter, but with some conditions.

Such as; an item is needed for army, the RfP should rather start with concept submission for companies, if some companies apply for R&D funding, and eligible for that (by presenting their CDR), they should receive a fund to create their proof of concepts, join the tender and if they are the winner they get whole fund for the purchase. Concortiums can also be established in this way and parts of the Item can be distributed among some companies who does their job best.

In this way,
1st: concept/item/IP rights will be owned by state, can be manufactured by any other company in case the original company going bankrupt, dissolved, going "crazy" and increasing prices.
2nd: companies will be motivated for R&D
3rd: Load work, risks and incomes will be shared among companies.

 

[Madokafc]

To increase demand for private companies, we can just said "hey you all, listen, our spending have to be spend to you this certain percent (more than 50 percent is the best) of our budget. So, we can't buy more than that certain percent to spend on SOEs. WE ARE DEPEND ON YOU. ".

The main point is more demand right? We just increase more demand for private companies there, let them compete to for that sweet, delicious, defense spending pie.

Can't do, either SoE or private companies must compete against each other to get their own respective share of business opportunity that's the plan.

So far MoD to also had bad experience when deals against private companies, including a very bad private companies who severely underperformed, some even breaching the contract, some do blatant bribing practice to push their bellow the specs products and so on.

 

[schuimpjes]

SOE should be enforced to use private subcontractors

For this case, as I know, Pindad already doing it, but we still can't see significant peak increase of differences.

Let private companies feel you need them, and they then ten fold prices to maximize profits if they have bad intentions.

That's why the producers have to understand the consumers and vice versa. More talking, more meeting, and other sweet things can bend the mountains, until you can't know more who's lobbying who. That's a friendly productive relations and negotiations, both parties understand each other. Unleash our art of pleasing people.

Such as; an item is needed for army, the RfP should rather start with concept submission for companies, if some companies apply for R&D funding, and eligible for that (by presenting their CDR), they should receive a fund to create their proof of concepts, join the tender and if they are the winner they get whole fund for the purchase. Concortiums can also be established in this way and parts of the Item can be distributed among some companies who does their job best.

This is how US defense companies works right? The military open a tender for this certain stuffs, after that companies will bring a blueprints and asking for RnD budgets, and so on.

 

[schuimpjes]

very bad private companies who severely underperformed, some even breaching the contract, some do blatant bribing practice to push their bellow the specs products and so on.

If you talking about rekanan, ya, they are chose by the based of kedekatan and usually very unhealthy, and mainly they are only third party btw, not the producers Itself.

They will bring you something blablabla, gifts and bribe have only minor differences. Trust me, if you can resist that, your integrity are to the roof.

 

[BBOn]

X18 Antasena. Credit to Tank Boat.

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Just install the reel already