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That 12 cents per kWh is absurd. Solar already cost less than 5 cents per kWh and is forecasted to cost 2 cents per kWh by 2030 but we will be leeched by the Russians for fifteen years and pay a premium 12cents/kWh. That is SIX times more than what the alternative will cost by the end of this decade. They have a contract for scr*wing us for fifteen years and we go ask for more. And in case you don't know under which legal frame and ownership structure this power plant is being built, google the term "YAP İŞLET, SAHİP OL". It's a scheme our "shrewd" politicians came up with. I'm sure Russian's are very proud of it but I am definitely not.

I don't how can people be so oblivious to the political climate they're living in. Europe, at the expense of their economical collapse, went overboard and sanctioned Russia to oblivion and didn't bow down to Russia's demands even though it will bite Europe in the ass. And in this circumstances, you, Turkey, whose majority of exports depends on EU, goes and poses with and makes deals with the "devil". How can you be so confident that these actions won't have consequences? Will they be more lenient with you than they're with themselves? Are these deals worth the risk? Do you know about this map?

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It's called "European Customs Union". Can you image what will happen to Turkey's economy if it's removed from it?
Here is another clamor, if there is no Europe, we will die. Nothing will happen, don't worry. If we can't sell to them, they can't sell to us. We already have a trade deficit with Europe, so it might even be more beneficial. If there is no European market, we will open up to other markets.
 

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Here is another clamor, if there is no Europe, we will die. Nothing will happen, don't worry. If we can't sell to them, they can't sell to us. We already have a trade deficit with Europe, so it might even be more beneficial. If there is no European market, we will open up to other markets.
You couldn't have been more wrong. We have a trade surplus with the EU. According to TUIK data,

In 2021,

🇪🇺 We have exported 93 billions dollars worth of goods and services to the EU. On the other hand,
We have imported 85.3 billions dollars worth of goods and services from them.

That is a trade surplus of 7.7 billions of dollars.

🇷🇺 To Russia ,In the same year, we have exported a meagre 5.7 billions dollars of goods whereas,
we have imported a colossal 29 billions dollars of goods.

That is a trade deficit of 23.3 billions of dollars.

🇨🇳To China, In the same year, we have exported a laughable(considering the size of the market), 3.6 billions dollars of goods whereas, we have imported 32.2 billions dollars of goods.

That is a trade deficit of 28.6 billions of dollars.

I hope, now, you know better where we stand in terms of trade balance with the respective countries.

Source : TUIK
You can find the statistics on the right side of the page. You need to download them if you wanna know more.
 

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You couldn't have been more wrong. We have a trade surplus with the EU. According to TUIK data,

In 2021,

🇪🇺 We have exported 93 billions dollars worth of goods and services to the EU. On the other hand,
We have imported 85.3 billions dollars worth of goods and services from them.

That is a trade surplus of 7.7 billions of dollars.

🇷🇺 To Russia ,In the same year, we have exported a meagre 5.7 billions dollars of goods whereas,
we have imported a colossal 29 billions dollars of goods.

That is a trade deficit of 23.3 billions of dollars.

🇨🇳To China, In the same year, we have exported a laughable(considering the size of the market), 3.6 billions dollars of goods whereas, we have imported 32.2 billions dollars of goods.

That is a trade deficit of 28.6 billions of dollars.

I hope, now, you know better where we stand in terms of trade balance with the respective countries.

Source : TUIK
You can find the statistics on the right side of the page. You need to download them if you wanna know more.
evebody has trade deficit against China and against Russia if you are and importer of gas, oil and metals.
 

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evebody has trade deficit against China and against Russia if you are and importer of gas, oil and metals.
That doesn't help the point what @bisbis was trying to make. Besides, the metal, raw material import from china makes only around 8% percent of the total import from the country.

If you wanna assume his role, tell me, which country(ies) supposed to replace the EU? Name some of them, and I do a bit of research and know better thusly. I'm open to learn more about it.
 

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That doesn't help the point what @bisbis was trying to make. Besides, the metal, raw material import from china makes only around 8% percent of the total import from the country.

If you wanna assume his role, tell me, which country(ies) supposed to replace the EU? Name some of them, and I do a bit of research and know better thusly. I'm open to learn more about it.
i told that about Russia, China sells cheap things that will find customers in every market. its normal. other countries import way moree
 

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i told that about Russia, China sells cheap things that will find customers in every market. its normal. other countries import way moree
I tried to whip up a table which shows the import and export numbers with China and a colored bar to show the trade balance of the country.

For instance, at the top, Australia exports 116.8 billions and imports 72.9 of goods from China which 62% of the total trade volume comes from the export of Australia to China.(116.8 / (116.8 + 72.9) = 0.62)

The data is from the most recent year, 2021.

Take a look at the list and see where we are.

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Source of the data is https://tradingeconomics.com/
 

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I tried to whip up a table which shows the import and export numbers with China and a colored bar to show the trade balance of the country.

For instance, at the top, Australia exports 116.8 billions and imports 72.9 of goods from China which 62% of the total trade volume comes from the export of Australia to China.(116.8 / (116.8 + 72.9) = 0.62)

The data is from the most recent year, 2021.

Take a look at the list and see where we are.

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Source of the data is https://tradingeconomics.com/
all those other Eu contries had deficit against China, only those sell specifik product might have some advantage like Autralian coals or Brazilian meat, coffee..
 

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I tried to whip up a table which shows the import and export numbers with China and a colored bar to show the trade balance of the country.

For instance, at the top, Australia exports 116.8 billions and imports 72.9 of goods from China which 62% of the total trade volume comes from the export of Australia to China.(116.8 / (116.8 + 72.9) = 0.62)

The data is from the most recent year, 2021.

Take a look at the list and see where we are.

View attachment 49368

Source of the data is https://tradingeconomics.com/

The exports of countries like Australia, Brazil and Iran to China tend to be mining ores (REE or others) or natural resources. Similarly Turkey's vast majority of imports from Russia are natural resources. It is much better to make these comparisons after taking out those types of trades. If you don't have those resources, this part is not in your control and it doesn't make sense to worry about them.

That said, I agree that the EU is a very valuable trade partner. In general, the richer the market, the more advantageous the trade. Capturing 1% of the imports of the US or the EU is much more valuable than capturing multiple percentage points of imports of multiple African countries. There is just a lot more money to go around in rich countries.
 

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lol

only russian are prepared to sell and learn you the tech, what do you suggest?
Russians is not providing any tech. They won't even allow Turkish engineers to WORK on the damn thing.

I'm also suspicious of the claim that only Russia was prepared to cooperate with Turkey. For example the deal with Japan fell through because Turkey was the one that disagreed with Japanese terms and closed the whole project shut.

People here can be really, really blind to Russian influence within Turkish politics. It only takes one word of "West bad" for some commenters here to go running to Russia as Turkey's best friend as if the Russian Empire wasn't the #1 contributor to the bloody disintegration of the Ottoman Empire in its later years and only failed in this goal because the German Empire destroyed them from within.
 

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Russians is not providing any tech. They won't even allow Turkish engineers to WORK on the damn thing.

I'm also suspicious of the claim that only Russia was prepared to cooperate with Turkey. For example the deal with Japan fell through because Turkey was the one that disagreed with Japanese terms and closed the whole project shut.

People here can be really, really blind to Russian influence within Turkish politics. It only takes one word of "West bad" for some commenters here to go running to Russia as Turkey's best friend as if the Russian Empire wasn't the #1 contributor to the bloody disintegration of the Ottoman Empire in its later years and only failed in this goal because the German Empire destroyed them from within.
Russia schooled our students in their nuclear engineering university didn't they.
 

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Three train sets will be ready for delivery, following the completion of the certification of the National Electric Train Set prototype suitable for 160 km/h within TÜRASAŞ.
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The prototype of the national high-speed train will be completed in 2023. The design studies of the National High Speed Train Project, which is suitable for 225 kilometers per hour, will be completed and a 40 percent progress will be achieved in the prototype works.
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The National Suburban Train Set project, whose design and prototype works were started in 2021, is planned to be completed in 2023 and the sets to be produced will be used in the Gaziray project.
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E5000 Electric Mainline Locomotive will most likely be revealed until the end of 2022 or beginning of 2023.
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The design studies of the domestic metro will start in 2023.
 

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Tualcom TrNav ground-based navigation and timing system passed the tests and proved to be "more effective" than GPS satellites. This system will be used in environments where GPS will be jammed, especially in MaviVatan. Since the positioning sistem sensors will be in sizes that even a soldier can carry in a cross-border operation, the system will not be limited only to the geography of Turkiye.

 

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I mentioned the land-based GNSS project years ago it is good to see the project widened and in action.
 

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Tualcom TrNav ground-based navigation and timing system passed the tests and proved to be "more effective" than GPS satellites. This system will be used in environments where GPS will be jammed, especially in MaviVatan. Since the positioning sistem sensors will be in sizes that even a soldier can carry in a cross-border operation, the system will not be limited only to the geography of Turkiye.

This project is one of the most secret projects. It is surprising to see that this one is piblicised.
 

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Do we have nuclear carrier and submarine plans for the future?I couldn't find any source on local news sites.

But this

And this link on SMR Rectors within IAEA(International Atomic Energy Agency) WEB site
What are Small Modular Reactors (SMRs)?

And this link on Nuclear-Powered Ships
 

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Do we have nuclear carrier and submarine plans for the future?I couldn't find any source on local news sites.

But this

And this link on SMR Rectors within IAEA(International Atomic Energy Agency) WEB site
What are Small Modular Reactors (SMRs)?

And this link on Nuclear-Powered Ships
finally some good fucken news. having an indigenous SMR design is such a clutch move. right up there with actually having nukes.
 

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We don't have nuclear propulsion technology as of now and it is not a priority asset for Türkiye. However when and if we have a clean reactor technology we may very well make use of it. A thorium reactor is very well suited for this purpose.
 
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