Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[Kartal1]

Well, I think I am not clear enough. There will not be any tolerance towards cheering for civilian casualties and comments expressing support to such atrocities.

Yes, war has a violent nature but that doesn't mean that we should support wiping out people that don't have any means for self defence! We saw multiple cases of targeting of civilian population by both of the sides of this conflict. The number of casualties on both sides is in the thousands. This is unacceptable!

Showing signs of happiness caused by the deaths and injuries of innocent people including women and children, supporting such horrific acts no matter on which side of the border they took place is also not acceptable and out of the boundaries of the normal psychologic health of a human!

I will repeat myself again. We as the team of DefenceHub are doing everything possible to create a healthy environment where we can discuss wide variety of topics. We are trying to create a community with members from all around the world that are expressing themselves, create bonds, debate, teach and learn.

In order to ensure the healthy environment, prevent the propagating of terrorist and criminal ideas, keep the discussion within the widely accepted human moral boundaries, we as the DefenceHub team are forced to take measures.

FROM THIS MOMENT ON ANY POST GLORIFYING VIOLANCE AGAINST CIVILIAN POPULATION, SUPPORTING SUCH MALIGN ACTIVITIES AND ADVOCATING FOR THEM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE BAN!

Thank you!

 

[guest12]

Hamas officials say that hundreds of people have died, after what they say was an Israeli strike on the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza City.

Video shows chaotic scenes outside the hospital as emergency workers attended to casualties and took them to a nearby hospital.

The Israeli military says it is looking into the incident.

The BBC is working to verify what happened.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=652ee0a3fd63b979e1acdf3e%26Watch%3A%20Chaos%20in%20Gaza%20City%20after%20hospital%20hit%262023-10-17T19%3A30%3A48.689Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:5e1b711f-8f60-4aec-a4ec-83fd6efa27f2&pinned_post_asset_id=652ee0a3fd63b979e1acdf3e&pinned_post_type=share

Israeli side claims explosion happened because Hamas tried to launch rocket near hospital but this twitter video proves atack came from air , you can hear diving sound of the munition.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714339584857817090

 

[Sanchez]

I will not discount the possibility of a Hamas rocket being misfired. That is very much a possibility. The video above however makes me think it was an air dropped munition. If it was a misfire, we’d see the rocket engine still burning at such a short range.

absolute horrific images. Looks like it was also the hospital where the Doctors without Borders mission was set up so expect a heavy foreigner death count as well.

This strike will change the equation drastically and probably lower the possibility of a ground incursion. Sunak’s and Biden’s talks from yesterday also adds water to this.

Sad to say but this horrible act might just lower the number of Gazans being killed in the end if it stops a ground operation.

 

[Strong AI]

"Israel's National Security Council raised the travel warning to Turkey to its highest level, warning any Israelis in the country to leave immediately on Tuesday evening."

 

[Kartal1]

Guys please let's stick to topic.

Off topic posts move to relevant thread

Have fun!

 

[Bozan]

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=652ee0a3fd63b979e1acdf3e%26Watch%3A%20Chaos%20in%20Gaza%20City%20after%20hospital%20hit%262023-10-17T19%3A30%3A48.689Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:5e1b711f-8f60-4aec-a4ec-83fd6efa27f2&pinned_post_asset_id=652ee0a3fd63b979e1acdf3e&pinned_post_type=share

Israeli side claims explosion happened because Hamas tried to launch rocket near hospital but this twitter video proves atack came from air , you can hear diving sound of the munition.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714339584857817090

If that is a video of the hospital bring struck, this needs to be proven

 

[TheInsider]

It is an Israeli air strike Hamas doesn't have any weapons that can cause damage at this scale to a hospital.

 

[Xenon54]

This logic works in peace not war

Are you aware that you are legitimazing the bombing of Gaza with this statement?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714379768894788079

The UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon is rapidly leaving Lebanon.

 

[Bogeyman]

Are you aware that you are legitimazing the bombing of Gaza with this statement?

Israel-Palestinian relations are not similar to Palestine declaring its independence as in Chechnya. We are talking about two completely different nations here. Therefore, from its own perspective, Israel is not conducting an "anti-terrorism" operation. This shows that they declared war on another country or nation. This "anti-terror" operation brings destruction far beyond organizing.

When we organized trench operations, we avoided making it look like a civil war. But such a thing is not the case here. There is not even a healthy environment in which the parties can negotiate. So it's true that he said yes. The release of the hostages may be the last trump card in Hamas's hands.

Although Israel is not interested in whether the hostages survive or not, the USA is. Because they also have their own citizens there.

Correction: Chechnya was annexed by Russia. And hostages were taken during the theater raid of the Chechen mujahideen.

 

[Cypro]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713196625550606399

To explain, as a result of losing 1000 civilians in Hamas attack, Israel can inflict upwards of 1000 civilian casualties as long as Israel is proven not to be directly targeting civilians...

So if Hamas is in civilian areas, Israel has more or less free reign according to international law.

"the principle of proportionality accepts that not all civilian deaths during war are unlawful. The law recognizes the complexity and fluidity of the operational environment — including the location and movement of both enemy personnel and civilians, weather, terrain, capability of weapons and personnel, enemy tactics and conduct, for example — and seeks to minimize civilian harm while accepting that such harm cannot be eliminated altogether."

What a bullshit, proportionality or whatever does refers only to unintentional civilian casualties not bombing a civilian hospital! That is an clear war crime 100% not even acceptable in WWII

 

[Gary]

Are you aware that you are legitimazing the bombing of Gaza with this statement?

Believe it or not, as dumb as it might sound, my post is always based on cost-benefit analysis. Even if it might lead to short term pain.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Hezbollah is getting ready for action

 

[Bozan]

It is an Israeli air strike Hamas doesn't have any weapons that can cause damage at this scale to a hospital.

A fajr stockpile would

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714367757968384106

More information needed

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714370703565205787

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714390603901915279

 

[Rodeo]

A fajr stockpile would

Then there would be more explosions

 

[Bogeyman]

A fajr stockpile would

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714367757968384106

More information needed

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714370703565205787

Israel had announced that they were preparing to hit this and 5 more hospitals and that they wanted the hospitals to be evacuated. Please stop looking for excuses. Israel carried out the bombardment.

 

[TheInsider]

Then there would be more explosions

Yes, there should have been secondary explosions.
I have zero doubts that this is an IDF attack. Hamas has nothing that has enough destructive force to cause damage at this scale. This is probably done by a munition with an enhanced explosive warhead filling like PBXN.

I doubt Hamas has any rocket that can carry a big enough warhead. And we should expect the warheads of the rockets to be TNT-based Hamas can't produce RDX or HMX as such cant produce explosive materials like PBXN.

 

[Ryder]

Lmaooo

Russia and China are going to have a field day with this.

 

[Bogeyman]

A fajr stockpile would

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714367757968384106

More information needed

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714370703565205787

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714376276872450399