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[SilverMachine]

@SilverMachine is scared because a nuclear Iran and nuclear Türkiye will be deterrent against Israel's spoiled barbarity. They faithfully believe that they can do whatever to the goyim and we should just sit and watch.

I'm not "scared" of a nuclear Iran or Turkey. Because Iran & Turkey are never getting nuclear bombs. The former because Israel will kill anyone and everyone they have to in order to prevent it, and Turkey because Turkey plays nice with international norms and NATO. If they go *full* dictatorship and stop putting up airs of playing nice, then it becomes the same situation as Iran, in which case they're also not ever getting the bomb.

It's pretty simple.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I'm not "scared" of a nuclear Iran or Turkey. Because Iran & Turkey are never getting nuclear bombs. The former because Israel will kill anyone and everyone they have to in order to prevent it, and Turkey because Turkey plays nice with international norms and NATO. If they go *full* dictatorship and stop putting up airs of playing nice, then it becomes the same situation as Iran, in which case they're also not ever getting the bomb.

It's pretty simple.

You don't even know what you gonna eat 3 days later. Don't talk about "never" if Türkiye will build nukes or not, ain't your business.

 

[Relic]

It'll be interesting to see if Israel takes the strategic step to go after Iran's O&G production in any meaningful way. They could, objectively, deeply hurt the Iranian economy through the mass targeting of highly vulnerable oil production and storage sites, as well as processing and upgrading facilities. Even land based pipelines could make for juicy targets. Iran produces 3-4 million barrels per day, 1/3 to 1/2 of which is exported. If half of that is taken offline by long range Israeli strikes isn't would be awful for their economy and their people. Between 45-55% of all Iranian exports fall under the O&G sector.

It's not unreasonable to suggest that in less than 1 week, Israel could 25-30% of Iran's entire economy offline. Normally, they'd go to a country like Russia for help, but the Russians are knee deep in their own war and can't afford to bolster Iran should their economy end up ravaged. Only the Chinese would have the economic power to step in and help them out, but it's hard to say if they'd be interested at all.

 

[satria]

Israeli forces again attack UNIFIL headquarters in southern Lebanon, Sri Lankan peacekeepers injured​

Israeli artillery fired a shell that struck the main entrance of the UNIFIL command center in Naqoura, according to Lebanon’s official news agency​

Israeli forces again attack UNIFIL headquarters in southern Lebanon, Sri Lankan peacekeepers injured

Israeli artillery fired a shell that struck the main entrance of the UNIFIL command center in Naqoura, according to Lebanon’s official news agency - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

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[SilverMachine]

You don't even know what you gonna eat 3 days later. Don't talk about "never" if Türkiye will build nukes or not, ain't your business.

It's quite literally everybody's business, by definition. Turkey's in NATO, Turkey's not flaunting the whole non-proliferation norm, it's just not going to happen, short of someone even more dictatorial than Erdogan getting into power and cutting off relations with the west. And that'd be dealt with swiftly too.

 

[satria]

Israel Soldier Killed In Gaza | Hamas’ Issue New Attack Videos | IDF Trooper Hit By Hamas Sniper​

 

[contricusc]

Nowadays Erdogan government allows anybody to settle in to Turkish cyprus many people are buying houses. Unfortunately its going to ruin the place in the long term. I understand Turkish cypriots are fustrated as the Turkish government constantly intervenes in their affairs the more hostile they will become.

Erdogan is known to be a control freak because he has to control everything. At the same time his also increasing Turkish military presence in Turkish Cyprus because the Greeks one day could pull some shady shit.

These are the types of actions that I was referring to when I pointed out that Turkey is not trying to find a solution for Cyprus in good faith. Erdogan is not interested in the prosperity of Cyprus, and he doesn’t care about the well being of Turkish Cypriots.

If not even Turkish Cypriots like his policies, how could one expect Greek Cypriots to agree?

I think that both Turkish and Greek Cypriots would prefer to settle their differences in a peaceful manner and live in a united country, but Erdogan is meddling into their internal issues in order to make sure this doesn’t happen under his watch.

 

[satria]

Hezbollah Kills 12th Soldier After Firing 350 Rockets At Israel; IDF Admits Casualties In Lebanon​

 

[contricusc]

I am not a religious person and I cannot stand the Iranian theocracy. But the question "Which Muslim country will be next?" is quite appropriate.

You speak as if there is a Western conspiracy against Muslim nations, but there are clear examples of Muslim countries that are getting developed and are receiving a lot of foreign investment, and they are in good relations with the West. The UAE is the best example, but even a large country like Saudi Arabia is going into the right direction.

The secret is to not antagonize the West and threaten them, like Saddam, Gaddafi and the Iranian Ayatollahs did.

As long as a country is seen as untrustworthy or is already an enemy, or a potential one in the future, the US is clearly not going to allow it to become too powerful.

If we look deeper, the US will not allow even its closest Western allies to become too powerful, as they want to make sure there is nobody strong enough to challenge their hegemony. They actively supported the loss of British and French colonial empires in the aftermath of WW2, as they wanted to see France and the UK becoming small irrelevant players at a global level.

The US even supported Egypt against Britain and France in the Suez war, and sanctioned their “closest ally” in order to make sure it loses a strategic asset and gets even weaker.

And they also pressured Italy to give up on its nuclear ambitions, so this has really nothing to do with being Muslim, but it is the de facto policy of the US to keep countries at a limited level of power, so they cannot exert too much influence.

My point is, there is a limit on how much power the US will allow its “allies” to have, and for their perceived rivals or enemies that threshold is much lower and the limits can be enforced through war if sanctions don’t work. As an ally, at least you are not at risk of war.

 

[satria]

Southern Israel Under Attack, Four IDF Commanders Killed | Hamas Strikes Again | Gaza Fighting​

Israeli military said a projectile that crossed from the northern Gaza Strip into Israeli territory was successfully intercepted by the Air Force while another Israeli commander lost his life in the fighting with Hamas in the besieged enclave, taking the death toll in fighting in 24 hours to 4 commanders. Watch.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

It's quite literally everybody's business, by definition. Turkey's in NATO, Turkey's not flaunting the whole non-proliferation norm, it's just not going to happen, short of someone even more dictatorial than Erdogan getting into power and cutting off relations with the west. And that'd be dealt with swiftly too.

You think the world will stay the way it is. Spoiler alert, it will not. Türkiye will get those weapons one way or another. If there is a single Country on earth that possesses this weapon, then it is reason enough for my Country to have it as well. It's a matter of time, not if.

It's easy to talk living on an Island who's biggest danger are probably some animals, get lost dude. And don't answer, your opinion regarding my Country is 100% irrelevant.