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[SilverMachine]

@SilverMachine is scared because a nuclear Iran and nuclear Türkiye will be deterrent against Israel's spoiled barbarity. They faithfully believe that they can do whatever to the goyim and we should just sit and watch.

I'm not "scared" of a nuclear Iran or Turkey. Because Iran & Turkey are never getting nuclear bombs. The former because Israel will kill anyone and everyone they have to in order to prevent it, and Turkey because Turkey plays nice with international norms and NATO. If they go *full* dictatorship and stop putting up airs of playing nice, then it becomes the same situation as Iran, in which case they're also not ever getting the bomb.

It's pretty simple.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I'm not "scared" of a nuclear Iran or Turkey. Because Iran & Turkey are never getting nuclear bombs. The former because Israel will kill anyone and everyone they have to in order to prevent it, and Turkey because Turkey plays nice with international norms and NATO. If they go *full* dictatorship and stop putting up airs of playing nice, then it becomes the same situation as Iran, in which case they're also not ever getting the bomb.

It's pretty simple.

You don't even know what you gonna eat 3 days later. Don't talk about "never" if Türkiye will build nukes or not, ain't your business.

 

[Relic]

It'll be interesting to see if Israel takes the strategic step to go after Iran's O&G production in any meaningful way. They could, objectively, deeply hurt the Iranian economy through the mass targeting of highly vulnerable oil production and storage sites, as well as processing and upgrading facilities. Even land based pipelines could make for juicy targets. Iran produces 3-4 million barrels per day, 1/3 to 1/2 of which is exported. If half of that is taken offline by long range Israeli strikes isn't would be awful for their economy and their people. Between 45-55% of all Iranian exports fall under the O&G sector.

It's not unreasonable to suggest that in less than 1 week, Israel could 25-30% of Iran's entire economy offline. Normally, they'd go to a country like Russia for help, but the Russians are knee deep in their own war and can't afford to bolster Iran should their economy end up ravaged. Only the Chinese would have the economic power to step in and help them out, but it's hard to say if they'd be interested at all.

 

[satria]

Israeli forces again attack UNIFIL headquarters in southern Lebanon, Sri Lankan peacekeepers injured​

Israeli artillery fired a shell that struck the main entrance of the UNIFIL command center in Naqoura, according to Lebanon’s official news agency​

Israeli forces again attack UNIFIL headquarters in southern Lebanon, Sri Lankan peacekeepers injured

Israeli artillery fired a shell that struck the main entrance of the UNIFIL command center in Naqoura, according to Lebanon’s official news agency - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

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[SilverMachine]

You don't even know what you gonna eat 3 days later. Don't talk about "never" if Türkiye will build nukes or not, ain't your business.

It's quite literally everybody's business, by definition. Turkey's in NATO, Turkey's not flaunting the whole non-proliferation norm, it's just not going to happen, short of someone even more dictatorial than Erdogan getting into power and cutting off relations with the west. And that'd be dealt with swiftly too.

 

[satria]

Israel Soldier Killed In Gaza | Hamas’ Issue New Attack Videos | IDF Trooper Hit By Hamas Sniper​

 

[contricusc]

Nowadays Erdogan government allows anybody to settle in to Turkish cyprus many people are buying houses. Unfortunately its going to ruin the place in the long term. I understand Turkish cypriots are fustrated as the Turkish government constantly intervenes in their affairs the more hostile they will become.

Erdogan is known to be a control freak because he has to control everything. At the same time his also increasing Turkish military presence in Turkish Cyprus because the Greeks one day could pull some shady shit.

These are the types of actions that I was referring to when I pointed out that Turkey is not trying to find a solution for Cyprus in good faith. Erdogan is not interested in the prosperity of Cyprus, and he doesn’t care about the well being of Turkish Cypriots.

If not even Turkish Cypriots like his policies, how could one expect Greek Cypriots to agree?

I think that both Turkish and Greek Cypriots would prefer to settle their differences in a peaceful manner and live in a united country, but Erdogan is meddling into their internal issues in order to make sure this doesn’t happen under his watch.

 

[satria]

Hezbollah Kills 12th Soldier After Firing 350 Rockets At Israel; IDF Admits Casualties In Lebanon​

 

[contricusc]

I am not a religious person and I cannot stand the Iranian theocracy. But the question "Which Muslim country will be next?" is quite appropriate.

You speak as if there is a Western conspiracy against Muslim nations, but there are clear examples of Muslim countries that are getting developed and are receiving a lot of foreign investment, and they are in good relations with the West. The UAE is the best example, but even a large country like Saudi Arabia is going into the right direction.

The secret is to not antagonize the West and threaten them, like Saddam, Gaddafi and the Iranian Ayatollahs did.

As long as a country is seen as untrustworthy or is already an enemy, or a potential one in the future, the US is clearly not going to allow it to become too powerful.

If we look deeper, the US will not allow even its closest Western allies to become too powerful, as they want to make sure there is nobody strong enough to challenge their hegemony. They actively supported the loss of British and French colonial empires in the aftermath of WW2, as they wanted to see France and the UK becoming small irrelevant players at a global level.

The US even supported Egypt against Britain and France in the Suez war, and sanctioned their “closest ally” in order to make sure it loses a strategic asset and gets even weaker.

And they also pressured Italy to give up on its nuclear ambitions, so this has really nothing to do with being Muslim, but it is the de facto policy of the US to keep countries at a limited level of power, so they cannot exert too much influence.

My point is, there is a limit on how much power the US will allow its “allies” to have, and for their perceived rivals or enemies that threshold is much lower and the limits can be enforced through war if sanctions don’t work. As an ally, at least you are not at risk of war.

 

[satria]

Southern Israel Under Attack, Four IDF Commanders Killed | Hamas Strikes Again | Gaza Fighting​

Israeli military said a projectile that crossed from the northern Gaza Strip into Israeli territory was successfully intercepted by the Air Force while another Israeli commander lost his life in the fighting with Hamas in the besieged enclave, taking the death toll in fighting in 24 hours to 4 commanders. Watch.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

It's quite literally everybody's business, by definition. Turkey's in NATO, Turkey's not flaunting the whole non-proliferation norm, it's just not going to happen, short of someone even more dictatorial than Erdogan getting into power and cutting off relations with the west. And that'd be dealt with swiftly too.

You think the world will stay the way it is. Spoiler alert, it will not. Türkiye will get those weapons one way or another. If there is a single Country on earth that possesses this weapon, then it is reason enough for my Country to have it as well. It's a matter of time, not if.

It's easy to talk living on an Island who's biggest danger are probably some animals.

 

[Corvus]

I'm not "scared" of a nuclear Iran or Turkey. Because Iran & Turkey are never getting nuclear bombs. The former because Israel will kill anyone and everyone they have to in order to prevent it, and Turkey because Turkey plays nice with international norms and NATO. If they go *full* dictatorship and stop putting up airs of playing nice, then it becomes the same situation as Iran, in which case they're also not ever getting the bomb.

It's pretty simple.

Israel is not capable of stopping Türkiye or Iran by force and USA will not be here forever.

 

[Ryder]

These are the types of actions that I was referring to when I pointed out that Turkey is not trying to find a solution for Cyprus in good faith. Erdogan is not interested in the prosperity of Cyprus, and he doesn’t care about the well being of Turkish Cypriots.

If not even Turkish Cypriots like his policies, how could one expect Greek Cypriots to agree?

I think that both Turkish and Greek Cypriots would prefer to settle their differences in a peaceful manner and live in a united country, but Erdogan is meddling into their internal issues in order to make sure this doesn’t happen under his watch.

Erdogan only has to defend Turkish Cypriots not meddle in their internal affairs.

Turkish cypriots will never unite with Greek cypriots because the TCs knows they will be treated as second class citizens by their GC neighbours.

Why Palestine/Israel and the Two state solution has failed. Palestinians why should they accept a country that will treat them like shit?

Even the Israeli Arabs are treated like shit.

 

[Scott Summers]

All those guys cheering here during the pager attacks, weapondepot bombings and command-chain killing by Israel, are they still laughing?

Hezbollah is firing the same amount of rockets every day at the same time on the same cities and the Iron Dome cant stop them.

And they didnt even fired their strongest rockets. Meanwhile this leaderless organisation is pownding the zionist gangs at the border.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844746602407182567

 

[Barry]

Man thinks we ever want to be in the same state as the Greek Cypriots after ethnic cleansing and the theft of the Republic by Greece and Greek Cypriots. Bruv worry about the European's wallet memes because your understanding about anything Cyprus is literally Tiktok level of IQ.

 

[Relic]

All those guys cheering here during the pager attacks, weapondepit bombings and command-chain killing by Israel, are they still laughing?

Hezbollah is firing the same amount of rockets every day at the same time on the same cities and the Iron Dome cant stop them.

And they didnt even fired their strongest rockets. Meanwhile this leaderless organisation is pownding the zionist gangs at the border.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844746602407182567

Objectively, the demage Hezbollah is doing to Israel is extremely minor in the grand scheme of things. You're talking about the damage / destruction of individual dwellings and the deaths of civilians on a single / low double digit scale. If you look at conflict from a historical perspective, that's a negligible amount damage and death to an enemy.

When it comes to Israel's invasion of southern Lebanon , we 100% voiced our concerns about that being a head scratching political move by the Israeli Government, that was sure to cause high levels of casualties among IDF soldiers and high levels of destruction among Israeli military hardware. I've always been of the opinion that they could have inflicted much more damage from the air, where they have complete supremacy. Trying to attack Hezbollah on their own prepared turf was and is never going to be easy.

All of that said, Israel is also doing substantial damage in Lebanon and has inflicted serious damage to Hezbollah (whether you'll admit it, or not). We've also yet to see how they'll retaliate against Iran . They may be measured in their response, or they might inflict a serious blow to the Iranian economy.

I think it's way too early for any significant analysis of this evolving "hot war". It's still the very early stages.

Meanwhile, on Thursday, USA sent more F-15s into the region and reinforced squadrons at an undisclosed base. This, after doing the same with F-16 and F-22 squadrons in the region in recent weeks. At the same time, Britain has advance deployed Eurofighters in Cyprus to be able to respond if required.

On the naval front, USS Abraham Lincoln and her carrier taskforce remain in the region, loaded with F-18 Superhornets and F-35s. Her Arleigh Burke escorts also pack a serious punch, as do the multiple submarines lurking off the coast in the Mediterranean.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Army and Marine Corps are bolstering personnel in region in case of a hot war. Some 43,000 combat troops and supporters are now in the region (or on route) should Israel need reinforcements on the ground.

It sure looks to be escalating into a pretty serious conflict in the Middle East... And really only one thing is certain. A lot of civilians, on both sides of the conflict, are going to die unnecessarily.

 

[contricusc]

Turkish cypriots will never unite with Greek cypriots because the TCs knows they will be treated as second class citizens by their GC neighbours.

It’s sad if they think this way, because it means there is no way the Cyprus issue will be resolved anytime soon if this is the case. I was hoping that after 50 years since the conflict, people from the younger generations will have less fear and hatred of the “others”.

In Europe there are now good relations between countries that have a terrible history of wars and killings in the past, but the younger generations don’t harbor any hate and the problems of the past have been forgotten. It would be good if the same would happen in Cyprus, but maybe it is too early for that and they need another half century to completely forget the problems from the past.

 

[SilverMachine]

AngryTurk, your screenname's sure honest, heh. And yeah, good luck with that. The Mighty Unstoppable Ottoman Empire of...2024. 'Kay.




And Hezbollah's not doing shit of conequence, Scott. They're going to continue to fire whatever rockets they have left in the now-mostly-neutered stockpile: they're not going to do much, pick off a civilian here or there, damage a road, mess up a building facade. Nothing that'll move the needle or change the walls closing in for them. Even the non-fighter Hezbollah aligned guys in Lebanon are amongst themselves admitting they're fucked and way underperforming from their own expectations, as I sourced earlier.

Relic gets it.

Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable laughing about the pager attack and everything that's gone down since. It's probably the most inspired & swift & soon-to-be thorough military takedown of a terrorist organization in modern history, credit where credit's due to Bibi's guys here, they had an ace up their sleeve and played it effectively.

 

[Scott Summers]

@Relic @SilverMachine

Hezbollah is exhausting Iron Dome supplies in northern occupied Palestine. The Colony will have to choose which is more important, the north or the center. Hezbollah is not going to surrender to a regime change ploy that the Colony is pushing its luck with.

Hezbollah is firing 200-300 rockets and missiles a day now.

Pretty soon Iron Dome is going to be out of interceptors and so Hezbollah will be raining much more death and destruction on the settlers as barely any of the rockets/missiles get intercepted anymore.

Hezbollah is in better shape, militarily, than we had thought. And is directing coordinated strikes with a well thought out strategy that will manifest in phases.

Meanwhile, the Colony is losing soldiers, civillians, money, investments, tourists, faith, ammo, funds and reputation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844764081443455368

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844763643591659692

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844763282865061952

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844822284160147631

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844827228540137593

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

AngryTurk, your screenname's sure honest, heh. And yeah, good luck with that. The Mighty Unstoppable Ottoman Empire of...2024. 'Kay.

Looks like there isn't much luck needed when I look which Countries today possess the weapon. You can cope as much as you want, times changing. The world order will not stay the way it is, no matter how much you cry about it.