Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

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Who are these people, they give me 5th column vibes.

Iran is no friend of Turks. Its not a friend of Muslims either. It milked the Palestine issue for maximum personal benefit and in the process ran her off the cliff edge and opened up the entire region to being destroyed by America/Isreal. Iran is currently in the process of being destroyed, no "ceasefire" will hold for any extended period, its now going to be phases of bombardments until that nation reduced to nothing.

But if we were smart we wouldn't be where we are and if the americans were dumb they wouldn't be the global super power. Most nations are exactly where they belong on the global stage. Most civilisations are exactly where they belong and they belong their by their own hands.
 

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All of your points are true. Problem is, do you really think that Trump does not know these, and beyond? Trump has a narcisstic personality, at least he shows a lot evidence about that. Such people easily bend the truths, so it doesnt matter what the reality is.

They never admit themselves as failed, always but always blame others for the undesirable outcomes. Noone can criticise them, especially in front of public. They don't defend, always on the attack, some says they need enemy to survive.

Besides, in all fairness, in second term Trump blamed all the world one way or another but has not criticise us even 1 time, although all of the Christian Zionists ready to eat us alive

So Omer Bolat made a mistake, imo. @Saithan was right. He should have deflected the questions about Nato. Diplomacy is not an art of "saying the truths". We cannot afford to criticise Trump publicly, not now at least. We should not mess with this "crazy of village".

Let him attack whoever he wants...
I guess that it is Cuba next. Having clearly failed to defeat Iran and possibly being incapable of coming to some agreement with Iran where Iran chooses to allow free passage through the Gulf, I suspect that Trump will move on to attacking a country that is easier to defeat. Then he can stop thinking about punishing Iran for not surrendering to him and crow about defeating Cuba.

As you put it in other words, Trump is the 'village idiot'. Unfortunately he is an extremely powerful, reckless and destructive village idiot as we now see to the cost of everyone worldwide.
 

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Iran held the upper hand during the war. So much so it had a ten point demand be way to peace. Those ten points were total Iranian victory.

trump agreed to it because Iran had the US in defeat and trump is violating many of the 10 point plan cease fire because trump only wanted a cease fire to declare victory while getting oil and gas out of the Gulf. trump never intended to abide by the 10 point plan, trump wanted to turn events to "Iran started the war", after the cease fire that trump is not abiding to.

It is to attempt to change the narrative. Iran has to be aware it is being fooled and played. My previous idea of breaking the cease fire closes the straits for three months is a path to punish Trump and defeat the mission to lower oil prices.
 

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Iran is totally getting played in the talks, Iran said for the negotiations to happen, Iran demands frozen assets before talks. Instead of getting frozen assets before the talks, Iran is in worse conditions, the US merely agrees to releasing the assets, as it agreed to the 10 points of Iranian demands. US is now trying to tie releasing the frozen assets with Iran not able to close the straits, the only path to Iranian victory.
 

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The US goal is to get Iran tied to agreements "Iran violated", ignoring the US in total violation of the cease fire, so that when hostilities restart, Iran is labeled the aggressor. US is in total defeat and Iran believes the lie that only Israel is behind this and trump is the victim of Israel, and for that believes trump in deal making.

Macron is conning Iran to defeat. Macron is on team trump. Though is playing the role of against the war to lure Iran to make bad decisions. Iran is conned to believe Macron is their defender. The no security council vote was because Europe is very antiwar, and Macron is outflanked by Le Pen, another trumper, though against the war or she has no chances to win. Macron mission is to be the handler to fool Iran to believe France is against its destruction. And to get the fence sitters to join a coalition against Iran to open the straits if Iran makes mistakes. Iran has not made mistakes until these negotiations.

Iran actually believes the US did not want the war. PressTV and Iran are shouting America First and Israel last. It fell for the psyop. America First is behind the war. This is similar to Jews leaving concentration camps shouting "seig heil. The Italians got the Germans to be Nazis, blame the Italians."

You can fix stupid.
 
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Why would Pakistan need American backing to take such an action?
The situation actually is not simple to explain.

There is greater push in American Establishment to focus on China & US wants India also to focus on China, instead India keeps fighting Pakistan
US is trying to pick up Pakistan from South Asia and engage it in ME so that India can focus on China. What if India still keeps fighting Pakistan?
What if Pakistan picks up fight with someone in middle east? Then it will get ugly, very ugly for Pakistan.
And Pakistani leadership track record is bad enough to worry.
 

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Iran is totally getting played in the talks, Iran said for the negotiations to happen, Iran demands frozen assets before talks. Instead of getting frozen assets before the talks, Iran is in worse conditions, the US merely agrees to releasing the assets, as it agreed to the 10 points of Iranian demands. US is now trying to tie releasing the frozen assets with Iran not able to close the straits, the only path to Iranian victory.

The Iranians are actually demanding full control of Strait of Hormuz. It is one of their conditions. It is also a point of contention between the US and Iran.

The Iranians want to obviously control the strait, but they also want to earn through toll money and use that to rebuild destroyed infrastructure.
 

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Iran is totally getting played in the talks, Iran said for the negotiations to happen, Iran demands frozen assets before talks. Instead of getting frozen assets before the talks, Iran is in worse conditions, the US merely agrees to releasing the assets, as it agreed to the 10 points of Iranian demands. US is now trying to tie releasing the frozen assets with Iran not able to close the straits, the only path to Iranian victory.
It is not possible to stop a country with a coastline with the strait from menacing ships using the strait if it has suitable weapons. The US cannot destroy all Iran's drones. Iran needs to choose not to menace the strait.

Before Israel and the US attacked Iran there was no problem. Now the problem has arisen because of the aggression, the US needs to think very hard how to fix the problem. I hope it can think of a fix.
 
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Iran held the upper hand during the war. So much so it had a ten point demand be way to peace. Those ten points were total Iranian victory.

trump agreed to it because Iran had the US in defeat and trump is violating many of the 10 point plan cease fire because trump only wanted a cease fire to declare victory while getting oil and gas out of the Gulf. trump never intended to abide by the 10 point plan, trump wanted to turn events to "Iran started the war", after the cease fire that trump is not abiding to.

It is to attempt to change the narrative. Iran has to be aware it is being fooled and played. My previous idea of breaking the cease fire closes the straits for three months is a path to punish Trump and defeat the mission to lower oil prices.

they got bombed for 6 weeks. Their weaker today then they were before day 1 of bombing.

Iran is trapped, they need the peace talks but also know the peace talks won't achieve anything but buy time for their enemies to redeploy their assets.

Only way out of this for iran is to find a way to bring regional nations like Turkiye, Pakistan into the fold. But that won't be easy because iranian dealings have always been two faced and dodgy. Only yesterday shia death squads were slaughtering muslims in iraq and syria while arming the pkk kurds against Turkiye. Not to mention siding with armenia against Muslim Turks.

Personally i think iran is done, their basically going to incrementally keep getting smashed. they got 12 days not long ago, now they got 6 weeks. Next time it might be 6 months. With each bombardment Iran further gets diminished.
 

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