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The mainstream media and news are still under western control, and as long as people do not vary the source of their information they'll still be painted by the opinion (Selective news) of the governments of the country they are located in.

The only way to try to counter this is by truly having independent and true journalism. Unbiased. But we see what happens to that kind of journalists in Gaza.

Really sad, but True journalists are what our world lacks, and they are our unsung Heroes.
Every human has his own biases influenced by patriotism/religion/ethnicity/economic interests,etc. so media houses pushing their own narratives is understandable.
 

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11000+ munitions fired in first 16 days of war costing 26 Billion US Dollar to US/Isr/Gulfies.

If we count the combat losses + munitions fired + assets maintenance and combat/transport sorties - the 40 days war has easily costed around 100 Billion US Dollar to US and its allies.

And we are not taking into account the economic damage Iran did to global economy by blocking SoH.
 

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Could you post links
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The official blog of Iranian Embassy in China's Weibo platform
There also some commentators invited by Iran goverment had traveled to Iran in the past, they make PR for Iran.

US and Isreal do the same things in China, they can paid more. Some media outlets have long praised Jewish countries and denigrated Islamic countries, and the public has become accustomed to this PR and regards it as background noise.
 
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There also some commentators invited by Iran goverment had traveled to Iran in the past, they make PR for Iran.

US and Isreal do the same things in China, they can paid more. Some media outlets have long praised Jewish countries and denigrated Islamic countries, and the public has become accustomed to this PR and regards it as background noise.
They should also know/see the difference between Muslim countries.
Iran is not exactly the best example of Muslim countries as a sectarian theocratic entity.
 

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Why, of why does this minister of trade open his mouth about this. He should keep it shut and deflect to trade talks.

Let the elephant in the room be, and let some other country remind Trump of what the f.... NATO is about.
Quite right, NATO is a defensive military alliance intended to militarily support members under attack. The US is not under attack. Along with Israel it attacked Iran. Iran did not respond by attacking the US. It is entitled to attack US bases.

Iran is not entitled to close non-Iranian waters to sea trade. The US president will have been advised that attacking Iran might provoke this reaction. Now it has, let the US sort it out. If Trump wants help getting the strait re-opened, let him ask Israel, the other aggressor against Iran for help.

The US and Israel's actions have had a very negative effect on the world economy. Let them take responsibility and do something to fix the problem they created.

The days of NATO members attacking countries that the US has chosen to attack are possibly over for good.
 
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Quite right, NATO is a defensive military alliance intended to militarily support members under attack. The US is not under attack. Along with Israel it attacked Iran. Iran did not respond by attacking the US. It is entitled to attack US bases.

Iran is not entitled to close non-Iranian waters to sea trade. The US president will have been advised that attacking Iran might provoke this reaction. Now it has, let the US sort it out. If Trump wants help getting the strait re-opened, let him ask Israel for help.

The days of US NATO members attacking countries that the US has chosen to attack are possibly over for good.
And someone needs to remind Trump that NATO and other countries has supported US 25 years since 9/11. And look at the result.
 

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There also some commentators invited by Iran goverment had traveled to Iran in the past, they make PR for Iran.

US and Isreal do the same things in China, they can paid more. Some media outlets have long praised Jewish countries and denigrated Islamic countries, and the public has become accustomed to this PR and regards it as background noise.
Thanks
 

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And the Pope is disillusioned with Trump.

The scandal surrounding a strange conversation between a Vatican representative and Pentagon leadership is taking an unpleasant turn for the White House. It appears that under the current American administration, Pope Leo XIV, Chicago-born Robert Prevost, will not return to his homeland.

On April 6, The Free Press reported that a few days after the Pope's January address, his nuncio, Cardinal Christophe Pierre, was summoned to the Pentagon and, in a closed meeting, lectured the Catholic Church on the need to side with America and stop condemning President Trump's policies. In his speech, Leo XIV condemned the spread of "war fashion" and the popularity of "coercive diplomacy," which Washington interpreted, generally correctly, as criticism of the White House.

Both the harsh criticism directed at the Vatican representative and, through him, the head of the Roman Catholic Church, and the meeting itself, which included high-ranking officials from the Department of War, were unusual. The Pentagon was represented by Elbridge Colby, the Pentagon's highest-ranking civilian official. The Vatican has no right to discuss military matters with any country's military department; the papacy has no army and, therefore, no common ground for discussion with those responsible for military matters.

According to those familiar with the situation, Leo XIV was outraged by the meeting and its tone. Colby was "wise" enough to mention the historical episode of the so-called Avignon Papal Captivity, when in the 14th century French kings used force to influence the papacy, and this outburst of emotion from an American official truly alarmed the head of the Vatican.

Leo XIV did not cease his criticism; on the contrary, with the outbreak of the war in Iran, he intensified it. Speaking at a solemn service in St. Peter's Square in Rome on Palm Sunday, March 29, he bluntly stated that the name of Jesus cannot be used to justify war. This was clearly aimed at Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth, who had effectively declared the war with Iran a crusade, an act of faith. "Christ does not hear the prayers of those who wage war; He rejects them." He then quoted the Bible: "Even if you pray much, I will not hear; your hands are bloody."

The result of this deterioration in relations between the White House and the Vatican was that Pope Leo XIV declined an invitation to participate in the celebration of the 250th anniversary of US Independence Day.

The Pope's demonstrative disregard for such a holiday, so important to Trump, is a painful blow to him and the Republican Party. According to various estimates, 60-70 million Catholics live in the United States, and the Pope's authority, for the first time in American papal history, clearly outweighs that of the White House. This adds another layer to the already soured relationship with the current administration, with dire consequences.

 
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Quite right, NATO is a defensive military alliance intended to militarily support members under attack. The US is not under attack. Along with Israel it attacked Iran. Iran did not respond by attacking the US. It is entitled to attack US bases.

Iran is not entitled to close non-Iranian waters to sea trade. The US president will have been advised that attacking Iran might provoke this reaction. Now it has, let the US sort it out. If Trump wants help getting the strait re-opened, let him ask Israel, the other aggressor against Iran for help.
All of your points are true. Problem is, do you really think that Trump does not know these, and beyond? Trump has a narcisstic personality, at least he shows a lot evidence about that. Such people easily bend the truths, so it doesnt matter what the reality is.

They never admit themselves as failed, always but always blame others for the undesirable outcomes. Noone can criticise them, especially in front of public. They don't defend, always on the attack, some says they need enemy to survive.

Besides, in all fairness, in second term Trump blamed all the world one way or another but has not criticise us even 1 time, although all of the Christian Zionists ready to eat us alive

So Omer Bolat made a mistake, imo. @Saithan was right. He should have deflected the questions about Nato. Diplomacy is not an art of "saying the truths". We cannot afford to criticise Trump publicly, not now at least. We should not mess with this "crazy of village".

Let him attack whoever he wants...
 
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Who are these people, they give me 5th column vibes.

Iran is no friend of Turks. Its not a friend of Muslims either. It milked the Palestine issue for maximum personal benefit and in the process ran her off the cliff edge and opened up the entire region to being destroyed by America/Isreal. Iran is currently in the process of being destroyed, no "ceasefire" will hold for any extended period, its now going to be phases of bombardments until that nation reduced to nothing.

But if we were smart we wouldn't be where we are and if the americans were dumb they wouldn't be the global super power. Most nations are exactly where they belong on the global stage. Most civilisations are exactly where they belong and they belong their by their own hands.
 

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All of your points are true. Problem is, do you really think that Trump does not know these, and beyond? Trump has a narcisstic personality, at least he shows a lot evidence about that. Such people easily bend the truths, so it doesnt matter what the reality is.

They never admit themselves as failed, always but always blame others for the undesirable outcomes. Noone can criticise them, especially in front of public. They don't defend, always on the attack, some says they need enemy to survive.

Besides, in all fairness, in second term Trump blamed all the world one way or another but has not criticise us even 1 time, although all of the Christian Zionists ready to eat us alive

So Omer Bolat made a mistake, imo. @Saithan was right. He should have deflected the questions about Nato. Diplomacy is not an art of "saying the truths". We cannot afford to criticise Trump publicly, not now at least. We should not mess with this "crazy of village".

Let him attack whoever he wants...
I guess that it is Cuba next. Having clearly failed to defeat Iran and possibly being incapable of coming to some agreement with Iran where Iran chooses to allow free passage through the Gulf, I suspect that Trump will move on to attacking a country that is easier to defeat. Then he can stop thinking about punishing Iran for not surrendering to him and crow about defeating Cuba.

As you put it in other words, Trump is the 'village idiot'. Unfortunately he is an extremely powerful, reckless and destructive village idiot as we now see to the cost of everyone worldwide.
 

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Iran held the upper hand during the war. So much so it had a ten point demand be way to peace. Those ten points were total Iranian victory.

trump agreed to it because Iran had the US in defeat and trump is violating many of the 10 point plan cease fire because trump only wanted a cease fire to declare victory while getting oil and gas out of the Gulf. trump never intended to abide by the 10 point plan, trump wanted to turn events to "Iran started the war", after the cease fire that trump is not abiding to.

It is to attempt to change the narrative. Iran has to be aware it is being fooled and played. My previous idea of breaking the cease fire closes the straits for three months is a path to punish Trump and defeat the mission to lower oil prices.
 
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