TR Land Vehicle Programs

[boredaf]

To clarify, as far as I'm aware, ACV-30 was based on the ACV-19[Akıncı, originally ACV-S(tretched)] but enlarged to 18 tons.

ACV-19 itself is 18 tons mate.

https://fnss.com.tr/uploads/docs/IDEF%2023%20KATALOGLAR%20ENG/1688545919_acv-19-eng-2023.pdf?1688545970

And this is ACV-AD

https://www.fnss.com.tr/uploads/docs/IDEF%2023%20KATALOGLAR%20ENG/1688546072_acv-ad-eng-2023.pdf?1688546081

 

[Sanchez]

ACV-19 itself is 18 tons mate.

https://fnss.com.tr/uploads/docs/IDEF%2023%20KATALOGLAR%20ENG/1688545919_acv-19-eng-2023.pdf?1688545970

And this is ACV-AD

https://www.fnss.com.tr/uploads/docs/IDEF%2023%20KATALOGLAR%20ENG/1688546072_acv-ad-eng-2023.pdf?1688546081

Grammar error, I meant ACV-30 is based on the 18 ton ACV-19. We don't have the official weight of ACV-AD but it should be at least 27-28 tons, based on FNSS' naming scheme. Edited to clarify.

 

[boredaf]

Grammar error, I meant ACV-30 is based on the 18 ton ACV-19. We don't have the official weight of ACV-AD but it should be at least 27-28 tons, based on FNSS' naming scheme. Edited to clarify.

It is a meter wider and a meter longer, according to brochures, if it is really that heavy that has to include Korkut's turret and Hisar canister etc on top of whatever armour they may have added.

 

[boredaf]

ZMA-X Unmanned and Autonomous Combat Vehicle + SARP 100/25 Weapon System.
Obstacle avoidance on route,
Road recognition,
Human and vehicle detection,
Going to target, returning to home

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841829274342600810

We're on the right track with this, minimise the need for direct control and get humans to become "commanders" instead of controllers. Sarp already has auto target tracking (and other Aselsan turrets), iirc, we just need the auto-engagement system from Gökdeniz to be improved/adapted for use with UGVs and other systems.

 

[Sanchez]

New tactical truck, Kısrak from Koluman. Looks to be based on Unimog. BMC Efe production was ended few years ago. Although no deal was announced, we can expect Kısrak to enter service in the near future as some early model Unimogs were retired beginning from 2022.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841865881841778861

 

[Saithan]

New tactical truck, Kısrak from Koluman. Looks to be based on Unimog. BMC Efe production was ended few years ago. Although no deal was announced, we can expect Kısrak to enter service in the near future as some early model Unimogs were retired beginning from 2022.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841865881841778861

So is this something like a new favorite has been picked over BMC or what ?

I mean I can't enter their website to see wtf kinda company it is.

Koluman

kolumanotomotiv.com

Really makes you wonder if anyone in Türkiye ever is going to improve on their PR capabilities....

 

[Tornadoss]

Grammar error, I meant ACV-30 is based on the 18 ton ACV-19. We don't have the official weight of ACV-AD but it should be at least 27-28 tons, based on FNSS' naming scheme. Edited to clarify.

I assume the hull is steel instead of aluminum unlike ACV-15.

 

[Anmdt]

So is this something like a new favorite has been picked over BMC or what ?

I mean I can't enter their website to see wtf kinda company it is.

Koluman

kolumanotomotiv.com

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Really makes you wonder if anyone in Türkiye ever is going to improve on their PR capabilities....

Koluman has a good history in commercial vehicles and production quality, nonetheless, and website works fine for me. Not sure who owns the Koluman now, but it seems that they won't end up like BMC (Hopefully).

 

[Sanchez]

So is this something like a new favorite has been picked over BMC or what ?

I mean I can't enter their website to see wtf kinda company it is.

Koluman

kolumanotomotiv.com

View attachment 70990

Really makes you wonder if anyone in Türkiye ever is going to improve on their PR capabilities....

Koluman is a Mercedes distributor. They were part of most Mercedes vehicle acquisitions in the past, old trucks, thousands of Unimogs etc. In the commercial vehicle sector they mostly specialize variant creation like tankers, dump trucks. They however also build trucks in house as well as far as i know. Arocs based Derman is built by them, of course with foreign powerpacks. They have a good history with working with the army for the last 2-3 decades. They also signed for armored fuel tankers for the army last year, and we should see deliveries soon. Looks like they will offer a locally made Unimog replacement now, in the form of a different looking Unimog.

They are but one supplier, trying to gain market share. Their website opens well for me, but the defence section is unreachable, they're probably doing a makeover.

https://savunma.koluman-otomotiv.com.tr/hakkimizda

I assume the hull is steel instead of aluminum unlike ACV-15.

Not impossible but doubt it, ACV-AD is amphibious in Korkut variant.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Since ZMA-X is experimental, I'm more than sure they will give a try for hybrid drive. We already know that ASELSAN and BASE are cooperating on a hybrid drive like FNSS and MKE.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Current configurations of ALKA are either fixed or palletized, so why not a mobile platform for a fully mobile protection?

Edit: The Time is Now

 

[Kartal1]

Revolution on the battlefield!

Developed with domestic and national resources, the 120mm tank mortar weapon system, which can fire both sight and blind, is the first and only in the world with its ability to fire MOD 300 tank destroyer and MOD 308 mortar ammunition!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848409721520226396

@UkroTurk Abi!

 

[boredaf]

Revolution on the battlefield!

Developed with domestic and national resources, the 120mm tank mortar weapon system, which can fire both sight and blind, is the first and only in the world with its ability to fire MOD 300 tank destroyer and MOD 308 mortar ammunition!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848409721520226396

I wonder if this can fire Tanok? (If we ever see it again of course) Because if it can, theoretically, our tanks can stay 5 or 6 km away from an enemy and provide both indirect fire support (although thanks to correction help from small quad drones these days indirect fire support has become quite direct) and anti armour capability while reducing the risk to themselves.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Revolution on the battlefield!

Developed with domestic and national resources, the 120mm tank mortar weapon system, which can fire both sight and blind, is the first and only in the world with its ability to fire MOD 300 tank destroyer and MOD 308 mortar ammunition!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848409721520226396

First and only in the world !
Merkava tank aslo has 60mm mortar inside but what i understand is that this Turk mortar 120mm can fire from main gun and not separate ? right ?

 

[Sanchez]

First and only in the world !
Merkava tank aslo has 60mm mortar inside but what i understand is that this Turk mortar 120mm can fire from main gun and not separate ? right ?

Think like this.

 

[UkroTurk]

@UkroTurk Abi!

I am going to attend SAHA % 100!

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Think like this.

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so our tank is aslo advanced artillary ?

 

[boredaf]

@Kartal1 this is the type of vehicle you were talking about as a patrol vehicle some time ago, right?

OTOKAR 5 yenilikçi aracıyla SAHA EXPO'da

SAHA EXPO Uluslararası Savunma, Havacılık ve Uzay Sanayi Fuarı'nda OTOKAR; COBRA II, URAL, ARMA 8x8, ARMA 6x6 ve AKREP II araçlarını sergileyecek.

www.defenceturk.net

 

[Kartal1]

@Kartal1 this is the type of vehicle you were talking about as a patrol vehicle some time ago, right?

OTOKAR 5 yenilikçi aracıyla SAHA EXPO'da

SAHA EXPO Uluslararası Savunma, Havacılık ve Uzay Sanayi Fuarı'nda OTOKAR; COBRA II, URAL, ARMA 8x8, ARMA 6x6 ve AKREP II araçlarını sergileyecek.

www.defenceturk.net

Yep! I remember talking about it in a long range patrol configuration for SOF and light armoured vehicle configuration for airborne troops.

By the way, I saw a vehicle with similar concept that is developed "according to the requirements of TSK". It wouldn't be ideal for long range patrol, but will be something light and agile like the Polaris. Honestly I find it extremely ugly, reminding me of a golf cart and it gives me the vibes of a scam

It is electric, planned to work in a concept where it works with drones.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847963645743083677

 

[boredaf]

Yep! I remember talking about it in a long range patrol configuration for SOF and light armoured vehicle configuration for airborne troops.

By the way, I saw a vehicle with similar concept that is developed "according to the requirementsof TSK". It wouldn't be ideal for long range patrol, but will be something light and agile like the Polaris. Honestly I find it extremely ugly, reminding me of a golf cart and it gives me the vibes of a scam

It is electric, planned to work in a concept where it works with drones.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847963645743083677

Fucking hell that is ugly I've seen a lot of Russian soldiers get killed by fpv drones while riding similar looking Chinese made vehicles in Ukraine. I hope they'll pick something better.