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US Libya Ambassador has clearly declared that they want to remove Turkey from Libya.
"US Libya Ambassador has clearly declared that they want to remove Turkey from Libya." The US is serving KSA, UAE and Israel's interests. We in Algeria we don't want GCC trouble makers creating chaos in North Africa. Include Egypt and Jordan to that bunch. I hope Algeria unites with Turkey further on this matter. Algeria, Tunisia and Libya are natural allies for Turkey (notice the similarity of the flags) through history during the Hayreddin Barbarossa period. After WW2, the Arab Mideast had declared North Africa Arab for expansionist reasons, yet North Africans are ethnically Berbers even though they acquired the Arabic language.
 
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Russians or Turks wont leave, why would they?

Russians have much more than Turkey in Libya.

They have the well needed bases in NA that they wanted.
 

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This is the inevitable dash of reliable big ally b..h of West. But, if we deserve to be a regional power must facedown this Challenge.
 

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US Libya Ambassador has clearly declared that they want to remove Turkey from Libya.
Again, why are people surprised?
Do you seriously believe that the US didnt know that Haftar was being supported by Russia way before Turkish intervention? They absolutely did know! Yet they didnt intervene, because Russia is doing what the US wants!

Europe and USA stance on Africa and the middle east is quite clear..... and it is that democracy is prohibited in such areas! From Morocco to Egypt and from Turkey to all the Gulf nations! With Haftar, even if he is influenced by Russia, USA will still have leverage as they still control the Global Economy!

The only democracies in the middle east that are left are Algeria and Turkey. Why do you guys think that Turkey is the prime enemy of the US in the middle east? Do you believe that the US didnt have a hand in the 2016 Coup in Turkey? Soon both of turkey and algeria will fall and I assure you that democracy will never rise again in the middle east until at least 20 more years into the future!
 

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Again, why are people surprised?
Do you seriously believe that the US didnt know that Haftar was being supported by Russia way before Turkish intervention? They absolutely did know! Yet they didnt intervene, because Russia is doing what the US wants!

Europe and USA stance on Africa and the middle east is quite clear..... and it is that democracy is prohibited in such areas! From Morocco to Egypt and from Turkey to all the Gulf nations! With Haftar, even if he is influenced by Russia, USA will still have leverage as they still control the Global Economy!

The only democracies in the middle east that are left are Algeria and Turkey. Why do you guys think that Turkey is the prime enemy of the US in the middle east? Do you believe that the US didnt have a hand in the 2016 Coup in Turkey? Soon both of turkey and algeria will fall and I assure you that democracy will never rise again in the middle east until at least 20 more years into the future!
Turkey will fall?
Not as long as I live.
 

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Good luck removing Russians from Libya. The latest reports suggest that Russian regular forces are stationed in some key locations.
 

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Again, why are people surprised?
Do you seriously believe that the US didnt know that Haftar was being supported by Russia way before Turkish intervention? They absolutely did know! Yet they didnt intervene, because Russia is doing what the US wants!

Europe and USA stance on Africa and the middle east is quite clear..... and it is that democracy is prohibited in such areas! From Morocco to Egypt and from Turkey to all the Gulf nations! With Haftar, even if he is influenced by Russia, USA will still have leverage as they still control the Global Economy!

The only democracies in the middle east that are left are Algeria and Turkey. Why do you guys think that Turkey is the prime enemy of the US in the middle east? Do you believe that the US didnt have a hand in the 2016 Coup in Turkey? Soon both of turkey and algeria will fall and I assure you that democracy will never rise again in the middle east until at least 20 more years into the future!
Again, why are people surprised?
Do you seriously believe that the US didnt know that Haftar was being supported by Russia way before Turkish intervention? They absolutely did know! Yet they didnt intervene, because Russia is doing what the US wants!

Europe and USA stance on Africa and the middle east is quite clear..... and it is that democracy is prohibited in such areas! From Morocco to Egypt and from Turkey to all the Gulf nations! With Haftar, even if he is influenced by Russia, USA will still have leverage as they still control the Global Economy!

The only democracies in the middle east that are left are Algeria and Turkey. Why do you guys think that Turkey is the prime enemy of the US in the middle east? Do you believe that the US didnt have a hand in the 2016 Coup in Turkey? Soon both of turkey and algeria will fall and I assure you that democracy will never rise again in the middle east until at least 20 more years into the future!
Great comment, but Turkey has no equal in the MENA region. Some Western powers (e.g. the USA) are evidently not happy about Turkey expressing its sovereignty and its rightful regional leadership in helping Libya stabilize, and no power can change that reality. North African countries (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria) want and need more Turkish leadership in North Africa, and this a great opportunity for Turkey to play its natural role in the North African region and in Africa as a whole.
 
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Turkey has no equal in the MENA region. The U.S. and other Western powers are evidently not happy about Turkey expressing its sovereignty and its rightful regional leadership in helping Libya stabilize, yet no power can change that reality. The other option would be to let the UAE and Egypt with their sponsor Russia turn Libya into another Talibanistan. North African countries (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria) want and need more Turkish leadership in North Africa both economically and with regard to national security. Algerians convey to me their desire to see Turkey playing a larger role with its presence economically and otherwise in their country instead of France. This would be a great opportunity for Turkey to play its natural role in the North African region and in Africa as a whole.
 
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Turkey has no equal in the MENA region. The U.S. and other Western powers are evidently not happy about Turkey expressing its sovereignty and its rightful regional leadership in helping Libya stabilize, yet no power can change that reality. The other option would be to let the UAE and Egypt with their sponsor Russia turn Libya into another Talibanistan. North African countries (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria) want and need more Turkish leadership in North Africa both economically and with regard to national security. Algerians convey to me their desire to see Turkey having a larger presence economically in their country instead of France. This would be a great opportunity for Turkey to play its natural role in the North African region and in Africa as a whole.

Amazighs and Turks know how to work together.

I cant say the same for Arabs. Working with them is a pain in the ass.

Seriously the better Non Arab Muslims drop the Arabs the better our situation will be.

Arabs cant be saved or helped. They pretty much prefer their situation.

Gulf Arabs are so terrified of Turkey, Algeria, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tunisia, Azerbaijan and Central Asian Countries working together without them. I forgot Bangladesh despite their neutrality they are working a lot with Turkey and the countries above.

A new bloc is going to be formed that would render Saudi run OIC useless.
 
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Amazighs and Turks know how to work together.

I cant say the same for Arabs. Working with them is a pain in the ass.

Seriously the better Non Arab Muslims drop the Arabs the better our situation will be.

Arabs cant be saved or helped. They pretty much prefer their situation.

Gulf Arabs are so terrified of Turkey, Algeria, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tunisia, Azerbaijan and Central Asian Countries working together without them.
We believe in National Sovereignty and negotiating with the other (The West) as an Equal. GCC, Egypt, Morocco and Jordan believe in being submissive to the West. We obtained our independence with the blood of our martyrs, most of them are still British or French protectorates to this day. This is the fundamental difference we have with them.
 

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What use does the OIC give???

OIC is a useless organisation.

Muslims can solve their problems without having to involve Arabs.

Im not going on some Anti Arab rant. Im just critical of their politics and policies also how they do the bidding of their masters.

If they cant change their situation why should we bother in helping them??
 

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Egyptians believed that they stopped the Turks as we did not cross the redline.

I remember when the Turks intervened that the Egyptians were chest thumping about how they are not going to allow the Turks enter Libya. Egyptians had no problem with the UAE sending their soldiers as cannon fodder.

I do believe some Egyptian soldiers got killed in Libya. There were pictures of their coffins being leaked on the internet but covered up as a casualty in the Sinai.

Im wondering how many did get killed as nothing got acknowledged about their presence.
 

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We believe in National Sovereignty and negotiating with the other (The West) as an Equal. GCC, Egypt, Morocco and Jordan believe in being submissive to the West. We obtained our independence with the blood of our martyrs, most of them are still British or French protectorates to this day. This is the fundamental difference we have with them.
Hey brother Nakib. Are you really denying western or french influence over Algeria? From the way you talk it seems like you think that Algeria is free and independent from the thiefes in the west.
 

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Hey brother Nakib. Are you really denying western or french influence over Algeria? From the way you talk it seems like you think that Algeria is free and independent from the thiefes in the west.
I'm not here to diminish any country, but Algeria lost 1.5 Million martyrs to free its 2.4 Million square km territory from the French, when France had more than 1 million military force in Algeria to fight the Algerian freedom fighters. Algerians didn't beg France to grant them their independence, they paid the price of Freedom with the blood of their Martyrs. There is not one country in the so called Arab world that resembles Algeria in its struggle and sacrifices against Colonialism. Algeria is named the "Mecca" of Revolutions.
 
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