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Truly worrisome developments
I wonder why turkey is doing nothing about libya these days
Like sign more deals
Supply the GNA with more advanced weaponry like howitzers, rockets and place hisar in libya
Who knows, maybe the data obtained may be useful later on

Relax the Turkish armed forces are training the Libyan army. Al Watiyah is getting rebuilt and refurbished.

Turkish Frigates have been active lately.

Compared to last time its much better. Where the GNA was alone and was on the brink. This time its going to be much better prepared.
 

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Truly worrisome developments
I wonder why turkey is doing nothing about libya these days
Like sign more deals
Supply the GNA with more advanced weaponry like howitzers, rockets and place hisar in libya
Who knows, maybe the data obtained may be useful later on
The Egyptians invited Saleh and Haftar to the show, both didn't show up :ROFLMAO:
 

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As part of the activities of the Turkish Naval Task Group, our TCG GEMLIK frigate and the SAT team on board; free rope gliding, helicopter refueling in the Air, approach in low visibility conditions and Asymmetric Threat training.

 

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Well, I did say that GNA should be aiming to kill him IF he is stupid enough to kick hostilities off again. You may not think much of the guy but he IS a figurehead.
 

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Well, I did say that GNA should be aiming to kill him IF he is stupid enough to kick hostilities off again. You may not think much of the guy but he IS a figurehead.

As long as Haftar leads you will win every war against the LNA. Last thing you want to do is help the enemy.
 

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Well, I did say that GNA should be aiming to kill him IF he is stupid enough to kick hostilities off again. You may not think much of the guy but he IS a figurehead.

Haftar is a loser look at his track record not one win.

All he ever took was L's. His just pissed off because he has no wins and got stopped in becoming the supreme ruler of Libya.
 

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The Egyptians invited Saleh and Haftar to the show, both didn't show up :ROFLMAO:
Saleh was in greece at that time, I believe. Probably kissing and begging the greeks for support
 
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Haftar is a loser look at his track record not one win.

All he ever took was L's. His just pissed off because he has no wins and got stopped in becoming the supreme ruler of Libya.
Again, its not like haftar just suddenly started his campaign out of thin air
Haftar needs to be a loser in order for egypt, uae, ksa, russia, amd france to effectively steal and plunder the country's resources. If haftar had a decent brain, many would find it difficult to obtain what they want


What Iam worried about isnt haftar himself; it is those who are supporting him
If they learnt from their mistakes, they may easily turn the tables at any moment
You guys are underestimating the power and allure of shit tons of money
They may have even made plans to rig the election one way or another
I still cant believe that any libyan will vote for him unless they were bribed, threatened or just pure insane; yet, he is so persistent for elections that it is rather strange
 

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Again, its not like haftar just suddenly started his campaign out of thin air
Haftar needs to be a loser in order for egypt, uae, ksa, russia, amd france to effectively steal and plunder the country's resources. If haftar had a decent brain, many would find it difficult to obtain what they want


What Iam worried about isnt haftar himself; it is those who are supporting him
If they learnt from their mistakes, they may easily turn the tables at any moment
You guys are underestimating the power and allure of shit tons of money
They may have even made plans to rig the election one way or another
I still cant believe that any libyan will vote for him unless they were bribed, threatened or just pure insane; yet, he is so persistent for elections that it is rather strange

Eastern Libyans back because his their man.

Its all racial and tribal.
 

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Again, its not like haftar just suddenly started his campaign out of thin air
Haftar needs to be a loser in order for egypt, uae, ksa, russia, amd france to effectively steal and plunder the country's resources. If haftar had a decent brain, many would find it difficult to obtain what they want


What Iam worried about isnt haftar himself; it is those who are supporting him
If they learnt from their mistakes, they may easily turn the tables at any moment
You guys are underestimating the power and allure of shit tons of money
They may have even made plans to rig the election one way or another
I still cant believe that any libyan will vote for him unless they were bribed, threatened or just pure insane; yet, he is so persistent for elections that it is rather strange

No one is really underestimating anything, Turkey knows she's in Libya alone against many nations whose combined military might and resources eclipses Turkey. But if we don't fight we defacto lose, so lets fight and lets fight good.

But lets take a moment to look at it from the enemies perspective, all that military capability and all that money and here is Turkey alone slapping them all about across multiple theatres.
 

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No one is really underestimating anything, Turkey knows she's in Libya alone against many nations whose combined military might and resources eclipses Turkey. But if we don't fight we defacto lose, so lets fight and lets fight good.

But lets take a moment to look at it from the enemies perspective, all that military capability and all that money and here is Turkey alone slapping them all about across multiple theatres.

Not to mention the GNA were left alone until the Turks intervened.

Italy the backstabbers were waiting for the GNA to fall. Thats why they were so outspoken of our intervention.
 

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Libya's rejection of any constitutional basis that would return the country to dictatorship


Libya's political and military institutions have declared their refusal to accept the constitutional basis that would lead to the return of despotism by allowing the candidacy of those who have caused bloodshed in the country's upcoming elections.

After the members of the Libyan Political Dialogue Forum announced that they had failed to reach a compromise on the constitutional basis for the December 24 elections at meetings held in Switzerland on June 28-July 3, the president of the Libyan Supreme Council (DDIK) Khalid Al-Mishri, the Justice and Construction Party (JCP) and the Army-affiliated force to protect the west of Tripoli received occasional statements.

DYK President Mishri said on his Facebook account that the reason for the strengthening of the dialogue is an effort to impose situations such as giving soldiers and foreign citizens the opportunity to run.

Addressing Caliph Hafter, the leader of the illegitimate armed forces in eastern Libya, Mishri said::

"Take off your military uniform, get out of your U.S. citizenship, correct your legal status associated with war crimes, but you will again lose at the ballot boxes as you lost at the ammunition ballot boxes."

In a written statement on its official Facebook page, the Justice and Construction Party (JCP) said that political dialogue meetings and their associated results require the collective political participation of all national political currents and groups without distinction.

"The issue that the party wants to achieve in the country is the construction of a stable and civilian state that rejects despotism and one-man rule and solves the troubles of the people."the statements were included.

The party demanded that the UN mission make efforts to organize the dialogue forum as soon as possible, while better preparing for this meeting and focusing on the approved roadmap.

In a statement, the Western Tripoli Protection Force, referring to Hafter, declared that it "completely rejects any offer and outcome that would allow the candidacy of a person who has caused the bloodshed of Libyans and attempted a coup against legitimate rule in the country."

He stressed that the conduct of future elections will be mandatory, as Libyans will accept after a referendum on the constitutional bill is held.

On the other hand, Libyan Prime Minister Abdulhamid Dibeybe called on the UN delegation and all national parties in the country to be aware of their responsibilities and to take into account the general public interest and to reach a compromise in a way that will ensure that the elections are held on the date.

In Libya, there are concerns about the adoption of the constitutional basis that allows Khalifa Hafter, a commander of militias that have fought for years against the internationally recognized government of national reconciliation, to run for president.

The roadmap, previously approved under UN auspices, provides for the draft constitution to be submitted to a referendum before the elections. But a group in Libya is calling for the referendum to be postponed until after the election and for a temporary constitutional basis to be adopted due to time constraints and logistical obstacles.

In Libya, which has been embroiled in civil war and political crises since the February 2011 revolution that ended Muammar Gaddafi's regime, stability and security have not been achieved because the coup-winning Caliph Hafter militia, supported by Russia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and France, controls the country's East.

 

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Not to mention the GNA were left alone until the Turks intervened.

Italy the backstabbers were waiting for the GNA to fall. Thats why they were so outspoken of our intervention.

Politically speaking italy has a long and deep history of being shameless, treacherous and above all duplicitous. These things shouldn't come as surprises. All dealings with Italy must take into account her historic character, so that nothing comes as a surprise.

Within Europe their are quite a few nations who are happy to benefit themselves at the wider cost to Europe, Italy is one of them. Originally it was the Italian navy that transported Ottoman troops from Anatolia to Europe.

Italy will sell any nation out at a moments notice, they don't deal with honour in politics.
 

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Not to mention the GNA were left alone until the Turks intervened.

Italy the backstabbers were waiting for the GNA to fall. Thats why they were so outspoken of our intervention.

Even the GNA behaved like fools, they kept gambling on america and europe refusing Turkeys help, without realising the west already got everything they want from Libya from Hafter. The GNA was to be destroyed, only once it reached a point where if we are being honest it was over for the GNA, did the GNA call Turkey in. Once Turkey moved in, we all know what happened.

But if they took Turkeys side earlier, most of Libya would be under their control today and the western thieves would no longer be able to pillage those lands.
 

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So Haftar's side doesn't want to make concessions, but expects GNA to give in. At the same time they're stregtegning their military position, latest with Egypt opening a new naval base.

This will continue until Libya gets divided permanently unless someone stops it.
 

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So Haftar's side doesn't want to make concessions, but expects GNA to give in.
From what I read, Haftar wants to become a candidate in the presidential epection; something which the GNA said no to because he is a war criminal. With the US abandoning him, if he didnt win the lection the will be killed in a matter of days. In fact, just this week he began his election campaign!!
At the same time they're stregtegning their military position, latest with Egypt opening a new naval base.

This will continue until Libya gets divided permanently unless someone stops it.
Again, this is what Iam worried about. Why would egypt build such a base if they believed that haftar would win? They do know that he wont win and are building up their resources in order to cut turkey's supply route to the GNA. In the last days, Haftar allies have been covering the bases to prevent a new possible screw up; thus, when the war starts, turkey will be in a dire situation
That is why turkey need to pressure the US into pressuring Egypt and Haftar to make this concessions. Though, i wonder if it will succeed as they need Haftar's idiocy to move forward their agenda. In the worst possiboe situation, libya will be split into 2 different countries (East and West); by then, turkey's claims to their economic EEZ in the Mediteranean will be lost

Turkey needs to act quick
 

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Turkey's role in Libya reconstruction 'important', insists official​


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It is important to implement the cooperation agreements signed between Libya and Turkey regarding the reconstruction of the war torn country, a Libyan official announced yesterday.

The undersecretary of the Libyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mohamed Issa, told reporters that the return and the resumption of operations of Turkish companies would "significantly contribute to Libya's reconstruction."

Issa's remarks came following a meeting with the Turkish Ambassador to Libya, Kenan Yilmaz, in the Libyan capital Tripoli.

On his part, Yilmaz said his country was "ready to work on strengthening mutual relations with Libya."

Turkey has long enjoyed distinguished relations with the internationally-accredited Libyan Government of National Accord (GNA) in various fields. This authority was replaced by the Libyan Transitional Government which is due to step down after elections are held in late December.

On 12 April, Ankara and Tripoli concluded five multi-sectoral agreements to strengthen mutual ties.

 

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