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Mavi Vatan 2021 Exercise was completed. 82 ships, 5 submarines, 27 aircraft, 20 helicopters, 8 UAVs and 5,437 personnel worked in the exercise.

F-16 flying armed with SLAM-ER Training Missile (CATM-84K-1A) in recent Mavi Vatan 2021 Exercise
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Currently Oruç reis is before Antalya, The ship isnt towing cables over the disputed sea territory. So we seem to give up Mediterranean gas and oil resources which were said to make us rich.
people were speaking about billions of metercub gas and oil , according to president we would be opulent. Again ruined dreams.
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Some people here were meant to conquer Athen, again we forgot those war drums.
 
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Currently Oruç reis is before Antalya, The ship isnt towing cables over the disputed sea territory. So we seem to give up Mediterranean gas and oil resources which were said to make us rich.
people were speaking about billions of metercub gas and oil , according to president we would be opulent. Again ruined dreams.

They should defintive send the vessel out again just to remind the greeks of their place.
 

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"Egypt denies Turkish claims over Mediterranean talks | Arab News" https://www.arabnews.com/node/1821661/middle-east
IMO, The language from the Turkish side was more “never say never” rather than “we’re ready to do whatever it takes”. What Turkey has done here is shown the Egyptian public and Arabs in general that by doing it Turkey’s way, Egypt gains significantly more than from their agreement with the Greeks. So it’s made to look like Sisi isn’t acting in the best interests of Egyptians and is being spiteful and unreasonable in contrast to Turkey who is speaking of ways to benefit Egypt.
 
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I agree. No one should take anything for granted.
the 3 countries ( Egypt ,Greece and Turkey ) are playing chess game over the eastern mediterranean and personally im enjoying the game
 

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I can't understand why having small military outposts on Greek islands is considered a threat...

International law says that shouldn't happen. These islands and islets that are very close to Turkey were given to Greece with this condition.
 

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"Egypt denies Turkish claims over Mediterranean talks | Arab News" https://www.arabnews.com/node/1821661/middle-east

By the way, I am not saying this isnt true but ''Arabnews'' is a UAE funded media so I would take this with a grain of salt.
Considering how Greek media insulted Egypts bureucracy and Greek minister immediately went on an Egypt trip I would say if these is so much smoke coming out, there must be fire too.
 

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International law says that shouldn't happen. These islands and islets that are very close to Turkey were given to Greece with this condition.
The claim that Greece’s islands must be demilitarized, as continuously repeated by Turkey, is a manipulation of the Lausanne Treaty. For this reason, Athens will continually shut down any discussions of demilitarization. If we look at the case of the southeastern Aegean islands, collectively known as the Dodecanese, they are not held accountable to the Lausanne Treaty as Greece did not achieve sovereignty over the islands until more than two decades after the Treaty was signed. Instead, the Dodecanese are held accountable to the Paris Treaty, that Turkey is not a signatory of. Therefore, Turkey’s insistence on the demilitarization of the Dodecanese constitutes a “res inter alios acta.” According to Article 34 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, a treaty does not create obligations or rights for third countries, meaning that Turkey cannot demand that the Dodecanese islands be demilitarized.

In the case of Lesvos, Chios, Samos and Ikaria, the Lausanne Treaty makes no mention of these islands having to be demilitarized, but rather there can be no naval bases and no army fortifications. In addition, there can be no professional military presence besides the National Guard, a volunteer corps, which Greece has adhered to.

With regards to Limnos and Samothrace, the demilitarization of these islands, along with the demilitarization of the Turkish-controlled Dardanelle and Bosporus Straits, as well as the Sea of Marmara and the Turkish-controlled Imvros (Gokceada), Tenedos (Bozcaada) and Rabbit Islands (Tavcan), the 1923 Lausanne Treaty on the Straits stipulated that these areas of both Greece and Turkey must be demilitarized. However, this was annulled by the , which, as it categorically states, replaces in its entirety the Lausanne Treaty regarding militarization. Greece’s right to militarize Limnos and Samothrace was recognized by Turkish Ambassador in Athens at the time, Roussen Esref, with a letter sent to Greek Prime Minister Ioannis Metaxas on May 6, 1936. The Turkish government reiterated this position when the then Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Rustu Aras, in his address to the Turkish National Assembly recognized Greece’s legal right to deploy troops on Limnos and Samothrace, with the following statement:

“The provisions pertaining to the islands of Limnos and Samothrace, which belong to our neighbor and friendly country Greece and were demilitarized in application of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty, were also abolished by the new Montreux Treaty, which gives us great pleasure.”

In exchange, Turkey was able to militarize its islands, the Marmara Sea and the Straits, that they were not able to do due to the Lausanne Treaty.
 

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International law is just a fancy story, and trusting this story can be disappointing. There is strength and weakness in this equation. You are either at the table or at the menu.
 

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