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Militarization of Aegean Islands
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A 30 km demilitarized zone is being created to the east and west on the Türkiye-Greek border, which is not definite in the additional articles of the Lausanne Treaty.Why did you check the Loussanne Peace treaty?
Jesus Christif the white Turks don't know their history, how could Türkiye deal with international problems?
Why on earth you should investigate "Lausanne peace treaty "which gave you more sovereignty?
İ will check all you at history?
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The reason for this is the determination of the border in this area, either according to the vote of the local people, or whichever nation's population is crowded in that region, those lands will be given to that nation.
A soldier-free zone was created for reasons such as the fact that the borders were not yet clear and the soldiers did not change the demographic structure.
In 1936, when the border region selection was completed, the Türkiye government suppressed both the straits and the Greek border, and the demilitarization decisions were abolished. This situation is not a one-way action of Türkiye. It is the result of an international agreement.
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It will just harm Russians
Türkiye has access to the Mediterranean sea. Russians will have to ask to 2 countries to reach the Mediterranean.
First they would have to ask us to pass straits, then to Greeks( indeed US and EU)
That's why Russian trolls are here teaching us our history.
Calm down no war!
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Erdogan: "We see what has been done in Dedaağaç and on the islands. After we put on our protective armor, these wouldnt give us any fear. We have precautions, everything is ready."
I think What is referred to as 'armor' in this rhetoric is quite predictable.
I think What is referred to as 'armor' in this rhetoric is quite predictable.
Friends, I have been following the Greek defense media since the last message in this topic.
They do not report on armament on the islands.
There is a situation as if someone gave instructions to the media. Otherwise, the Greek media would constantly make these actions a great military success on the agenda.
Elections are approaching in Greece. In fact, the Michyotakis government was expected to use the landing of these armored vehicles on the islands as propaganda. But the government is also silent about it.
The silence request regarding the arming of these islands may be from the USA.
Anyway, the small military presence on the islands is not very important militarily for Türkiye.
But one night is the key to our sudden departure!
They do not report on armament on the islands.
There is a situation as if someone gave instructions to the media. Otherwise, the Greek media would constantly make these actions a great military success on the agenda.
Elections are approaching in Greece. In fact, the Michyotakis government was expected to use the landing of these armored vehicles on the islands as propaganda. But the government is also silent about it.
The silence request regarding the arming of these islands may be from the USA.
Anyway, the small military presence on the islands is not very important militarily for Türkiye.
But one night is the key to our sudden departure!
Greece carried out exercises on the Rodos island that opposite of Marmaris and gave a message by highlighting the multi-barrel rocket systems and Apache helicopters whose range reached Marmaris.
But the good thing is, they confirmed all the arguments we defended according to international law.
Another Greek argument in these exercises was that they continued the exercises at night, implying that they had night operation capabilities.
However, we know that night operations capacities are limited.
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An army whose officers rob banks needs to reconsider its spending.
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Army colonel charged with multiple bank robberies | eKathimerini.com
A colonel in the Greek Army faces felony charges after being formally accused on Tuesday of holding up at least three Athens banks with the threat of violence.
Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan'ın füze mesajı, Yunanistan'da yankılandı
Yunan gazeteleri, Erdoğan'ın Atina'ya uyarısına dikkati çekti. Haberlerde, Yunanlılar sakinleşmezse Atina'yı vuracak şeklinde ifadelere vurgu yapıldı.
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"President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan reacted to Greece's provocations in the Aegean and Mediterranean Seas and to the equipping of the islands with weapons.
Meeting with young people in Samsun, Erdogan pointed to the missile activities and said, "You say a typhoon, now the Greek is scared and says, 'It will hit Athens.' Of course, if you don't stay calm, if you try to buy something from the United States to the islands, a country like Turkey will probably not pick pears. " said.
Erdogan's words aroused wide repercussions in the Greek media. In the news, it was noted that Athens was threatened."
We hope that the message has been received from the opposite shore of the Aegean Sea.
In my opinion, the best action to be taken against Greece regarding the arming of the Aegean Islands may be to increase the strategy of increasing the controlled military tension against Syria for Öcalan.
An island is determined close to our coast, this island is besieged by our warships, the military presence here is revealed to the world with photographs. It is requested that the Greek military presence on this island and other islands be terminated according to the agreements.
Otherwise, it is declared that this military asset will be destroyed by shooting. The rest is known.
Επίσκεψη Α/ΓΕΕΘΑ σε Ψαρά, Λήμνο και Δωδεκάνησα - Πτήση
Συνεχίζοντας την περιοδεία του στις ακριτικές περιοχές της χώρας, ο αρχηγός ΓΕΕΘΑ Κωνσταντίνος Φλώρος, επισκέφθηκε χθες Τετάρτη μονάδες των ενόπλων δυνάμεων στα Δωδεκάνησα, στα Ψαρά και στην Λήμνο, για ανταλλαγή ευχών με το προσωπικό. Απευθυνόμενος σε στελέχη και στρατευμένους, ο αρχηγός ΓΕΕΘΑ...
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Yunanistan, Türkiye'ye yönelik tahriklerini sürdürüyor
Yunan Genelkurmay Başkanı Konstantinos Floros, Yunanistan tarafından uluslararası hukuka aykırı olarak işgal edilen Keçi Adası’nı ziyaret edip, adada bulunan birliği denetledi.
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"**Greece continues its provocations against Turkey.
Greek Chief of Staff Konstantinos Floros visited Keçi Island, which was occupied by Greece in violation of international law, and inspected the unit on the island.
Floros went to Keçi Island, which is located in Turkish territorial waters according to international agreements and is known for its proximity to Bodrum.
The Greek Chief of the General Staff supervised the Greek troops on the island, where settlement and placement of soldiers were prohibited.
The Greek Chief of General Staff also used the expression "We are on alert and prepared" in his social media account.
On the other hand, the island, which is about 8 kilometers from the shores of Bodrum Akyarlar, has been under Greek occupation since 2004.
Greece even maintains an artillery unit on the island, which should be unarmed.**"
Not content with these, the Greek chief of staff continued his threats and provocations by photographing and sharing the town of Turgutreis in the Bodrum district with the Greek flag in the background.
But when they go to Europe, they suddenly become a victim.
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Now it's time to allocate active units to the Aegean army command.
Greece stubbornly places artillery batteries and artillery rocket batteries on the islands close to our country so that they can hit our mainland.
Presumably, in a time of crisis, Apache will support these islands with oh-58 kiowa armed helicopters, f16 planes, vesseld.
Troops and equipment should be placed on our west coasts to stop or hit these threats.
Of course, these units need to be coordinated and guided under a command structure. This will be the task of the Aegean army.
Greece stubbornly places artillery batteries and artillery rocket batteries on the islands close to our country so that they can hit our mainland.
Presumably, in a time of crisis, Apache will support these islands with oh-58 kiowa armed helicopters, f16 planes, vesseld.
Troops and equipment should be placed on our west coasts to stop or hit these threats.
Of course, these units need to be coordinated and guided under a command structure. This will be the task of the Aegean army.
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The question on my mind is, what would happen if some "traitorous" drone operator suddenly flung something their way?Επίσκεψη Α/ΓΕΕΘΑ σε Ψαρά, Λήμνο και Δωδεκάνησα - Πτήση
Συνεχίζοντας την περιοδεία του στις ακριτικές περιοχές της χώρας, ο αρχηγός ΓΕΕΘΑ Κωνσταντίνος Φλώρος, επισκέφθηκε χθες Τετάρτη μονάδες των ενόπλων δυνάμεων στα Δωδεκάνησα, στα Ψαρά και στην Λήμνο, για ανταλλαγή ευχών με το προσωπικό. Απευθυνόμενος σε στελέχη και στρατευμένους, ο αρχηγός ΓΕΕΘΑ...
Yunanistan, Türkiye'ye yönelik tahriklerini sürdürüyor
Yunan Genelkurmay Başkanı Konstantinos Floros, Yunanistan tarafından uluslararası hukuka aykırı olarak işgal edilen Keçi Adası’nı ziyaret edip, adada bulunan birliği denetledi.
"**Greece continues its provocations against Turkiye.
Greek Chief of Staff Konstantinos Floros visited Keçi Island, which was occupied by Greece in violation of international law, and inspected the unit on the island.
Floros went to Keçi Island, which is located in Turkish territorial waters according to international agreements and is known for its proximity to Bodrum.
The Greek Chief of the General Staff supervised the Greek troops on the island, where settlement and placement of soldiers were prohibited.
The Greek Chief of General Staff also used the expression "We are on alert and prepared" in his social media account.
On the other hand, the island, which is about 8 kilometers from the shores of Bodrum Akyarlar, has been under Greek occupation since 2004.
Greece even maintains an artillery unit on the island, which should be unarmed.**"
Not content with these, the Greek chief of staff continued his threats and provocations by photographing and sharing the town of Turgutreis in the Bodrum district with the Greek flag in the background.
But when they go to Europe, they suddenly become a victim. View attachment 51999 View attachment 52000
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First of all, I think there are no more traitors in the army. Let's suppose there is and he did this treacherous act.
We have already experienced this in Syria before. As a result, Türkiye and Russia became strategic partners!
I mean, the war doesn't come out of a sudden event before both sides are ready.
Greece does not respond immediately, demands compensation.
In my opinion, at a time when russia is militarily active, the usa, eu and nato will not allow two member and partner countries to go to war.
Also, I think that this trip of the Greek chief of staff may have been reported to Türkiye in advance in order to take precautions against accidents and sabotage-type incidents as you mentioned.
So right now there is this level of goodwill between the two countries.
It is also a strategic tactic for Greece to arm its islands close to our mainland. So it's kind of like keeping the opponent at a distance.
If you ask why, in case of a crisis, we will spend the power, the energy, that we should spend for the Greek mainland, to stop and destroy the Greek weapons located on the islands very close to our mainland.
We can not know how much time, ammunition, personnel, money and equipment this situation will distract our army.
This situation prevents the tactic of dividing the power of Greece by making simultaneous operations from Tırakya and the Aegean Sea to the Greek mainland.
If you ask why, in case of a crisis, we will spend the power, the energy, that we should spend for the Greek mainland, to stop and destroy the Greek weapons located on the islands very close to our mainland.
We can not know how much time, ammunition, personnel, money and equipment this situation will distract our army.
This situation prevents the tactic of dividing the power of Greece by making simultaneous operations from Tırakya and the Aegean Sea to the Greek mainland.
Yunanistan'ın Ege'de en çok silahlandırdığı 5 stratejik ada belli oldu
Haber 7 - Yunanistan, Ege'de 23 adadan 18'ini silah deposu ve askeri üs haline getirdi. Uzmanlar, cephaneliğe çevrilen adaların Türkiye için tehdit oluşturduğunu belirtiyor. Ankara, konuyu BM ve NATO'ya taşıyabilir.
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"**While the tension between Türkiye and Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean continued, Athens' arming of many non-military islands in the Aegean Sea came to the fore again. Violating the 4th and 14th articles of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty and the 14th article of the Paris Peace Conference resolutions in 1947, Greece turned 18 out of 23 islands into weapons depots and military bases. Experts state that the islands, which have been turned into arsenals, pose a threat to Türkiye.
Athens, which has deployed thousands of soldiers to these islands, has placed anti-aircraft guns, tanks, artillery batteries and air defense systems there. The data of the Türk Rpublic of North Cyprus-based Diplomatic Strategy Research Center are as follows:
Lesbos: 1 division and its main units, 2 infantry regiments, 7 infantry battalions, 1 special national guard battalion, 3 tank battalions, 4 artillery battalions and 1 anti-aircraft battalion.
Island of Midilli: 1 brigade and its main units; 1 infantry regiment, 4 infantry battalions, 1 special national guard battalion, 1 tank battalion, 1 anti-aircraft battalion, 7,500 soldiers.
ISLAND OF SİSAM: 1 brigade and its main units; 1 infantry regiment, 4 infantry battalions, 2 mechanized battalions, 2 tank battalions, 2 artillery battalions, 1 anti-aircraft battalion, 7,500 soldiers.
RHODES ISLAND: 1 division and its main units; 2 infantry regiments, 7 infantry battalions, 1 special national guard battalion, 3 artillery battalions, 1 commando battalion, 1 anti-aircraft battalion, 7,500 soldiers.
İSTANKÖY ISLAND: 1 brigade and its main units; 1 infantry regiment, 4 infantry battalions, 1 special guard battalion, 2 tank battalions, 8 thousand soldiers.
It is also stated that there are 6 land bases, 2 naval bases and two Greek helicopter bases on the islands, 1 battalion of soldiers at the land base on Koyun Island, one battalion of soldiers each on Donkey İsland, Bulamaç and Hurşit islands, where a naval and helicopter base is located, and a helicopter base in Kalolimnoz and Goat İslands of Muğla.
It is noted that there is one battalion of soldiers at the land bases on the islands. It is stated that Greece, which has armed the islands, has also built military airports on the islands of Lemnos, İstanköy, Kos and Rhodes for jet operations against Türkiye.
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How is Pserimos island illegally occupied? Enlighten me....Επίσκεψη Α/ΓΕΕΘΑ σε Ψαρά, Λήμνο και Δωδεκάνησα - Πτήση
Συνεχίζοντας την περιοδεία του στις ακριτικές περιοχές της χώρας, ο αρχηγός ΓΕΕΘΑ Κωνσταντίνος Φλώρος, επισκέφθηκε χθες Τετάρτη μονάδες των ενόπλων δυνάμεων στα Δωδεκάνησα, στα Ψαρά και στην Λήμνο, για ανταλλαγή ευχών με το προσωπικό. Απευθυνόμενος σε στελέχη και στρατευμένους, ο αρχηγός ΓΕΕΘΑ...
Yunanistan, Türkiye'ye yönelik tahriklerini sürdürüyor
Yunan Genelkurmay Başkanı Konstantinos Floros, Yunanistan tarafından uluslararası hukuka aykırı olarak işgal edilen Keçi Adası’nı ziyaret edip, adada bulunan birliği denetledi.
"**Greece continues its provocations against Turkiye.
Greek Chief of Staff Konstantinos Floros visited Keçi Island, which was occupied by Greece in violation of international law, and inspected the unit on the island.
Floros went to Keçi Island, which is located in Turkish territorial waters according to international agreements and is known for its proximity to Bodrum.
The Greek Chief of the General Staff supervised the Greek troops on the island, where settlement and placement of soldiers were prohibited.
The Greek Chief of General Staff also used the expression "We are on alert and prepared" in his social media account.
On the other hand, the island, which is about 8 kilometers from the shores of Bodrum Akyarlar, has been under Greek occupation since 2004.
Greece even maintains an artillery unit on the island, which should be unarmed.**"
Not content with these, the Greek chief of staff continued his threats and provocations by photographing and sharing the town of Turgutreis in the Bodrum district with the Greek flag in the background.
But when they go to Europe, they suddenly become a victim. View attachment 51999 View attachment 52000
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What's the total amount of troops present?Yunanistan'ın Ege'de en çok silahlandırdığı 5 stratejik ada belli oldu
Haber 7 - Yunanistan, Ege'de 23 adadan 18'ini silah deposu ve askeri üs haline getirdi. Uzmanlar, cephaneliğe çevrilen adaların Türkiye için tehdit oluşturduğunu belirtiyor. Ankara, konuyu BM ve NATO'ya taşıyabilir.
"**While the tension between Türkiye and Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean continued, Athens' arming of many non-military islands in the Aegean Sea came to the fore again. Violating the 4th and 14th articles of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty and the 14th article of the Paris Peace Conference resolutions in 1947, Greece turned 18 out of 23 islands into weapons depots and military bases. Experts state that the islands, which have been turned into arsenals, pose a threat to Türkiye.
Athens, which has deployed thousands of soldiers to these islands, has placed anti-aircraft guns, tanks, artillery batteries and air defense systems there. The data of the Türk Rpublic of North Cyprus-based Diplomatic Strategy Research Center are as follows:
Lesbos: 1 division and its main units, 2 infantry regiments, 7 infantry battalions, 1 special national guard battalion, 3 tank battalions, 4 artillery battalions and 1 anti-aircraft battalion.
Island of Midilli: 1 brigade and its main units; 1 infantry regiment, 4 infantry battalions, 1 special national guard battalion, 1 tank battalion, 1 anti-aircraft battalion, 7,500 soldiers.
ISLAND OF SİSAM: 1 brigade and its main units; 1 infantry regiment, 4 infantry battalions, 2 mechanized battalions, 2 tank battalions, 2 artillery battalions, 1 anti-aircraft battalion, 7,500 soldiers.
RHODES ISLAND: 1 division and its main units; 2 infantry regiments, 7 infantry battalions, 1 special national guard battalion, 3 artillery battalions, 1 commando battalion, 1 anti-aircraft battalion, 7,500 soldiers.
İSTANKÖY ISLAND: 1 brigade and its main units; 1 infantry regiment, 4 infantry battalions, 1 special guard battalion, 2 tank battalions, 8 thousand soldiers.
It is also stated that there are 6 land bases, 2 naval bases and two Greek helicopter bases on the islands, 1 battalion of soldiers at the land base on Koyun Island, one battalion of soldiers each on Donkey İsland, Bulamaç and Hurşit islands, where a naval and helicopter base is located, and a helicopter base in Kalolimnoz and Goat İslands of Muğla.
It is noted that there is one battalion of soldiers at the land bases on the islands. It is stated that Greece, which has armed the islands, has also built military airports on the islands of Lemnos, İstanköy, Kos and Rhodes for jet operations against Türkiye.
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