TR Military Operations in Northern Iraq

[Strong AI]

While our operations continue unabated in the Operation Claw-Lock region in northern Iraq, model planes belonging to the terrorist organization PKK are being shot down by our Turkish Armed Forces before they can harm our troops.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1827657220458238214

 

[Fuzuli NL]

MSB: Irak’ın kuzeyinde 11 PKK’lı terörist etkisiz hale getirildi | NTV Haber

Milli Savunma Bakanlığı, Irak’ın kuzeyindeki Asos ve Pençe-Kilit Operasyonu bölgelerinde tespit edilen teröristlere yönelik operasyon gerçekleştirildiğini duyurdu. Operasyonlarda 11 PKK’lı terörist etkisiz hale getirildi.

www.ntv.com.tr

11 more cockroaches were squashed.

 

[TheInsider]

Another Turkish UAV is shot down. I wrote shot down because it has clear shrapnel damage on the wing in the second photo.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829075280457036148

According to Iraqi sources, the Armed Forces of Iraq shot down the UAV. The UAV is Aksungur. 4 ground to air missiles are fired to shoot down the Aksungur UAV.

The reason is to sabotage the Turkiye, Iraq, Qatar, and UAE meeting that is happening today in Turkiye. The meeting is about a trade route that will pass through Iraq and Turkiye. Qatar and UAE is willing to provide financial aid for the project. I think the usual suspect is Iranian assets inside the Armed Forces of Iraq.

 

[Sanchez]

Another Aksungur down, bringing the number to 3 in the last year. No matter the politics with Iraqi army being fractured and it being strengthened with modern SAMs and aircraft from Korea and France, it is possible we will see similar events repeat in the future.

 

[Anmdt]

Another Aksungur down, bringing the number to 3 in the last year. No matter the politics with Iraqi army being fractured and it being strengthened with modern SAMs and aircraft from Korea and France, it is possible we will see similar events repeat in the future.

What is more saddening that the downing itself, is that the whole event affects profile and fame of Turkish UAVs. I can't really accept it calmly when those UAVs are downed by some junk Pantsirs just because those were not the targets.

 

[TheInsider]

The Iraqi side confirms that Turkiye informed Iraq about the operations of the Aksungur UAV.

Turkiye should immediately demand that the MoD of Iraq launch a probe and suspend those officers who gave the order. Turkiye should inform Iraq MoD that the next hostility will result in Turkish forces hitting the hostile forces unless they comply with this request.

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829126841656868934

The high-ranking officer who gave the order. Major General Muhannad Ghaleb Al-Asadi
Brigadier General Abdülselam Hammud announced it in a TV interview.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829116672382242889

 

[mehmed beg]

I guess this is the answer from so called Axis of Resist in regards of Haniye murder.
Hiding like a little bitc. otherwise.
I don't know what those economical agreements bring to Turkiye .
Of possible, the best way forward is to minimise any contact with any so called Islamic country.
Oh yes , throw millions of Syrians to Iraq and Iran .

 

[dBSPL]

Delegations from Iraq, the UAE and Qatar foreign ministries were to come to Istanbul today for consultations on the Iraq-Turkiye-Europe Development Road Project. Let's look at the situation from this perspective.

While the Iraqi central government signed a cooperation agreement against terrorism and exact day of foreign affairs delegation went to Turkiye to sign a framework agreement for the most important infrastructure investment in the country's history, a brigade commander whose faction is unknown, shoots down the UAV of the military force that will litterally be responsible for the security of this logistics line. This logistics line will be the lifeblood of Iraq and this project can only survive with the TAF. For Iraq goverment this incident no different than shooting oneself in the foot.

Unfortunately, we are dealing with a failed state, and most of the issues related to this failed state structure are like walking through a minefield.

 

[Tornadoss]

I think we should demand compensation.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Killing the dude who gave the order and destroying a couple Pantsir would be a proper answer...

 

[Ryder]

Killing the dude who gave the order and destroying a couple Pantsir would be a proper answer.

It wont happen as Tayyip Bey literally took out visa requirements for Iraqis entering Turkiye.

Turkiye is run by a bunch of traitorous cucks.

You know things are bad when two failed states Iraq and Syria are getting bold and attacking Turkish interests.

 

[ChadThunder74]

Another Turkish UAV is shot down. I wrote shot down because it has clear shrapnel damage on the wing in the second photo.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829075280457036148

According to Iraqi sources, the Armed Forces of Iraq shot down the UAV. The UAV is Aksungur. 4 ground to air missiles are fired to shoot down the Aksungur UAV.

The reason is to sabotage the Turkiye, Iraq, Qatar, and UAE meeting that is happening today in Turkiye. The meeting is about a trade route that will pass through Iraq and Turkiye. Qatar and UAE is willing to provide financial aid for the project. I think the usual suspect is Iranian assets inside the Armed Forces of Iraq.

Need something like trophy developed for uav, something like SARP with 40 mm ATOM but something much bigger that creates sheild protecting drone.

 

[zio]

Most of the uavs of Turkish army do not carry SAR payload,so they sometimes fly under cloud for observation,and this lead to low altitute mission and bring risk of being detected,targeted finally shot down.Akıncı and Aksungur uavs are not cheap,we have make some self defence system for them.

 

[guest12]

What we need is Turkish Global Hawk :UAV capable of flying above 60.000 altitude , an altitude happens to be above maximum altitude of many SAMs yet none in armed forces/TAI/BAYKAR seems to understand importance of this type of UAV.

 

[Asena_great]

erlik speaking to MIT agent about northern Iraq

 

[I_Love_F16]

What we need is Turkish Global Hawk :UAV capable of flying above 60.000 altitude , an altitude happens to be above maximum altitude of many SAMs yet none in armed forces/TAI/BAYKAR seems to understand importance of this type of UAV.

Yes but for that we need a suitable engine. For now we don’t have it. Maybe the TF-6000 in the future. We should design something like a bigger Anka, and then putting a TF-6000 in it. And voila.

 

[Sanchez]

Most of the uavs of Turkish army do not carry SAR payload,so they sometimes fly under cloud for observation,and this lead to low altitute mission and bring risk of being detected,targeted finally shot down.Akıncı and Aksungur uavs are not cheap,we have make some self defence system for them.

There's really no self defence system for drones like these except for DIRCM and actual lasers. Chaff and flare is used in conjunction with defensive flying. Aksungur or any other MALE drone cannot fly defensively. A simple barrel roll is not a defensive maneuver as well. DIRCM and lasers are expensive and use a lot of power, something Aksungur doesn't have with its two diesel engines. So you either don't fly them over contested areas, or accept the possible losses. This instance is of course unprecedented, as the area was more than likely deemed safe prior.

It is too soon to talk about this. With what's available, I'm leaning towards Iraqi central government trying to set some boundaries re its defence agreements with Turkey, especially re Kirkuk. Person who announced the action is an Iraqi general from the air defence command, with no known direct links to PMF or Iran. From an outside perspective, Iraq accepts Turkey's COIN operations in the north, as they are mostly powerless there anyhow, but they have been trying to rein in cities in the north(with our help in some cases) for the last 2 or so years. When we strike our targets in Iraqi cities, this also hurts the government's sovereignty.

Or, this is just Iranian elements in the army forcing their way and create a low trust situation between Turkey and Iraq. If that is the case, it would mean Iraqi military is even more fractured than previously thought post 2018, and the possibility of the Development Road going through to finish line just seems like a fool's errand. We simply lack the tools to handle Iran in Iraq.

 

[Kartal1]

This is a clear sabotage to the improving Iraqi-Turkish relations.

What we saw is again a shame. The SAM system that shot down the drone had to be taken out. When I talk about deterrence I talk about this. All enemy militias and armed forces are harassing the Turkish Armed Forces without appropriate response. There is no respect left for the TSK in our backyard.

Lets put away the deterrence point aside for a bit and think about the combat and economy part of the situation. If you research how many Aksungur drones were shot down or fell in the last 6 month and you make the calculation I am sure you will be shocked. And how many Aksungur drones are left in the inventory? A tear comes to my eye.

There are certainly two parts of the Iraqi establishment fighting right now. One of them is the part that thinks about Iraq's interests first and the second is thinking of how we can sabotage the positive Turkish-Iraqi initiative for the Iranian interests.

I will ask an important question below.

We know that the Bashiqa base will be operated by Iraq and there will be a joint Turkish-Iraqi team taking care of training of local forces. We also know that there will be a joint counter-terrorism center in Baghdad. If such an event occurs in future involving the Iraqi Armed Forces (as it already happened) or an Iraqi militia (already happened) and we are forced to give the necessary response, then what's the plan? Who is going to take care of our military personnel in these places?

So the UAV was operating above Suleymaniye (a PUK-PKK-Iran stronghold), striking targets in Cemcemal. We previously killed multiple PKK terrorists including Iranians in this area or in close proximity to this area. The UCAV was shot down over Kirkuk which has a significant Turkmen population and recent internal political tensions. So how is this going to continue? For this economy project to proceed we should be cleaning PKK from Gara and Sinjar and we can not make it otherwise. How we should do it while there are people inside the Iraqi Government that are trying everything possible to prevent this project from happening?

Iraqi MP Ali Bandawi:

"The shooting down of the Turkish UAV in Kirkuk was a strong message to the international coalition forces and Turkiye.

Turkiye must immediately end its violations of Iraqi airspace."

So this was a message... Well, the last time we gave you a message 2 Iraqi generals were roasted while they were in a meeting with PKK terrorists. I am not sure if this is the best messaging procedure available especially right now. We also have our cards that we can play and believe me that one of the keys to your imaginable "sovereignty" is crossing trough Turkiye and if needed the whole region will burn together with you 30 more years. Come to your senses and take the hand of friendship that is extended by Turkiye. The ones that gave the order for this UCAV to be shot down will bring only misfortune for your future generations. Be smart!

Meanwhile the determination of the TSK in its areas of operation is full. We established new bases and control points in critical places and this winter is expected to continue without serious problems. PKK's logistics resupply capability is heavily hit and they will most probably not be able to resupply their tunnel networks within the operation Claw-Lock area anymore. They are in panic right now and this is proven by the recent attempt of high ranking leader to run from the Sida tunnel where he was neutralized. I also see the recent appointments of commanders in units concerning the counter-terrorism operations as very positive. The appointments are special forces service heavy so we expect to see TSK continuing to adapt its tactics and make unexpected moves with an operation style different than before, just as we saw during the recent operations in Metina where we managed to do what we had to do with a minimal casualties and a shocked enemy that couldn't comprehend what is happening.

Almost every night a TSK resupply is continuing to flow trough Amediye going East. New base areas are reinforced and with the last delivery there was a tank reinforcement.

Don't think that there is no activity because we don't report it. The operations are going full speed, it is just that most of the developments are routine and it's not worth reporting.

 

[Kartal1]

The operations are continuing and there is not so much to report. We have the routine activities and airstrikes.

An important development is the targeting of 2 vehicle PKK convoy in the vicinity of Suleymaniye. According to the initial information we got, there are 2 dead and more wounded.

It was thought that pro-PKK media was going to conduct an interview with a high ranking PKK target. In result an operation against the predetermined targets was launched.

One vehicle was hit on the spot, killing the journalists Hero Bahadin and Gulistan Tara on the spot, heavily injuring a journalist named as Rebin. According to the information we got, there are 6 more injured. The killed journalists were reporters for Sterk TV, ANF and Roj TV (pro-PKK media). There was a second vehicle which miraculously was not directly hit.

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It is important to note that brothers of Gulistan Tara were the DEM Party Batman provincial chairman M. Mesut Tekik and former deputy mayor A. Bulent Tekik. Bulent Tekik was expelled from the municipality by a statutory decree in 2017.

Meanwhile the recently killed "civilian", "journalist" Gulistan Tara (Tekik).