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Russia can not hit any target inside Turkey. It means a total war.

1- turkey won't go for a total war against russia over 3 or 4 Koral systems .
2- Nato will never join and don't be surprised if greek started a campaign to block any kind of Nato aid to turkey .

Russia usage for su-35 to hit EW systems ( Koral and other jamming systems ) inside turkish land due to the low accuracy of Kalibr missile , instead they will use Blitzkrieg air bombing + fast air assault with the ka-52 helicopter to make sure that all EW systems are hit + to not give the Turkish airforce to retaliate
 
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1- turkey won't go for a total war against russia over 3 or 4 Koral systems .
2- Nato will never join and don't be surprised if greek started a campaign to block any kind of Nato aid to turkey .

Russia usage for su-35 to hit EW systems ( Koral and other jamming systems ) inside turkish land due to the low accuracy of Kalibr missile , instead they will use Blitzkrieg air bombing + fast air assault with the ka-52 helicopter to make sure that all EW systems are hit + to not give the Turkish airforce to retaliate
Russian air force in syria is very weak tbh F-16s with E-7 support could take those Su's easily
 

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1- turkey won't go for a total war against russia over 3 or 4 Koral systems .
2- Nato will never join and don't be surprised if greek started a campaign to block any kind of Nato aid to turkey .

Russia usage for su-35 to hit EW systems ( Koral and other jamming systems ) inside turkish land due to the low accuracy of Kalibr missile , instead they will use Blitzkrieg air bombing + fast air assault with the ka-52 helicopter to make sure that all EW systems are hit + to not give the Turkish airforce to retaliate

This is a ridiculous hypotheses. Russia will not attempt anything inside Turkey. The temporary deployment of fighters is signalling to Turkey. This could be regarding the extend of the upcoming Turkish operation.
 

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Russia usage for su-35 to hit EW systems ( Koral and other jamming systems ) inside turkish land due to the low accuracy of Kalibr missile , instead they will use Blitzkrieg air bombing + fast air assault with the ka-52 helicopter to make sure that all EW systems are hit + to not give the Turkish airforce to retaliate
how will su-35 destroy koral ? using cold war era FAB bombs ?SU-35 has no targeting pods nor guided PGM munition which will require to do low altitude bombing and in this case SU-35 will be easy targets for turkish air defences
 

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1- turkey won't go for a total war against russia over 3 or 4 Koral systems .
2- Nato will never join and don't be surprised if greek started a campaign to block any kind of Nato aid to turkey .

Russia usage for su-35 to hit EW systems ( Koral and other jamming systems ) inside turkish land due to the low accuracy of Kalibr missile , instead they will use Blitzkrieg air bombing + fast air assault with the ka-52 helicopter to make sure that all EW systems are hit + to not give the Turkish airforce to retaliate

Is Turkey asleep while all this is happening?
 

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Safe to assume some form of operation has started:


Take this with a grain of salt but it is said that "America will not act to defend the Kurds against any Turkish attack in northeastern Syria".




There is some conflicting information, so maybe an offensive has not yet taken place


"Despite some social media reports everything is normal. Artillery strikes are routine. No need hype."
 
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1- turkey won't go for a total war against russia over 3 or 4 Koral systems .
2- Nato will never join and don't be surprised if greek started a campaign to block any kind of Nato aid to turkey .

Russia usage for su-35 to hit EW systems ( Koral and other jamming systems ) inside turkish land due to the low accuracy of Kalibr missile , instead they will use Blitzkrieg air bombing + fast air assault with the ka-52 helicopter to make sure that all EW systems are hit + to not give the Turkish airforce to retaliate
Russia can't even deal with bunch of terrorists and you say they could dare to hit a target inside Turkey. Turkey has more firepower on the border than Syria & Russia combined. At least 2 F16s always patrols the border all the time, no plane could dare to approach to Turkish Airspace without being detected. The mere moment Russia hits any Turkish plane or cross-border asset, straits will be closed and Syria would turn into a junkyard. Losing Turkey is worse than losing Syria for Russia, same for Turkey so They bark but never bite each other. Everyone saw what happened in 2020, and it was a controlled/small response..
 
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Safe to assume some form of operation has started:


Take this with a grain of salt but it is said that "America will not act to defend the Kurds against any Turkish attack in northeastern Syria".




There is some conflicting information, so maybe an offensive has not yet taken place


"Despite some social media reports everything is normal. Artillery strikes are routine. No need hype."
i think news related to deployement of forces and moving tanks should not be published publicly by twitter accounts since it affects turkish OPSEC
 

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Guys those Su-35s are 4 km away from the Turkish border. We can deal with them however we want no need for Koral, F-16 block 50+, etc. Buy a fucking drone from Alibaba glue some C4 under it, give this drone to a willing group. That is all it takes. IMHO dealing with them covertly is the best way. BTW they are there for SIGINT they will be listening to UAV frequencies from the Batman UAV HQ and probably will shoot one to save face.

I heard that two different operations will start at the same time.
 

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1. regarding NATO: of course, NATO will get involved if Russia ever attacks Turkey. Some countries might decide not to get involved, like Greece in Yugoslavia, but not taking action will mean the end of NATO. That will simply not happen.

2. The Americans have left Northern Syria mostly anyway. I think only in the far east of Syria there's still some US presence protecting the oil wells.
 

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True the US presence is concentrated at the east of Qamishlo. The US is guarding oil wells and Iraq-Syria passage.
 

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i think news related to deployement of forces and moving tanks should not be published publicly by twitter accounts since it affects turkish OPSEC
Most of the convoys are going at night for this purpose. While 400+ military vehicles belonging to the TSK crossed only to Idlib (not counting other areas) there was almost not any footage.
 
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russian air base in qamıshlı
 
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Turkey and Russia in talks to clear Syrian Kurdish group from Kobane
- Russia will maintain its presence in Kobane
- SNA will not deploy to Kobane
- M4 road will be under Turkish-Russian joint control
- In return, Russia wants M4 road and Ariha from Idlib

If Turkey agrees to this you can say goodbye to any Turkish influence in the region. May as well hand over the entirety of Idlib and Afrin while you are at it.

When will officals have the gut to do something without Russian or US permission? Of course they hold air superiority but you cannot seriously expect Russia or USA to shoot down a Turkish jet. Its quite pathetic really. Russia can continuously bombard villages less than 5km away from Turkish soil and arm terrorist who kill Turkish police, yet Turkey cannot even control its own borders.........

-- No point in trying to negotiate with the Russia, they only understand force.
 
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Turkey and Russia in talks to clear Syrian Kurdish group from Kobane
- Russia will maintain its presence in Kobane
- SNA will not deploy to Kobane
- M4 road will be under Turkish-Russian joint control
- In return, Russia wants M4 road and Ariha from Idlib

If Turkey agrees to this you can say goodbye to any Turkish influence in the region. May as well hand over the entirety of Idlib and Afrin while you are at it.

When will officals have the gut to do something without Russian or US permission? Of course they hold air superiority but you cannot seriously expect Russia or USA to shoot down a Turkish jet. Its quite pathetic really. Russia can continuously bombard villages less than 5km away from Turkish soil and arm terrorist who kill Turkish police, yet Turkey cannot even control its own borders.........

-- No point in trying to negotiate with the Russia, they only understand force.
current goverment is too weak to do something russians violated our air space last day no F16s went to Intecept It
 

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Be calm, russia has to have some face saving, you do not deploy corpus sized force for nothing all indicators are in favor of extensive operation, but yes it is legitimate what russians will get in return, i am slightly optimistic that they will not get anything on expense of current teritory controled by opposition, probably some more weapon deals will be announced after dust is settled, at least it is my wishfull thinking which could be proved soon in reality.
 

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