TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Anmdt]

The announcement of the launch of the Gökhan project was made on June 24, 2021 by the Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar. When did TÜBİTAK SAGE manage to develop the engine and be ready to build a prototype in 2022? The engine will have a performance similar to that of the Meteor missile, ie 4 mach.

Projects commenced long before than the announcements in most cases.
Like Göktuğ AA project officially was commenced pre-2010. Declared in following years.

 

[Fighter_35]

@Okumus said, you cant use Ramjet from surface. Why?

You can lunch from land ,but it needs booster to make the ramjet missile go to reach certain speeds around mach 1 . Ramjet produces thrust proportional with the air speed. For less speeds it produces less thrust which may cause further decrease in speed!!
Ideal speeds for ramjet is mach 2- mach 4,5. But after a certain speed around mach 1 , it can produce enough thrust to increase its speed to operational speeds of ramjet (to above mach 2)

 

[TheInsider]

TR is working on ramjet propulsion for over a decade completely on its own. Ramjet missiles are not magically popping out.

 

[Huelague]

You can lunch from land ,but it needs booster to make the ramjet missile go to reach certain speeds around mach 1 . Ramjet produces thrust proportional with the air speed. For less speeds it produces less thrust which may cause further decrease in speed!!
Ideal speeds for ramjet is mach 2- mach 4,5. But after a certain speed around mach 1 , it can produce enough thrust to increase its speed to operational speeds of ramjet (to above mach 2)

That’s what I meant.

 

[AWP]

is it technically possible to use small ramjet on kuzgun-TJ ?

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469215517714046979

Developed by Tübitak Sage and first test by TB2, 8km range and can also be used from Akinci.

 

[Yasar_TR]

is it technically possible to use small ramjet on kuzgun-TJ ?

Ramjets for 155mm artillery rounds have been envisaged. But there is a limit about the size and cost effectiveness of a ramjet engine. This also includes the amount of fuel used to achieve range.
I think your answer is in below site!
Technically it could be possible. But practically why would you need an expensive mode of thrust on a cheap easily expendable missile, when you can achieve similar results with rocket engines, especially if you have to use a booster to activate the Kuzgun’s ramjet in the first place? Ramjet is more complicated, and expensive, than a solid-fuel rocket motor. TJ version of Kuzgun can start it’s engine from the very second it is launched. You need to bring the ramjet engined Kuzgun to over 1.5 Mach at least before it’s ramjet engine kicks in.

What is the minimum size of a ramjet?

Having recently learned that 155 mm ramjet artillery shells are now a thing, I wonder how much ramjet engines can be miniaturized. Could we see ramjet tank shells? Man-portable recoilless guns? Sho...

aviation.stackexchange.com

 

[Hexciter]

Weight 140 kilograms
Length 3.3 meters
Diameter 160 millimeters
Range 25+ kilometers
Speed 4+ Mach

Milli Vision Intra-Air Missile BOZDOĞAN developed by TÜBİTAK-SAGE

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1471170187013632003

 

[Hexciter]

prof. Dr. Demir: Our SİPER High Altitude Air and Missile Defense System has approached to the SAMP-T level.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1471936300458598414

 

[Yasar_TR]

prof. Dr. Demir: Our SİPER High Altitude Air and Missile Defense System has approached the SAMP-T level.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1471936300458598414

This is great ! So there is a High Altitude Air Defence system that is operational in one form another. And that it has reached the level of sophistication of SAMP-T system. That should include ballistic missile defence too!

 

[TheInsider]

This is great ! So there is a High Altitude Air Defence system that is operational in one form another. And that it has reached the level of sophistication of SAMP-T system. That should include ballistic missile defence too!

Yeah, it is Siper Block-2 with limited anti-ballistic defense capabilities. After that, a pure anti-ballistic missile will come into play.

 

[Zafer]

This is great ! So there is a High Altitude Air Defence system that is operational in one form another. And that it has reached the level of sophistication of SAMP-T system. That should include ballistic missile defence too!

This news wouldn't have been believed by a big bunch if it were given just a few years ago.

 

[TheInsider]

This news wouldn't have been believed by a big bunch if it were given just a few years ago.

I was writing that in the forum for a long time.

 

[Hexciter]

By adding a booster to HİSAR-O+, its range has been increased by 4 times.

Other blocks will come after Siper Block-0

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1471945985429487625

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Ismail Demir stated that even production benches were embargoed, referring to the work on MUFA-like projects and advanced long range propulsion systems in rocket technologies.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

No matter what they do, they won't be able to stop us. These production benches will also be produced in Turkey.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Demir: "Development studies for the engines of the Gezgin cruise missile were initiated. This missile will likely be subject to embargoes due to its long range and capability."

 

[Rodeo]

Mr Demir: "Development studies for the engines of the Gezgin cruise missile were initiated. This missile will likely be subject to embargoes due to its long range and capability."

He is referring to MTCR?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

He is referring to MTCR?

Yes probably. He talked about the difficulties that may be experienced in the supply of subsystems at the production stage, if foreign components are procured.

 

[Rodeo]

Yes probably. He talked about the difficulties that may be experienced in the supply of subsystems at the production stage, if foreign components are procured.

So Ukranian engine won't do for us? Then we have to wait for a national engine. And that should take what, two years?